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Levantine
Feb 14, 2005

GUNDAM!!!

iastudent posted:

I'm doing my nightly set of missions for those interested. PSN: KitchenGun

Sorry I haven't accepted your invite. I've been catching up with my wife after a week out of town.

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Holybat
Dec 22, 2006

I made this while you were asleep.

Aphrodite posted:

So then infinite access to only 8 missions isn't really worth much.

How's the mission length compared with older Ace Combat games?

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Oh right, my PSN ID is Stalinstache

I don't have a mic but I also won't blow the loving cockpit up on Moby Dick when there are planes still about.

tweet my meat
Oct 2, 2013

yospos
I'm gonna start up a 4 person private room. sgtCrunch123 if you want in

tweet my meat
Oct 2, 2013

yospos
Always fun to get disconnected right in the middle of a Moby round.

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Sergeant_Crunch posted:

Always fun to get disconnected right in the middle of a Moby round.

Yup. Goddamnit. We were doing pretty good, too.

Weissritter
Jun 14, 2012

Holybat posted:

How's the mission length compared with older Ace Combat games?

First 2 are introductory, later 3 gets progressively longer - mission 5 clocks in at about 20 minutes from youtube videos (since I did not take down the time I took myself).

OxMan
May 13, 2006

COME SEE
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Sergeant_Crunch posted:

Always fun to get disconnected right in the middle of a Moby round.

Oh hey new thread! I honestly don't even mind disconnecting in this game, your sortie fuel doesn't get used up but they still count for at least sortie challenges. I want to say something about scoring tips being added to the OP from good people (not me)

Also kitchen our earlier constant S ranks were awesome, I honestly prefer cleaning up ground units after fighters strike through, it saves time and guarantees the S rank, my bottom rank be damned. I was a little miffed in that last one where the other team left 2 AA guns at their spawn that cost us 20 seconds and the S.

Weissritter
Jun 14, 2012

OxMan posted:

Oh hey new thread! I honestly don't even mind disconnecting in this game, your sortie fuel doesn't get used up but they still count for at least sortie challenges. I want to say something about scoring tips being added to the OP from good people (not me)

Also kitchen our earlier constant S ranks were awesome, I honestly prefer cleaning up ground units after fighters strike through, it saves time and guarantees the S rank, my bottom rank be damned. I was a little miffed in that last one where the other team left 2 AA guns at their spawn that cost us 20 seconds and the S.

I am doing the opposite, haha. After doing very good rounds with the super hornet, now I am trying to get as many air kills as possible with the T-50 (mainly because of how good it looks). Getting better slowly, but not yet getting the same amount of points as before.

iastudent
Apr 22, 2008

I've been doing most of my sorties lately in the F-16 Desert Rock. It's not on good on paper as say the F/A-18 or later multiroles but it starts out with GPBs. I've gotten quite a few MVPs already going after high-value ground targets post-emergency.

I also have a F-14A I keep on hand for Moby Dick missions. I need to comb the old thread for the one guy that cleaned house on those with an attacker.

Weissritter
Jun 14, 2012

iastudent posted:

I've been doing most of my sorties lately in the F-16 Desert Rock. It's not on good on paper as say the F/A-18 or later multiroles but it starts out with GPBs. I've gotten quite a few MVPs already going after high-value ground targets post-emergency.

I also have a F-14A I keep on hand for Moby Dick missions. I need to comb the old thread for the one guy that cleaned house on those with an attacker.

Use the GPB on the engines for massive points since they are clustered together.

ninjahedgehog
Feb 17, 2011

It's time to kick the tires and light the fires, Big Bird.


I think people are starting to wise up to the fact that ground-pounding is the way to go. So much so, in fact, that I've been rolling in my F-15C nearly exclusively for the past few days and doing mostly air-to-air, and I get MVP a decent percentage of the time. Less competition for kills, more points per target, and just straight-up more fun. Especially chasing down Typhoons in Tokyo. :getin:

Also, I don't know if anyone's mentioned it here yet, but a few of the emergency missions have SR-71s or Tu-95s that spawn at 40,000 feet or so that aren't marked TGT, so people don't realize they exist. They're also completely undefended and worth a poo poo-ton of points.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
I hope Scinfaxi is one of those emergencies that spawns those "hidden" planes because I'd rather go hunt one of those than try and milk out ~1,500 points from a tough as poo poo ground target while flying a fighter.

gyger
Feb 19, 2010

Pornographic Memory posted:

I hope Scinfaxi is one of those emergencies that spawns those "hidden" planes because I'd rather go hunt one of those than try and milk out ~1,500 points from a tough as poo poo ground target while flying a fighter.

We (Attackers) still need someone to deal with the UAVs (and the second wave).

iastudent
Apr 22, 2008

Good flying with you this morning, KingTotoro. To answer your question from earlier, the Moby Dick missions pop up randomly after completing a sortie.

And I hit captain this morning. :patriot:

Crono S. Magnum
Feb 29, 2008
Oh man, I kept hearing about the Ace Combat series for years and I know I love some of its music but I feel I have to ask if this is an okay game for me to jump in on.

I don't have the money for the Single player pack, but I still kind of want to try this out. Is it more of a simulator or is it arcadey?

Basically can I play this as my first Ace Combat and have fun with it?

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010



The game is more or less built from the ground up to give old-school AC fans nostalgia boners by incorporating the old series with the real world, and it's pretty successful at it. That being said, it's still a good game on its own merits, it's fun and you can do everything for free if you don't mind gimping yourself in-game to do it.

It's definitely an arcade game, down to charging 75 cents per play if you buy fuel, and you can play it in short bursts and get by with supplied fuel just fine. If it's your first AC game, you'll be fine, you'll just miss out on the references the game loves to drop on you.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
You can't get much arcadier than Ace Combat on the arcade-realism scale. I'd say jump in because you'll have enough free fuel thrown at you to play for a while before spending any money, and if you like this one you'll like pretty much any Ace Combat that isn't Assault Horizon since they all have identical controls and gameplay during missions.

gyger
Feb 19, 2010

Pornographic Memory posted:

You can't get much arcadier than Ace Combat on the arcade-realism scale. I'd say jump in because you'll have enough free fuel thrown at you to play for a while before spending any money, and if you like this one you'll like pretty much any Ace Combat that isn't Assault Horizon since they all have identical controls and gameplay during missions.

The only way it could get more arcadey if it was in an arcade cabinet, and it is: http://acecombat.wikia.com/wiki/Mach_Storm

Crono S. Magnum
Feb 29, 2008

S-Alpha posted:

The game is more or less built from the ground up to give old-school AC fans nostalgia boners by incorporating the old series with the real world, and it's pretty successful at it. That being said, it's still a good game on its own merits, it's fun and you can do everything for free if you don't mind gimping yourself in-game to do it.

It's definitely an arcade game, down to charging 75 cents per play if you buy fuel, and you can play it in short bursts and get by with supplied fuel just fine. If it's your first AC game, you'll be fine, you'll just miss out on the references the game loves to drop on you.

Alright, I've got it downloading then.

Kind of funny. I was just looking through my collection and realized I have both Ace Combat 4 and 5 sitting here. Looking back at it I picked them up on the trip up to Connecticut for my grandfather's funeral but never played them.

I suppose I'll have to dig up my PS2 and see about doing that sometime soon.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

Crono S. Magnum posted:

Alright, I've got it downloading then.

Kind of funny. I was just looking through my collection and realized I have both Ace Combat 4 and 5 sitting here. Looking back at it I picked them up on the trip up to Connecticut for my grandfather's funeral but never played them.

I suppose I'll have to dig up my PS2 and see about doing that sometime soon.

You should do that. You should really really do that. At least play 5.

Tequila
Apr 16, 2002
DRIVE BY RANDOM TITLING! YOU MAY BE NEXT!
PSN ID: satequila

Does completing a special challenge automatically give you the plane or does it only give you a box with a chance at getting one?

How high can you level up a plane and do the starting ones remain competitive with levels or are you just better off getting rid of them for newer ones as they come along?

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
Got the A-10 today. It's pretty beastly, and faster than I expected (probably helps that I stacked it with speed/acceleration boosting parts). I'm really glad they at least gave the 30mm gatling gun it's own sound that's different from other guns, I'm loving that thing. I even used it to get a gun kill on a MiG-29 :getin:

The credit crunch is starting to get painful - I want to buy the F/A-18F too, but after three matches in the A-10 I've already got the Strike Eagle and its accompanying part halfway researched, and I want to rush to the Rafale as fast as possible.

Levantine
Feb 14, 2005

GUNDAM!!!

Pornographic Memory posted:

Got the A-10 today. It's pretty beastly, and faster than I expected (probably helps that I stacked it with speed/acceleration boosting parts). I'm really glad they at least gave the 30mm gatling gun it's own sound that's different from other guns, I'm loving that thing. I even used it to get a gun kill on a MiG-29 :getin:

The credit crunch is starting to get painful - I want to buy the F/A-18F too, but after three matches in the A-10 I've already got the Strike Eagle and its accompanying part halfway researched, and I want to rush to the Rafale as fast as possible.

Luckily the upgrade cost for the A-10 drops to like 10% of the purchase price and scales from there. The gateway costs to purchase planes gets crazy, fast.

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
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Crono S. Magnum posted:

Alright, I've got it downloading then.

Kind of funny. I was just looking through my collection and realized I have both Ace Combat 4 and 5 sitting here. Looking back at it I picked them up on the trip up to Connecticut for my grandfather's funeral but never played them.

I suppose I'll have to dig up my PS2 and see about doing that sometime soon.

Ace Combat 04 will be a spectacular introduction to the series, and by the time you finish 5, you'll be pacing in front of the mailbox waiting for Zero to arrive. You're in for quite a ride, and I'm a little jealous that I can't play them all again for the first time.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

Ace Combat 04 will be a spectacular introduction to the series, and by the time you finish 5, you'll be pacing in front of the mailbox waiting for Zero to arrive. You're in for quite a ride, and I'm a little jealous that I can't play them all again for the first time.

I still wish I could play 4 and 0 as 5 is the only from the PS2 series I've played. But I'd have to buy a PS2 and everything to do so.

Cooked Auto fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Jun 11, 2014

Crono S. Magnum
Feb 29, 2008

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

Ace Combat 04 will be a spectacular introduction to the series, and by the time you finish 5, you'll be pacing in front of the mailbox waiting for Zero to arrive. You're in for quite a ride, and I'm a little jealous that I can't play them all again for the first time.

Well drat. That sounds kinda promising!

I just tried out Infinity and it's pretty wild! I couldn't really handle Expert controls so I'm sticking with Standard for now. Might do better with them later if I play 4 and 5.

My only real complaint is that the game's netcode seems kind of shoddy. I got only one actual hit out of about 20+ tries with Quick Match, the rest either telling me a room was full or, most often, just failing with no error stated.

Good lord, though. When you do get into a match it's pretty great! I really suck at PVP games so having this sort of Competitive Co-Op is perfect for me!

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Crono S. Magnum posted:

I got only one actual hit out of about 20+ tries with Quick Match, the rest either telling me a room was full or, most often, just failing with no error stated.
Well, there won't be any of that crap in the PS2 games. Just put the disk in and load. As many times a day as you want.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
Just use room search, quick match blows and also this way you can cherry pick lower ranked rooms.

Levantine
Feb 14, 2005

GUNDAM!!!

Crono S. Magnum posted:

Well drat. That sounds kinda promising!

I just tried out Infinity and it's pretty wild! I couldn't really handle Expert controls so I'm sticking with Standard for now. Might do better with them later if I play 4 and 5.

My only real complaint is that the game's netcode seems kind of shoddy. I got only one actual hit out of about 20+ tries with Quick Match, the rest either telling me a room was full or, most often, just failing with no error stated.

Good lord, though. When you do get into a match it's pretty great! I really suck at PVP games so having this sort of Competitive Co-Op is perfect for me!

I find it's best to create a room and just wait for it to fill. Then you're not at the mercy of anyone else. It may take a bit longer from creation to launch but you can play that room as much as you want without a host dropping or being disconnected from the host or whatever.

ninjahedgehog
Feb 17, 2011

It's time to kick the tires and light the fires, Big Bird.


Pornographic Memory posted:

Just use room search, quick match blows and also this way you can cherry pick lower ranked rooms.

How do you find the room's ranking?

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

ninjahedgehog posted:

How do you find the room's ranking?

It's the matching rate, toward the upper right.

Skwerl
Sep 3, 2006
damn kids...
Early stage of a piece I am working on... I shall name it. stupidnewbies.jpg

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice

Crono S. Magnum posted:

Well drat. That sounds kinda promising!

I just tried out Infinity and it's pretty wild! I couldn't really handle Expert controls so I'm sticking with Standard for now. Might do better with them later if I play 4 and 5.

My only real complaint is that the game's netcode seems kind of shoddy. I got only one actual hit out of about 20+ tries with Quick Match, the rest either telling me a room was full or, most often, just failing with no error stated.

Good lord, though. When you do get into a match it's pretty great! I really suck at PVP games so having this sort of Competitive Co-Op is perfect for me!

There's no shame in using Standard controls. I find Standard to be quite a bit easier if I'm flying an Attacker ("easier" meaning that I fly into buildings/terrain/enemies only half the time compared to seven-eighths of the time), but I switch it back if I'm going to be dogfighting.

If you find that Infinity and the PS2 games have given you an Ace Combat itch that you absolutely need scratched and you want something you've never tried before, the PSP games (Ace Combat X and Ace Combat: Joint Assault/Ace Combat X2) and the more recent 3DS game (Ace Combat: Assault Horizon Legacy) are very enjoyable. Keep in mind, though, that to unlock everything in the second PSP title, it is necessary to play with someone else on a couple "Joint Assault" missions, online or ad hoc. I doubt there are many players online these days, so just be aware that you'll probably need a savegame editor or a friend with the game and a PSP to unlock some stuff.

Skwerl posted:

Early stage of a piece I am working on... I shall name it. stupidnewbies.jpg



Do you always own so hard, or do you have to like try at it

Levantine
Feb 14, 2005

GUNDAM!!!

Skwerl posted:

Early stage of a piece I am working on... I shall name it. stupidnewbies.jpg



Goddamn you marvelous bastard. Another masterpiece in the making.

Skwerl
Sep 3, 2006
damn kids...

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

Do you always own so hard, or do you have to like try at it
It involves a lot of crying, trust me :smithicide:

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice

Skwerl posted:

It involves a lot of crying, trust me :smithicide:

Those tears fuel masterpieces, buddy.

Do you do commission work? A friend of mine would like something drawn up. You don't have PM's, so drop me a line at gotta.stay.fai@gmail.com if you're interested.

Also, guys and gals I played with earlier, I'm so sorry I'm horrible with the Harrier :smith:

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
Very timely because I just had the second Moby Dick today get it's cockpit popped with over a minute still on the clock. At least I already got my S rank for fuel challenge done today.

klapman
Aug 27, 2012

this char is good
Speaking as someone who's never played an Ace Combat game before, I find that I can be pretty helpful in the co-op stuff after only a couple of Campaign missions. Game is really fun so far. PSN: Nargotah

e: Sucks that I already ran out of fuel, but oh well. Looks like i'll be getting more in three hours, so maybe i'll play with you all then.

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Kadorhal
Jun 3, 2013

Look, just sign the stupid petition. I've got stuff to do.
I made a bit more fleshed-out version of the aircraft tree image.


It's in no way meant to be in the exact layout as the actual thing, I compressed it as much as I could to keep from breaking any tables. Lines still point where they should though, at least.

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