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Coldforge posted:So amazing that no one can speak his name (yeah, I get that it's Hutson. And sure, maybe he's pretty good. For a Packer.). Ahem. 
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Good point, let's not forget his 30 INTs. Rasczak posted:97 would be Bob Lilly I gotta agree with this.
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Sash! posted:Did they change the rules for the number size, because they don't look as comically small as they did on the huge guys back then. Biggest looking dudes I remember, look at tiny little Warren Sapp. And looking at their size they hold up pretty well (listed at 365 and 340)  
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Coldforge posted:A good NY Jets team? With a fullback drafted in the 1st round! 
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Sorry but Otto Graham is the best 60 and 14. 10 years 10 championship games 7 wins. If a QB did that today everyone at ESPN would be drinking his bottled piss.
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Coldforge posted:A good NY Jets team? I do love that the Jets went to back to back AFC Championships a few years back but due to a confluence of failures, everybody has understandably chosen to just collectively forget that that happened. Grittybeard posted:Biggest looking dudes I remember, look at tiny little Warren Sapp. And looking at their size they hold up pretty well (listed at 365 and 340) Ted Washington was at the center of one of my favorite plays ever, on a 4th and goal back in 2003 against the Colts. They hand the ball to Edgerrin James who's supposed to dive up the middle but Ted Washington has just squatted down in the middle of the line, engulfing the center, and Edge is forced to bounce it outside where he gets tackled. Amongst a dozen 300 lb dudes all crashing into each other, Ted Washington was an immovable boulder. HarlanHell posted:Sorry but Otto Graham is the best 60 and 14. 10 years 10 championship games 7 wins. If a QB did that today everyone at ESPN would be drinking his bottled piss. To be fair, those all came in an 8-12 team league, with 1 game playoffs.
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Kalli posted:
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Grittybeard posted:Biggest looking dudes I remember, look at tiny little Warren Sapp. And looking at their size they hold up pretty well (listed at 365 and 340) Keith Traylor in his later years with the Bears/Pats/Dolphins was just loving huge. 
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:Let Browns fans have this They'll always have: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cA00YTjztU
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commy gun posted:I think there's been some confusion on #4 so to clarify here's your winner: Brett Favre?
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Ogden is freakish big and freakish strong, and quicker then you'd expect for a man of his size. Maybe Jones could beat him, dance around him until he's so tired from hacking away that he drops; Get him off his feet somehow. But one misstep and Jones is dead.
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SlipUp posted:Ogden is freakish big and freakish strong, and quicker then you'd expect for a man of his size. Maybe Jones could beat him, dance around him until he's so tired from hacking away that he drops; Get him off his feet somehow. But one misstep and Jones is dead. Nah, none of those older guys would stand a chance against a LT like Ogden with his size, footwork, fundamentals and hand placement. Not only that, but back then the OL couldn't do poo poo. Against a modern OL that has a lot more freedom of movement and hand placement, there are a lot of questions about how pass rushers from previous eras would perform. That said, for his era holy poo poo Deacon was nasty. It's hard to believe he wouldn't be a monster even now. I'd vote Ogden the best at 75 but at the same time, I have to respect the fact that if Deacon were playing in Ogden's era, he may have done better than if Ogden was playing in Deacon's era. Then again, maybe not. I just remember seeing so many elite pass rushers thrown back, held up, and flat out pancaked by probably the best LT I've seen in my life not named Munoz. It's hard to vote against that, especially since I got to see Ogden's whole career. Before injuries caught up, he was just incredible. Fenrir fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Jun 9, 2014 |
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Chichevache posted:Brett Favre? I think he was joking.
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Rasczak posted:97 would be Bob Lilly Forgot about him, was all set to post this guy:
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Not in a world where Joe Greene played.  Also, best # 88, the last defensive tackle to win NFL MVP. 
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Industrial posted:Forgot about him, was all set to post this guy: Ok I had a brainfart and was way off base, Lilly was #74. 97 is wide open!
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HarlanHell posted:You're correct the league was less diluted so every player was the best of the best, an even more impressive feat than if they did it today. I cant believe I thought this was a real post for a half a second I need to stop reading other boards
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Wow, the new NFL Blitz looks good. Would London Fletcher be in the game for 59? He was never the greatest at any time, but his consistent, Lenny Kravitz-esque performance year in and year out is something you don't see from LBs for over 15 years.
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People seem to love London Fletcher so I'm not sure how many will agree with us, but I'm with you. Although he looked better like this: 
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OK, first off, you all agree #20 is Barry. I don't have to argue about that, because anyone who argued that would be literally and utterly brain damaged. Are there any other #20's who even come close? I'm kinda curious if there are other good #20's.
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Ronde Barber was good, just not Barry good.
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A start all the same. barry steals first like a marathon runner finishing a half hour before second place. But who's second? Ronde currently has a nod.
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How good are you looking for to get second place, or am I missing someone obvious? There might be someone better but Barber had one hell of a career. Deron Cherry was a fine player who wore 20, free safety for the Chiefs who made second team all-1980s--apparently first team all 80's for pro football reference which I didn't know did these things until now. 50 interceptions in an 11 year career. Tried to make the team as a punter as a rookie, got cut and came back and kind of owned (a lot less than Ronnie Lott) as a safety. I really just wrote this to talk about Deron Cherry, someone give me an excuse to talk about Albert Lewis now. e: vv--gently caress me that was the obvious one I was missing Or Brian Dawkins. drat, 20 is a good number for a safety. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Jun 9, 2014 |
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cucka posted:A start all the same. barry steals first like a marathon runner finishing a half hour before second place. But who's second? Ronde currently has a nod. Ed Reed? Brian Dawkins?
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:Is there a better 52 than Patrick Willis?  Actually, I don't know. Ray at his prime against Willis in his prime would be a tough argument either way.
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Fenrir posted:
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I'd say Willis had a peak that came close but just didn't last as long, but otherwise you're right. Lately Bowman is better than Willis, and Ray is a first ballot hall of famer, most likely. Maybe I'm remembering too much recent Ray Lewis though, and not enough of his early 2000s play. He was a monster back then.
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Grittybeard posted:People seem to love London Fletcher so I'm not sure how many will agree with us, but I'm with you. Man I loving loved Donnie Edwards
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Fenrir posted:
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Ken Anderson was absolutely not the best #14. Maybe the best mustache by a #14, though.  awww yeeeaahhh
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Frackie Robinson posted:Sammy Baugh is a pretty obvious pick for 33 One would imagine 
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