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I've forgiven this chapter a lot of things, but this is actually very annoying. What a cop out.
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Cat Mattress posted:Hurray, nobody had the idea of building a settlement near this river. This is why they decided to build a dam here, to provide the nearby flood plains and national park with electricity. This is good writing: the superheroes provoke cataclysmic destruction during their fight, but don't worry it's just for shows it turns out none of the damage is really relevant or consequential.
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But don't the prisoner's dilemma experiments with real people show that people generally have a bias towards cooperative rather than shafting behaviour? Absolutely everyone else in this classroom has gone "gently caress you got mine" which is what the rational outcome is but not what actually tends to happen. At least some of the others would cooperate, it's very unlikely that Alison would be the only one to put up a black stone. Honestly, I'd put up a black stone just to be a contrary jerk to this rear end in a top hat professor but I guess the moral of this story is everyone except Alison is only looking out for themselves.
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There you go, everyone other than Alison is either an idiot or an rear end in a top hat. And before someone goes I just didn't get it, yes, I understand just fine what the point of this is supposed to be. But by positioning Alison as the only person to put up a black stone like this, the writer is (probably unintentionally) once again having Alison as the only right and good person in the room. And I just don't believe that no one else would put up a black stone. One guy misheard the rules, so why wouldn't anyone mishear in the opposite direction? Is there no other person in the class who is optimistic or compassionate and would believe everyone else would choose black? Is no one in this class friends with this guy and willing to put up a black stone in solidarity, as I would for a friend? Is no one that rear end in a top hat willing to call his bluff? This page would work just as well if one or two other people put up black other than Alison, with the majority choosing white, and it wouldn't make me roll my eyes so drat hard.
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Atmus posted:The people whiteknighting Clevin in the comments is delicious. Its the people who are calling max abusive over this that boggle my mind. How on earth can people be this invested in this stupid nerd rear end in a top hat that can't even be honest that he's asking Alison out as a date and not as a friend that they call the other guy an abusive rear end in a top hat based on a one page exchange. Edit: also apparently joking about kissing or making out on a date is a "red flag". I'm just dying with laughter over here. Serene Dragon fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Jun 2, 2016 |
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Wittgen posted:It's weird to see such fervor when pretty much nothing has happened. No one has been an rear end in a top hat. No one has even been a jerk. What in the world is there to be angry about at any of these characters? No you see max has been a massive jerk because obvs he overhead clevin asking alison to the movies and decided to get in a sick burn (ignoring the fact that Alison is actually the one who brings up going to a movie as a date and max says movies as dates are lame in response to that). And by joking about making out on a date, he's clearly asserting his right to Alison's body and being an abusive possessive dominating rear end in a top hat for not respecting her "boundaries". And that might mean he'll roofie her (seriously someone brought that topic up in response to this page). Also Clevin is not an rear end in a top hat for not making his intentions clear, it is Alison that is really the rear end in a top hat for not being psychic and not realising that Clevin wants to gently caress her and therefore "manipulating" him into a free movie night. I really need to stop reading the comments section, these people are so loving stupid and tumblr-ite it physically hurts.
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Wittgen posted:I don't get this idea that Clevin has done something objectionable either. Not making your intentions clear doesn't make you an rear end in a top hat. It just means you were bad at communicating. A 20 year old with a crush on the woman who saved his life is allowed, I think, to be bad at asking her out without being assumed to be deficient as a person. Yeah, you're right, he's not an rear end in a top hat either. I certainly hope the story doesn't go in that direction because ugh.
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Lmao, drat, this guy is a real peach. You sure know how to pick them, Alison. Honestly, I hate this page so much more because it actually vindicates the commentators that were screaming he was pure evil on the first pages he appeared. He went from guy she rescued from a burning building to slightly ignorant libertarian to massively privileged dickhead pretty quickly.
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Aug 2, 2016 12:36
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rotinaj posted:Why is Alison still here, honestly? There is some point in this conversation where a logical person with the power of flight would go "Oh. You're a douche. Have a nice life." and fly away, and it boggles my mind she isn't there yet. I don't have the power of flight and I'd have peaced out immediately after he said it was their choice to work exploitative hours. Like how does someone with any ounce of principle not immediately tell him he's a selfish fuckbag and leave after that outburst?
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Well since they weren't going for a rape parallel, it's a good thing the creative team didn't have their superpowered main character forcefully bend a guy over a table, tell him to stop trying to get free or he'd just hurt himself and then threaten his life, call him sweetheart and tell him he had to do what she wanted and it'll all be over soon (4 hours tops!). Wait, they did? Well, poo poo. Edit: 100% for real though, if the genders in this were switched and it was Superman doing this to a woman then people would not be having a hard time grasping how rapey this whole page is. Serene Dragon fucked around with this message at 09:14 on Oct 5, 2016 |
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So seeing she'd deleted that tweet I went into her feed and uhhhhhh https://twitter.com/MollyOstertag/status/783685897854128128 https://twitter.com/MollyOstertag/status/783695243031916544
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Oct 6, 2016 20:02
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I lost it at teary eyed Alison in the last panel.
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Oct 7, 2016 09:18
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Okay, I'm done. I am 1000% done with this comic. Honest to god, I wasn't even that put off by the whole Mary chapter despite how terrible that was. But this chapter is just abominable. loving dire in every way.
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Oct 14, 2016 11:12
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40 hours a month also doesn't seem like enough organs to even shift the backlog of organs needed in the US alone, at least not for many many years. Hundreds of thousands of people worldwide need organs right now.
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I can't believe I kickstarted this garbage. I thought the whole point was that superpowers didn't actually make the world better but ha, gotcha, turns out violence and a deus ex machina libertarian fixs everything. What a waste of money.
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Paladinus posted:It's fun to be mad at a webcomic. It's just so disappointing, really.
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Oct 29, 2016 12:15
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Oh my god, this loving insecure Nice GuyTM nerd rear end in a top hat. I saw the signs way back when she was first seeing Max but Jesus Christ she needs to dump him now, immediately, right this goddamn loving second but she won't because this webcomic is written by a guy exactly like Clevin.
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How I want the "relationship" to go: Alison realises that Clevin is a whiny, entitled Nice GuyTM and dumps him as hard as she dumped Max when he turned into a Libertarian. How it will actually go: She settles and they get married cause he's just so nice and uncomplicated and everyone loves Clevin right? Honest to God, nerd guys are the loving worst and he embodies a whole lot of male nerd entitlement with his "i'm sad cause you didn't profusely thank me, your bf of all of 20 pages, in a speech that had literally nothing to do with me". It's a gigantic red flag, but the author doesn't see that because the author is that giant red flag. When that scene started at the end of a page with him saying he felt sad, I thought it would be because Alison and the gang were reminiscing about the good times they had with the murderer who killed his friend. And that, although his friend turned out to be a dick, he still had complicated feelings about it. You know, something actually interesting. But nah, it's because he's a loving whiny self-absorbed prick upset about a dumb speech.
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idonotlikepeas posted:This has been a great way to spend an afternoon while I'm sick; telling people with incredibly bad interpretations of media that they're wrong is a bit of a guilty pleasure that I try not to indulge in too frequently. Says the one who completely misinterpreted loving Watchmen, of all things.
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Fuego Fish posted:I thought that was because she was making out with the power amplifier guy. In fact, "superhumans are getting stronger but we don't know why" actually being due some guy with the power to increase the powers of others would have been a neat little reveal. She got the ability to fly in the murder all rapists chapter, which was before she met Max. In fact, she used her new flight powers to save him from a burning building.
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So the author finally remembered this gigantic plot point from the beginning of the comic and decided to shove it back in after all. I have no hope that it's actually going to go anywhere though.
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Axe-man posted:I'm going to throw out there, that I think the artist kind of has checked out on the project. With the focus on writing, and really, story going where she wasn't originally seeing it going, and it not being interesting to her, it would make sense. The drawing has dramatically changed since the start and that might be commitments and other things, but I think it might just be, that the writing has kind of just made her not give a poo poo. I had a quick scrawl through her website and... kinda? It does currently look less effort than the rest of her stuff, but this is definitely still the "style" she's settled on and all the art I saw there would fit right into the comic. I didn't like any of her illustrations and she mostly draws people, probably because Falstaff is right and her perspective skills are absolutely garbage. I'm not even an artist and I've cringed at the pretty terrible mistakes in the past few SFP pages alone.
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If this chapter ends with Patrick apologising to Clevin I will poo poo a goddamn brick.
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4th panel Alison never fails to make me giggle, it's like she's been dancing after him on her tiptoes.
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Do American cars not have child locks that stop you from opening the doors from the inside? Because it's been a pretty standard thing in Britain since back when I was a child, so it's honestly unbelievable to me that he could even open the door to jump out.
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Elysiume posted:Maybe the mom who is about to murder her child didn't care enough about his safety over the past few years to bother with child locks and didn't think about turning them on this one time. You don't have to engage the child locks every time you get in the car, it's automatic. But, actually, if you were going to kill your telepathic kid who could read your intentions, surely you would lock them in?
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Joe Slowboat posted:Horrible thought: she might have just jumped into Feral's brain, rather than out into the world. It wasn't pointless. We got to see the utter loving hilarity that was Patrick's mum picking up a dog and then snapping it's neck like she the worst Saturday morning cartoon villain. That moment was so bad that I have shown it to everyone to laugh at. But, yes, otherwise Alison went into Patrick's mind literally months ago and we have discovered absolutely zero about this "conspiracy" and Patrick is still as completely batshit as he was at the start. It's incredible how bad this chapter has been, but at least it has been entertainingly terrible.
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Calaveron posted:The thing is neither artist nor artiste realized they were making a rape metaphor when they did that scene of Allison forcing a person to do something they did not want to do under physical and emotional duress "Calm down, if you keep squirming like that, you're going to dislocate your shoulder." "Well sweetheart, I was really only asking as a courtesy."
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The fuckwit author just can't stop accidentally making Alison the loving worst person. What's she's about to do here is a massive violation, far beyond anything Patrick has ever done to anyone else. Sure, he's read unconscious minds for information, but she's literally breaking his mind, changing his entire psyche because.... he has some information she needs? But I guess last chapter she learned might makes right, so she's totally allowed to break and reform someone else's entire sense of being to get what she wants.
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Jesus Christ Alison is the just the loving worst character. She's so far up her own rear end, spouting philosophy 101 constantly because the author thinks that makes her (and him) smart. She does whatever she wants, including various violent assaults and now literal mind-rape, with no consequences because no one can do anything to her. She's a loving monster. And yet it's also obvious from the framing that we're supposed to agree with her! Look how hosed up Patrick's mind is, that means it's totally okay for Alison to smash it to bits for her own selfish gain. The author is such a stupid fuckboy and I'm annoyed all over again that I ever liked this comic.
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I didn't think I could hate the author even more but, man, he just keeps digging this loving hole deeper and deeper. I also utterly, utterly despise all the sycophants in the comment section praising this poo poo and cheering on Alison. There is a monster in this comic, but it ain't Patrick.
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Zerilan posted:Half the comments are some form of "he was asking for it." It's real depressing that this is true. The amount of people justifying this makes my stomach turn.
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Look at Alison, the loving expert in mental health now that she's loving punched his problems away. gently caress this garbage comic, I hope the writer loving dies. Serene Dragon fucked around with this message at 13:25 on Mar 30, 2018 |
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Who What Now posted:He didn't kill his father, his mom did. I know the actions are poorly conveyed but come on. lmao if you really think Patrick didn't know exactly what his mother would do when handed a knife and that ultimatum.
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