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Tulul
Oct 23, 2013

THAT SOUND WILL FOLLOW ME TO HELL.

Pierson posted:

Turtledove and a lot of this genre always struck me as slightly creepy because it seems they really, really loving love to write about the Nazis/Confederacy winning and will go to great lengths to make sure they do, and will then almost always write the following timeline as "hey this isn't so bad HMM REALLY MAKES YOU THINK". Is that about right or am I giving them a bad rap? I like the 'maybe it could have happened this way' pseudo-documentary books rather than the pulp-action ones so I've never really picked him up.

Yes and no, I think. There's definitely a giant strain of creep in the community, but I don't think people like Turtledove necessarily fall into it. They write a lot about the Civil War and World War II for the same reasons there are a million non-fiction books about both. In particular, both have a default heroes vs villains narrative built in, and from there, the single easiest (laziest!) plotline to write is "what if the villains won?" The Nazis winning is the alt history version of a fantasy book about a magic macguffin and a dark lord.

If you want to check out something that is unreservedly gently caress HITLER and is pretty heavily critical of the sci-fi community, you might like The Iron Dream by Norman Spinrad. It's about a timeline where Hitler immigrates to the US after WWI, becomes a sci-fi writer, and espouses all of his ideals through his trashy books.

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