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Sramaker
Oct 31, 2012

by Cowcaster
Linda and Dan. This is what feel right, and now the game reminded me i lost one of my grandma at a young age too.

Where did you get this game, i'm interested in getting it.

Sramaker fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Jul 11, 2014

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ThatPazuzu
Sep 8, 2011

I'm so depressed, I can't even blink.

Sramaker posted:


Where did you get this game, i'm interested in getting it.

It's available on Steam!

Edit: oh, a brief note: I've seen some drawbacks to Story mode that I hadn't before. Like you can't use your ability to cause lights to flicker, which will move people to that light.

Not being able to do that means it's harder to get decent screenshots. :(

ThatPazuzu fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Jul 11, 2014

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

Dan and Tommy. Not for any particular reason except Dan and Linda should get divorced. Also poo poo Tommy is kinda cute in a pilot's helmet.

Pine Bamboo Plum
Nov 5, 2009
Whoops, missed out on voting. I would've only picked Linda anyway. When I was first reading Dan's section, I was going to vote for him no matter what, but then Linda's choice happened - it's emotionally manipulative, but it works. Tommy's choice seems almost inappropriate for this part, even though I get that he's 5 years old. It's just off-putting somehow.

This is a great LP. I almost never comment on LPs even though I've been lurking since before there was a dedicated LP section, but I've really enjoyed how you've explored this game. ThatPazuzu, will you be doing more playthroughs after this one is done?

ThatPazuzu
Sep 8, 2011

I'm so depressed, I can't even blink.

Pine Bamboo Plum posted:

This is a great LP. I almost never comment on LPs even though I've been lurking since before there was a dedicated LP section, but I've really enjoyed how you've explored this game. ThatPazuzu, will you be doing more playthroughs after this one is done?

Aww, thank you! But, no, I don't think I'll be showing off alternate playthroughs. Just like ~life~, we'll have to stick to decisions and live with it.

Also, LPing a game is the quickest way to get really tired of it. :shobon:

ThatPazuzu
Sep 8, 2011

I'm so depressed, I can't even blink.


Linda won because, despite the mountain of evidence to the contrary, goons aren't monsters.

Also, I'm very sorry but I forgot to take a screenshot of selecting Dan's pages because he got second place. :( So, uh, just assume I did that, okay? But, umm, let's move on to the ghost journals!



Remember, last time in the ghost journals, we read that an elderly widower was contemplating suicide. Now, we are going to find what happened.



And it ends with an open ended cliff hanger. This is the only journal this time. I can see how people can think this is a cop-out but it just feels pleasantly bittersweet to me.



Tommy, being 5, doesn't really understand what's happening with his parents.



It looks like even Dan isn't on board with the Dan option this time.



Dan can be a really stand up guy when we force him to be.



Dan managed to negotiate a way to get publicity while staying with Linda. Like he said, it's very unlikely that his publisher will be happy with this choice.



Tommy: The poo poo Child.

I'll be posting the final voting section soon so hold on tight. But first, I'd like to leave you with a review/preview:



Get hype.

General Ironicus
Aug 21, 2008

Something about this feels kinda hinky

Looks like they're planning on having another kid and finally getting it right this time.

Bookworm
Apr 22, 2014

Tommy's tantrum makes a lot more sense when it says that this was a preplanned event. A five-year-old being upset because he can't go to a show that he's been looking forward to is actually pretty normal, especially since he's not going to grasp the significance of a relative's death at that age. It's a lot more sympathetic than "Is she in heaven? Good, because I just decided I want to go to a show!" at least.

Pine Bamboo Plum
Nov 5, 2009

quote:



Looking at this, I feel like we're pretty well-balanced between everyone's choices. Not sure what it all actually means yet, but Dan and Linda's marriage seems better than before. I don't have high hopes for his book though.

ThatPazuzu
Sep 8, 2011

I'm so depressed, I can't even blink.

Bookworm posted:

Tommy's tantrum makes a lot more sense when it says that this was a preplanned event. A five-year-old being upset because he can't go to a show that he's been looking forward to is actually pretty normal, especially since he's not going to grasp the significance of a relative's death at that age. It's a lot more sympathetic than "Is she in heaven? Good, because I just decided I want to go to a show!" at least.

You're right. Too bad that, as far as I can tell, there's no way to learn that while playing.

ThatPazuzu
Sep 8, 2011

I'm so depressed, I can't even blink.


The Road Ahead: The summer came to an end and Dan fa

Just like the last ghost journal said: we can’t look back, only focus on the road ahead. That’s why this chapter is about deciding the future of the Kaplan family. Our previous decisions still matter but this time voting will cause very significant changes.




The Kaplans are packing up and ready to leave our haunted house. This is our last chance to spook them and probe their minds.



Linda has put a picture of Grandma Jo next to her bed to honor her memory. Not as cool as the Tynan picture in my opinion but not bad.



So I was wrong about the underwater hand thing, even though that’s genuinely I thought when I first saw the half-completed painting. I’ll allow you to make your own conclusions about the meaning of this painting.

Oh, also the weekly menu changed. It’s still too hot for anything but lentil soup.

DAN




The book has been sent off and we can no longer influence its quality. Hopefully we did enough in the first eight chapters. So we’re going to finally do something not book related for Dan this chapter.




You finally finish paying off your student loans and then they hound you for donations, amiright?




It turns out that Dan applied for a job at a university and was hired! This—this kinda out of the blue but SOMETHING had to happen to him this chapter. I gotta say though, I’ve been inside his head and I would not hire this man.




Of course it loops back around into being about his books and him getting more time to write. While this would be a great for Dan and provide a steady source of decent income, it would require uprooting his entire family. Is it worth it?



Yeah, I said that already.



How long is the drive?-Linda
Two hours. We’d have to move.-Dan


NOTE: Dan actually shaved and is dramatically frowning about this whole thing.




At least the compromise last chapter seemed to end well for him. If this book is a bestseller he might not need to take the job after all.



Either way, the decision is for us to make.

LINDA




Linda’s relationship with Dan is still up in the air, but she’s decided to go back to painting even though we made a lot of anti-art votes previously. Still, it’s a thing she’s passionate about.




Even though the co-op and gallery were failure, it looks like we have another chance. Linda’s been accepted into her town’s art program which will let her get better and sell her paintings. Hearing about the program, it seems like it does a lot of good too. However, if Dan takes the job at the Harvard Harvesty she won’t be able to do join.




Sorry Linda, the Novelist doesn’t like anything to be simple. So if Dan takes the job, Linda doesn’t get to join Art for All and Tommy will have to change schools. Alternatively, if Linda takes joins, Dan will have to get a day job and Tommy won’t get the tutoring he needs. It’s like rock-paper-scissors but with people’s lives. A real catch-22.




I can even go full time if…-Linda
Say it: if I get a real job.-Dan


Like I said earlier, Dan doesn’t have a mustache. This is just another huge frown at the thought of working a 9 to 5. But who can blame him?




Turns out that Dan got in more trouble than he let on. At least he did it for a good reason though.



So that’s Linda’s path. It would support her art and guarantee some stability, at least, but sacrifice Tommy’s tutoring and Dan’s happiness. Life's hard.

TOMMY




So this is why spending time with Tommy is so important: he needs additional tutoring, ideally from Dan. I don’t why Tommy is so obsessed with Dan, though. I mean, I get that he’s his dad but… it’s Dan.




Aww, okay, this is definitely The Cute Option.




Tommy dreams of going to his 4 foot tall, socialist red-flag school and meeting up with Orange Shirt Joey and Constantly Falling Backward Mickey.

Yeah, I totally owned this fictional five year old’s art.



So not tutoring Tommy also means he’ll hate school. Ugh, they are not going to let this be an easy decision, are they?



What about my friends?-Tommy
You’d make new ones, buddy.-Dan


Dan does make a good point. If you’re going to start over, do it when you’re in, like, 1st grade.




Choosing to go to a family member’s funeral and not the Not Blue Angels was the last straw for Tommy. His relationship with Dan has significantly deteriorated.



So Tommy’s option is to receive additional help in school, but causing both parents to sacrifice their time, happiness and career. Which, I mean, is exactly what good parents do, but still.

This is the final voting session. The entire thread has been leading up to this, you guys, so I’m going to leave voting open longer than normal so everyone gets to vote.

General Ironicus
Aug 21, 2008

Something about this feels kinda hinky
TOMMY! I love Tommy and I think Tommy should get all my votes because they are for Tommy. Tommy is the best.

Kaishai
Nov 3, 2010

Scoffing at modernity.
Dan.

Tommy's young enough to weather this sort of uprooting. Linda's option is selfish, at least as it regards her family. Giving her art away to charity wouldn't help support them in the least. Dan's option has a selfish element too, but it promises security and money along with his personal fulfillment, and those things are important.

flerp
Feb 25, 2014
Tommy Because kids, you know?

Thanatz
Nov 4, 2010
Dan. Tommy is young enough that he will be able to adapt to the uprooting extremely quickly. Dan working for a university will mean better access to resources to help with tutoring in the future, as well as a stable income to supplement the money from his books. As well, this will allow Linda to access the university's art department, and receive constructive criticism for her painting from professional artists.

Armadillo Tank
Mar 26, 2010

Linda's option is kinda dumb. Dan's option makes sense and it would allow linda to do her art thing freely. Tommy's option is a necessary so he doesn't grow up to be at sub-goon levels of development.

Dan and Tommy

Also it must really suck for Linda to have her only child only draw pictures of him and his dad (and maybe his friends). I am a little surprised this didn't get more air time in the story.

Remora
Aug 15, 2010

Dan and Linda.

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice
Dan and Tommy. No one loving cares about your art Linda, just drop it already. Sacrificing everything for her chance at success is such a stupid idea it shouldn't even be one. Dan is getting an opportunity to actually have a lasting job and Tommy can make new friends. It's a lot easier now than when he's in high school.

LightningSquid
Dec 27, 2013
Dan. Tommy's a first grader and Linda is selfish.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010
Dan and Tommy.

I'm hoping we didn't do enough for Linda and they get divorced, because holy poo poo Dan needs to sever.

IAmTheRad
Dec 11, 2009

Goddammit this Cello is way out of tune!
Dan and Tommy

Tommy needs words, and Dan needs a stable job.

Son Ryo
Jun 13, 2007
Excuse me, do you know where Saiyans hang out?
Dan and Tommy.

StupidSexyMothman
Aug 9, 2010

ThatPazuzu posted:

I can even go full time if…-Linda
Say it: if I get a real job.-Dan


A real job, like, say, associate professor at a college?

Dan & Tommy

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

Linda and Tommy so that Linda get's the house and marries Marco, a sculptor and Dan lives on the street drinking cheap whisky writing odd limericks on subway walls and Tommy ends up in CPS or a special Ed class.

Pine Bamboo Plum
Nov 5, 2009
Hmm...Tommy and Linda. I'm sure Tommy could survive uprooting for Dan's professorship, but Dan won't have the time to tutor his son and it's crucial to get Tommy the help he needs now while he's still young. I don't think Dan is suitable to be a professor, I don't care how small the college is. Plus, Linda has been the one who has had to set aside her dreams for the sake of Dan's. Now that Tommy is older, I'm interested in seeing what she can do. I'm not unsympathetic to Dan's dilemma...I guess it depends on how his new novel does (poorly, probably).

General Ironicus
Aug 21, 2008

Something about this feels kinda hinky
Tommy is just the best and I'm really pulling for the little fella.

Bookworm
Apr 22, 2014
Dan and Tommy because Tommy really needs help with school work and Dan's job sounds much better than Linda's. Her charity art job would be great if it didn't come at the expense of Dan's job that has potential for advancement and pays actual money. And Tommy can definitely make new friends. It only took him a few weeks to be best friends with Davey, after all.

Dr. Buttass
Aug 12, 2013

AWFUL SOMETHING
Nope I changed my mind, give it all to Tommy. He still has to grow up and live through high school. There's time enough for him to be a fuckup.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Dan and Linda we just have to accept the fact that Tommy will always be a complete gently caress up and probably end up dead in a gutter after ODing on heroin. But that's no reason we can't finish that novel and attempt to save our marriage. Hell maybe Dan and Linda's second kid won't be completely useless.

Thesaya
May 17, 2011

I am a Plant.
Dan and Tommy .
Sure Linda, join a charity art collective! It makes it easier to dismiss your stupid idea. Dan getting a job is better for her anyway, she can paint full time and maybe actually get paid for her work.

Mr. Highway
Feb 25, 2007

I'm a very lonely man, doing what I can.
I want to vote for Dan, but I'm not sure that it would be a smart decision. Nothing about Dan has suggested he has holistic knowledge of literature as a course of study in order to be a professor. His only qualification, and the only one given by the letter, is that he is a published novelist. He may be familiar with literature as a collection of mechanics regarding narrative, but he may be ignorant when it comes to matters of literary criticism, historical shifts in different genres, or cultural influences behind writing. Stephanie Meyer and Dan Brown might have interesting ideas when it comes to professorship, but that doesn't mean they would be the best choice. Hell, Dan can't even properly tutor his own son.

That said, my votes go for Dan and Tommy.

ThatPazuzu
Sep 8, 2011

I'm so depressed, I can't even blink.
To be fair, Dan has been name dropping famous authors on the reg. It doesn't mean he's qualified to be a professor, it just means he's not illiterate. Unlike some people.

General Ironicus
Aug 21, 2008

Something about this feels kinda hinky
I'm very concerned about what might happen to Tommy if he's given such a rocky childhood. These are important, formative years. He's already been slipping and a show of support would help so much. Look at how much progress came from a bit of tutoring, and he loves his papa so very much. I'm proud of you Tommy.

ThatPazuzu
Sep 8, 2011

I'm so depressed, I can't even blink.
You know who's into this game? NPR

Edit: Although Wired has a better article on it in my opinion.

I found these while googling "The Novelist Tommy" for obvious reasons and found my own screenshots. I guess I'm an expert on this game now. :confuoot:

ThatPazuzu fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Jul 13, 2014

LupusAter
Sep 5, 2011

Dan. From the letter, it seems he's qualified enough and it's the sensible option.

eating only apples
Dec 12, 2009

Shall we dance?
Dan, it's a great opportunity, and Tommy, it might not be wholly the help he needs but at least it's something. Linda's option is dumb because it is both bad for her family and if rejected not the end of her painting career. If Dan's book bombs (which it will) he's got a good job to support all three of them with. Tommy is at the point where if he doesn't get help he will struggle forever.

e: also if Linda isn't doing anything she can help her loving child and not let him get behind. Goddammit Linda. You came here to be with your family. Dan's an rear end and the marriage is doomed but the least you can do is be with your little boy when he needs you. :(

eating only apples fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Jul 13, 2014

ThatPazuzu
Sep 8, 2011

I'm so depressed, I can't even blink.
Earlier I dismissed the idea of gimmick runs but I'm warming up to it if there's still interest. What, if anything, do you want to see? Like, everyone's win/compromise/lose blurb for each chapter?

flerp
Feb 25, 2014
Tommy always win and Linda gets all the compromises.

Lareine
Jul 22, 2007

KIIIRRRYYYUUUUU CHAAAANNNNNN

Broenheim posted:

Tommy always win and Linda gets all the compromises.

I'm down for that. Let's show them what it's like when the main breadwinner of the family is prevented from working.

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Trin Tragula
Apr 22, 2005

ThatPazuzu posted:

Earlier I dismissed the idea of gimmick runs but I'm warming up to it if there's still interest. What, if anything, do you want to see? Like, everyone's win/compromise/lose blurb for each chapter?

I think a much better way to go would be to explore the results you get by following a certain path through the game; follow the two characters who lost out, and then show what happens if you distribute your votes equally and nobody really wins. That'd bring the themes of the game out far more effectively.

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