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I would love an Elder Scrolls or Fallout where Bethesda does all the world and environmental work and Obsidian gets to write the story and all the quests and characters.
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As someone who believed fully in The Callisto Protocol thanks to its Dead Space pedigree, let me tell you that your heroes are fallible, and it's not guaranteed greatness when developers you've heard of make something new  It was a pretty rad game regardless of its shortcomings, you can punch off their limbs and for that reason Glen Schofield's Punch Out gets a pass
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With Arkham Knight looking incredible on modified UE3 a decade on, and the FF7 remake trilogy likely staying on UE4, I can't fathom small studios taking the plunge with the hot new engines.
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Firmament really comes across as a game that would have been cancelled if it hadn't been a Kickstarter game. It feels like the development kinda petered out and they just threw what they had together and covered the seams or whatever. Since it was a successful Kickstarter, they had to deliver something, if it wasn't for that, I doubt it would have gotten released. I'm being optimistic and not holding it against Cyan and hoping the Riven remake won't have remotely the same issues.
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A lot of "beloved game developer returns to create spiritual successor" projects tend not to work out because by the time they finally get going, the developer in question has been out of practice for quite some time and their ideas have either become outdated or slavishly devoted to antiquated features from their earlier work.
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If anything it's the sequels to the Kickstarter games that fulfill the promise made by the original: Wasteland 3, Pillars 2, Original Sin 2...
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Eiyuden Chronicles is 100% the exact game that was promised, but the writer/director of the studio also died roughly a month before it came out so lose-lose.
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It helps if the Kickstarter takes inspiration from a game that wasn't good in the first place. Shovel Knights owes a big debt to Zelda II of all things.
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getting back to things that we like, I deeply appreciate that while the Serious Sam games have been adding something resembling a story, complete with NPCs mostly dressed in military uniforms, Sam himself is still running around in jeans and a graphic T-shirt, spouting gravelly one-liners like it's the 1980's.
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exquisite tea posted:A lot of "beloved game developer returns to create spiritual successor" projects tend not to work out because by the time they finally get going, the developer in question has been out of practice for quite some time and their ideas have either become outdated or slavishly devoted to antiquated features from their earlier work. Phoenix case in Point
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My favorite Kickstarter sequel was Shenmue because they remembered the best part was the absolutely terrible voice acting.
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I love New Vegas and all but I mean, I played Outer Worlds
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:getting back to things that we like, I deeply appreciate that while the Serious Sam games have been adding something resembling a story, complete with NPCs mostly dressed in military uniforms, Sam himself is still running around in jeans and a graphic T-shirt, spouting gravelly one-liners like it's the 1980's. It really is such great character design. In BFE you can find an easter egg 5 minutes into the game that changes your shoes to be the old school colors for the whole rest of your run.   Then you notice that's the only change they've made since the first game and it's kinda cool to consider! edit: even this oddball got the same treatment. And a fun fact, the Hunter from Enter the Gungeon sports a Sam belt buckle  
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CJacobs posted:It really is such great character design. In BFE you can find an easter egg 5 minutes into the game that changes your shoes to be the old school colors for the whole rest of your run. Serious Sam 3 is a prequel, so technically you just had the origin of how Sam got them.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Serious Sam 3 is a prequel, so technically you just had the origin of how Sam got them. holy poo poo 
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exquisite tea posted:A lot of "beloved game developer returns to create spiritual successor" projects tend not to work out because by the time they finally get going, the developer in question has been out of practice for quite some time and their ideas have either become outdated or slavishly devoted to antiquated features from their earlier work. also for a lot of those people they really do need some kind of directoral oversight to rein in their creative impulses to produce their best work. good developers aren't necessarily good directors and goods directors are rare in general. Push El Burrito posted:My favorite Kickstarter sequel was Shenmue because they remembered the best part was the absolutely terrible voice acting. that and the creator was absolutely convinced he had solved game design perfectly in 2000 and nothing needed to be changed.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:With Arkham Knight looking incredible on modified UE3 a decade on, and the FF7 remake trilogy likely staying on UE4, I can't fathom small studios taking the plunge with the hot new engines. Hearkens back to Cyan apparently getting really, really excited by a real time 3D engine and buying the entire thing outright. And then being saddled with all of its jank and limitations throughout the making of realMyst, URU, and Myst V... I guess in fairness back in 2000~ it's not like there were a ton of engines lying around that offered high graphical fidelity and strong multiplayer support. I think maybe UE5 was supposed to be a thrill because of it having better innate VR support? I forget what exactly their reasoning was. John Murdoch has a new favorite as of 19:46 on Apr 23, 2024 |
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Inspector Gesicht posted:With Arkham Knight looking incredible on modified UE3 a decade on, and the FF7 remake trilogy likely staying on UE4, I can't fathom small studios taking the plunge with the hot new engines. At least with UE5 there’s some incentive to switch because the workflow’s easy to port over, and some of their new graphics tech is wild, but that’s the kind of decision you make multiple years before your game comes out.
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Dewgy posted:At least with UE5 there’s some incentive to switch because the workflow’s easy to port over, and some of their new graphics tech is wild, but that’s the kind of decision you make multiple years before your game comes out. And that. They were already on the UE train with Myst VR and Obduction so it was even less of a jump.
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Back 4 Blood was another original creators one. It was fun for a run but then there was no reason to ever go back, and no content came out.
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pentyne posted:also for a lot of those people they really do need some kind of directoral oversight to rein in their creative impulses to produce their best work. good developers aren't necessarily good directors and goods directors are rare in general. I adore most of Kojima’s works, but you just can’t leave that man alone for more than 30 seconds before he tries to fly off the rails again.
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Aphrodite posted:Back 4 Blood was another original creators one. It was fun for a run but then there was no reason to ever go back, and no content came out. according to the crowbcat video on this game, only three people from turtle rock actually worked on it, lol
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moosecow333 posted:I adore most of Kojima’s works, but you just can’t leave that man alone for more than 30 seconds before he tries to fly off the rails again.
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Aphrodite posted:Back 4 Blood was another original creators one. It was fun for a run but then there was no reason to ever go back, and no content came out. It was pretty ok, but I actually found it way too hard for what it really should've been L4D was about the perfect level of difficulty in that you could play with people that don't really play games overall and have a great time. Getting my Dad through B4B, despite him being a huge fan of the L4D series and us playing that about a million times, was pretty challenging despite loving playing games together edit: admittedly this could be a skill issue Weird Pumpkin has a new favorite as of 00:06 on Apr 24, 2024 |
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Aphrodite posted:Back 4 Blood was another original creators one. It was fun for a run but then there was no reason to ever go back, and no content came out. Other than the three DLC packs you mean?
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Meowywitch posted:according to the crowbcat video on this game, only three people from turtle rock actually worked on it, lol There were at least nine out-source studios used on that game.
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The original Left 4 Dead had the perfect amount of jank to make it one of my favorite games ever. The sequel and B4B just couldn't live up to that.
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Weird Pumpkin posted:It was pretty ok, but I actually found it way too hard for what it really should've been Nah I remember the overall level of difficulty being a point of contention at launch. May or may not have been interrelated with the questionable card system that people didn't much care for either.
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Push El Burrito posted:The original Left 4 Dead had the perfect amount of jank to make it one of my favorite games ever. The sequel and B4B just couldn't live up to that. L4D was perfect The sequel just wasn't the same imo
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Inspector Gesicht posted:I would sacrifice god know's how many jelly babies if the Arkane who made Prey and Dishonored (and not the Arkane who made Deathloop, Youngblood, and Redfall) got a shot at Fallout. Why was deathloop in the second group? I dont know that it belongs in the first one but it felt like it had a sense of style and purpose at least compared to redfall etc.
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verbal enema posted:L4D was perfect the sequel does have ellis though,
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John Murdoch posted:Also all the tech demo/KS update stuff made it sound like they were super duper excited to be messing around with UE5, so I get a "yay we get to play with a new toy, oops it's not fun anymore" vibe from it. That seems to happen a lot with the Kickstarter darlings, where the devs have clearly been out of the industry for years and become excited over new toys to them that have already worn out their welcome with everyone else.
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I will say that as much as I love L4D2 the first game is a pretty perfect game. It just WORKED. I never heard a single bad thing about it from anyone, everyone I introduced it to, gamer or not, loved it and it still holds up. Not going to be able to match that.
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Meowywitch posted:according to the crowbcat video on this game, only three people from turtle rock actually worked on it, lol Also all the best parts of L4D were innovated by Valve staff, not Turtlecat's.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:If anything it's the sequels to the Kickstarter games that fulfill the promise made by the original: Wasteland 3, Pillars 2, Original Sin 2... Wasteland 2 was kinda mediocre due to adhering too hard to the original. They learned from that though and were able to make Wasteland 3.
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Meowywitch posted:the sequel does have ellis though, I couldn't give a poo poo about any of the people in l4d2
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verbal enema posted:I couldn't give a poo poo about any of the people in l4d2 How dare you, Coach was the great
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verbal enema posted:I couldn't give a poo poo about any of the people in l4d2 absolutely terrible taste, 50% of that cast was perfect
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I still say "grabbin pills" when I go get a bottle of aspirin or something. Also Google knows the best characters in the game. 
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