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Reported rapes per 100,000 people in India in 2012: 2.0 Same statistic for the US: 28.6 Most Indians male and female despise rape and hate the reputation recent high profile cases have given their country, but I wonder if it might be better if America should take a look at itself before pointing fingers at all the brown countries?
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha you are very stupid Please elaborate, are you saying rapes in America are not something to be concerned about? Even if hypothetically ten times more rapes in India go unreported, the US is still higher. Kinda puts me off wanting to ever visit such a rapey country! gently caress that I'd rather go to India.
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Jun 10, 2014 10:09
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brick cow posted:Then just go. I might, its got a great culture, wonderful food and scenery, friendly people and ten times less likely to get raped than the US.
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Jun 10, 2014 10:12
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Can an American goon please explain why exactly reported rapes are so high in the US compared to India? Is it the culture or something? Are Indian men just more respectful to women in general? Tia.
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Jun 10, 2014 10:24
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GlennFinito posted:I'll spring your trap and propose that India has a very narrow definition of rape. But its as I said before even if 9/10 rapes in India are unreported Ametica has more. And that's assuming all rapes in the US are actually reported. I wonder if you have something to back this up other than your own personal opinion?
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Jun 10, 2014 10:35
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:I don't think those Indian statistics are very accurate Well then, I guess they're not simply because you said so.
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Jun 10, 2014 10:39
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Im actually not trolling I just have a hard time getting my head around why American rape statistics are irrelevant when they're way worse than the country youre mocking for it. And yeah i get the whole argument that many are unreported... but more than ten times more are unreported? I have a hard time believing that based on anything more than just 'cos I said so'. Rape is bad wherever it happens I just think the US needs to focus on getting its own poo poo straight first. Thanks for listening, take care of yourself... and each other.
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Jun 10, 2014 10:47
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Cucking Mama posted:I have to go to school in england and I've been depressed about it for like a week Please be sure to share your usual views about our fine country with everyone you meet I guarantee you won't get your head kicked in, we love it when Americans do that.
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Jun 10, 2014 11:11
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brick cow posted:Oh gently caress, you're being pleasant and agreeable. I hate that. I'll serious post. However I do wonder if, for example, similar punishments might be carried out in the US by some gangs? India has had the spotlight on it lately because of certain undeniably horrific cases and ever since its made for easy news to just publicise it whenever it happens but I'm pretty sure gang rapes happen everywhere. The statistic of reported rapes in the US is alarming and, similarly to India, rape and rapists are openly despised. Case studies alone will not convince me because you dont have to look far to see horrific examples in the US or anywhere else either. I like you too and I'm down for a non rapey kiss and a cuddle if you are.
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Jun 10, 2014 11:19
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brick cow posted:Yes. When I was in college the only Indians in town owned a gas station/restaurant and it smelled like poo poo all the time but the food was fantastic. At the risk of playing the devils avocado if it were culturally acceptable everywhere in India to commit rapes wouldn't the statistic be higher than it is in America and not ten times less? Is it not conceivable that the majority of Indians are actually opposed to rape and that this is why the figure is so low? Instead it would imply that it is actually more culturally acceptable in America to do it? Whether thats college jocks who date rape, or gangs who punish girls for associating with different gangs, is it not possible that there are more 'cultures' in America that tolerate it hence the undeniably higher rates of sexual assault?
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Jun 10, 2014 12:56
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G.I. Jaw posted:Well India, we tried to let you live life on your own and look what happened. You're raping women every 21 minutes and making GBS threads in the corpse river bath house. Time to give you back to Britain. As opposed to the US where a rape happens every 6 minutes, but no that's different and it doesn't count cos you know, we're not a rape culture of something. Here's some advice for those in denial of this shocking fact, before wanting to police the world might be best to police your own back yard first.
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Jun 10, 2014 13:47
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:Also the women I know who went to metropolitan India on a business trip tried to go out without a male escort and got harassed to the point where they had to go back to the hotel within a block or so. This has never happened to me in the United States you inbred retard Well poo poo a bad thing happened to a person that you know so it must happen to everyone and also cos its never happened to you in the US it must never happen there ever. I didn't realise you knew everyone in the world and are in a position to deny actual hard data must be kinda cool p.s. Im not inbred but im arguing on the internet so likely retarded.
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Jun 10, 2014 13:53
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Pochoclo posted:I can almost smell the curry and rape coming from your post (I'm cool with curry though, it's delicious). Isn't it though? I cooked a Jalfrezi from scratch last week for my girlfriend and it was literally the dogs bollocks.
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Jun 10, 2014 13:58
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GlennFinito posted:I am waiting for you to handwave my posts so you can continue your point about how rape in India doesn't matter in a thread about rape in India because of your extremely poorly crafted American Exceptionalism trap. Hi how's it going sorry I missed your posts maybe if you were less of a non avatar having scrub I might have taken more note. Ok so re: quality of life, yes its a developing nation steeped in very male dominated tradition its a bit poo poo. Also the child labour problem there is loving disgusting. Yet the subject here is rape and its not a trap as such more a pot kettle black type observation whereby the pot is statistically ten times blacker. re: the danish woman once again thats a case study and im pretty sure that if i were to do a google search now which i wont cos im about to tuck into a delicious cheese and onion pasty i could find examples of non American tourists also raped in America of various ages and nationalities?
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Jun 10, 2014 14:05
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butplug accident posted:it's very gross and problematic how women aren't given a voice through second hand testimony from some nobody online I know right? But dont try and dispute it with actual evidence because doing so makes you an inbred retard/typical male bigot. And who said that the art of debate isn't dead.
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Jun 10, 2014 14:11
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octobernight posted:Didn't some underage girl get drunk, got assaulted by a bunch of high school jockies, and then the town police refused to prosecute? Also, when she tried to report it, she got harassed and her families get threats from the entire community? I swear I've heard this story about some podunk town in America several times this past year. Pretty much this. For every hosed up community in India that tries to sweep it under the carpet there's one in the good old tolerant US of A that has done likewise. Seriously though, India's pretty chill and there's a lot of really nice people that live there. Oh and incidentally dont forget how people literally took to the streets after a lot of these cases has that happened yet in the US? It kind of implies to me that no, in general India is not a culture that tolerates rape. They are human beings same as any of us and the majority of them care about their fellow men or women.
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Jun 10, 2014 16:48
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:You're right, it was wrong of me to suggest that a British man like gypsum fanatic may feel safer in India than a woman. It was pretty sexist of me. Privilege- checked To be fair the poo poo that pours out of your mouth is probably about the best rape deterrant going all you gotta do is give it the old man splaining stuff? And my butt is pretty sweet. Challenge accepted.
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Jun 10, 2014 17:09
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:You're right, feminism kind of sucks!! India isn't so bad Ladies and gentleman, it's a 'rape off'. We'll need some rules and a scoring system e.g. do gang rapes count more? Am I allowed to dress extra slutty?
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Jun 10, 2014 17:13
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:Then don't read the thread!! Hey youre the one that challenged me here to a rapeathon dont try and pawn it off on someone else just cos I called your bluff.
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Jun 10, 2014 17:30
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Incidentally guys, gently caress the US and India, when I was looking up actual rape statistics you know where had everywhere beat? Yep. You guessed it, Belgium.
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Jun 10, 2014 17:49
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:sexual abuse that happens in foreign countries is of no concern because Amerikkka exists Im just not a fan of hyporcrisy is all. 'Haha your country sucks because it does this thing' 'Heres some proof that your country does it ten times more often' 'gently caress you you leave my country out of this'
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Jun 10, 2014 18:26
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DeusExMachinima posted:Q.U.I.L.T.B.A.G. All of the above and also none at the same time, and thanks for asking.
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Jun 10, 2014 18:33
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DeusExMachinima posted:I'm sorry to hear about your headmates in that case Please stop using words and acronyms that I have to google its been a long day tia (i know that one).
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Jun 10, 2014 18:43
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Mustang posted:No it doesn't. Please show me examples where women regularly get gang raped on buses and strung up from trees. By the way since you like statistics so much, the number of rapes in the US per 100,000 is just about the same as Western Europe and the developed world, and better than some. Belgium's is higher at 30 and Sweden's is even higher at 60 per 100,000. Having the most functional institutions and a stronger respect for the rule of law it's no mystery that rapes are reported more often in developed countries. I absolutely bum-love your logic. Seriously. "Actually, the countries with the less rapes are the countries with the more rapes and vice versa and you can tell which has more by reversing all statistics on their head and taking the opposite to be true" There are no words for this level of genius.
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Jun 10, 2014 20:08
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old dog child posted:yeah okay fair enough but you're caring about stuff on somethingawful what's wrong with you Maybe I'm just one of those SJP's or whatever people are banging on about. 
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Jun 10, 2014 20:11
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old dog child posted:yeah okay fair enough but you're caring about stuff on somethingawful what's wrong with you No but I don't agree with the logic that says that we should read the exact opposite of rape statistics that more = less and vice versa.
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Jun 10, 2014 20:12
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old dog child posted:what, the logic that a country with 1.2 billion people that is incredibly corrupt, elects criminals to the legislative branch, openly oppresses women and minorities as a standard part of the majority culture, and is also too inept to provide basic services to the population is likely to have a higher number of unreported rapes than a developed, first world country? yeah that awful logic doesn't make sense. lmbo It's very likely to have a higher level of unreported rapes than the US for the reasons that you're saying this is true. But to have more than ten times higher without any actual evidence to support this mind boggling difference other than just 'because'? No thanks.
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Jun 10, 2014 20:20
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old dog child posted:if you are, this is a really weird place to make your stand dude. you're arguing against people who want to improve the welfare of oppressed indians but w/e floats your boat i guess Nope rape is a bad thing. A really bad thing. But to single out a country and laugh at it and say everyone there is a rapist when your own country has it going on more, will it's not so much oppression as blind ignorance and I guess that's the stand I'm taking. old dog child posted:uhh india's population and density is a lot higher than those other countries so it's very likely already a much higher number just by statistics homie OK but I'm talking about the level of rape and not the actual number of people raped so population is pretty much irrelevant.
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Jun 10, 2014 20:23
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I know right? It would be best if we disregarded all evidence entirely if it disagrees with our view that foreigners are bad people and that we are superior to them. By the way if you don't agree and try to be all 'facty' then you are some kind of bleeding heart SJW.
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Jun 10, 2014 20:31
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Moridin920 posted:It'd be best if you examined the sources of data for the evidence so you can get a clear picture. They would have taught you that in statistics class had you ever taken it. Cool, so provide me with some counter evidence that shows that reported cases of rape in the US and some other developed nations are not at least ten times higher than in India. Cheers.
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Jun 10, 2014 20:33
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I don't know, just any evidence. Just any one bit of information that is not a single incident or a bit of hearsay. I'm truly open to the idea that I'm wrong but I really don't care for personal opinion alone when it comes to whether or not I should hate foreigners.
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Jun 10, 2014 20:38
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Moridin920 posted:It's kind of just a rapey world, I'm trying to find estimates based on something other than just guessing and it seems like 70-90% of rapes don't get reported in the UK, 65-75% of rapes don't get reported in the USA, and 90%+ of rapes don't get reported in India. Cool OK well this is something, thanks. So if approximately 70% of rapes don't get reported in the US and approximately 90% of rapes don't get reported in India, taking into account that the reported figures are 28.6 per capita (US) and 2.0 per capita (India)... now I'm no mathemagician as you say and it took me a little while but this works out for actual rapes at 95.3 for the US and 20.0 for India. Got anything else that might help convince me to hate brown people?
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Jun 10, 2014 20:47
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Moridin920 posted:well you have to take into account that most of that is just guessing pretty much anyway because there's no real way to know how many rapes go unreported Ah sorry I didn't realise now that we were just guessing stuff to prove our point. Or that we were distinguishing between bad rapes and the good kind and that in America it's only ever the good kind. My bad oops.
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Jun 10, 2014 20:53
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old dog child posted:well that's what you're doing too so uh lol Yeah gently caress the data that came from the United Nations right? What do they know compared to my random guesswork.
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Jun 10, 2014 20:56
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Moridin920 posted:no, marital rape isn't a thing over there. Maybe because it's exactly that. Arguments. Arguments to say that cases of rape and sexual abuse are more widespread in one country than another in the face of actual evidence that shows that the opposite is true. Granted, there is likely a big difference between 'actual' and 'reported' and I haven't once disputed that however the only actual evidence coming back at me shows that it still puts the US at around 5 times higher than the country being mocked. Anything else is just words and random examples and as I said before horrible things happen everywhere and do you seriously want me to find and post some brutal and horrific reports of gangrape or rape/murders from the US or other developed nations? I'm pretty sure there's a lot and I'll be here all night but happy to oblige otherwise.
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Jun 10, 2014 21:00
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old dog child posted:actually, yeah do it. get as many as you can. then we can compare notes after. e: i'm genuinely curious but i am too lazy to do this myself this one took like two seconds to find... http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...ith-glenn-beck/ seriously, unimaginable poo poo happens everywhere but one case alone is proof of nothing, i can keep going? google's pretty big.
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Jun 10, 2014 21:05
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old dog child posted:get more, don't disappoint. i barely have a half chub from that one. I'm not a performing pony so knock yourself out if you're seriously interested it's not difficult to find more, personally it turns my stomach to keep reading them same as some of the recent highly publicised cases in India do so I'd rather not. whoflungpoop posted:(please do not rape them) I probably wouldn't if they are American because they would be about a billion times more likely to report it apparently based on no evidence whatsoever.
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Jun 10, 2014 21:10
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old dog child posted:then how am i supposed to argue with you if you're not backing up your claim???? (also it was from 2007 dude lol) OK this one's interesting... http://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/05/justice/texas-rape-sentence/index.html?iref=allsearch quote:She could have sentenced him to 20 years in prison after he admitted to raping a 14-year-old girl in her high school. But how could it when Americans always report rapes based on gossip/your gut feelings/sixth senses etc.?
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Jun 10, 2014 21:17
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:That's a bad example, America flipped the gently caress out when that happened And India flipped the gently caress out too.  Wait why the gently caress are there Indian men there who don't like rape? This is blowing my narrow little mind...
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myshl0ng posted:A country that says "rapes happen accidentally" and where marital rape is legal even after you drug a girl and marry her has less rapes than a 1st world country. Sorry what, the whole country said this did they? Did Indian parliament draw up a big statement and get literally every man woman and child to sign it? Nope. Because most Indians, same as most human beings in the world actually despise rapists.
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