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life is killing me
Oct 28, 2007

brick cow posted:

Echoing how just amazing that last scene with Kevin was.

Same.

That was a tear-jerking scene, I don't care who you are--seeing how two dudes who, outside prison, were two different people in almost every way, but became friends through shared hardship. This scene drove that idea home pretty well.

The writing in general is really good, and so are the actors and actresses. No cliffhangers needed really--I feel like the point of the show is the emotional heaviness.

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life is killing me
Oct 28, 2007

Hughmoris posted:

I understand where they're trying to go with her but Amantha grates on me.

She's the least subtle of all the characters IMHO but I like her. No, not because she's hot.

life is killing me
Oct 28, 2007

Fooz posted:

Ok I'm ready for some protagonist action. Two episodes with just the supporting cast was maybe too many.

To be fair, it's a great supporting cast. Clayne Crawford is great (one of my favorite actors) and the minor supporting characters are excellent as well.

life is killing me
Oct 28, 2007

savinhill posted:

I just hate her name, everytime its said I think it should be Amanda instead and it gets on my nerves.

Well, we southerners come up with weird names...

life is killing me
Oct 28, 2007

Ugh I knew all along there wouldn't be a resolution this season, and that was a bittersweet realization.

I felt bad for Daniel in the finale. It seems like he's given up, but I can see why. In a way he was released from prison, right into another prison, to wax a little philosophical. In the debrief scene (which was easily the most intense scene in this season by far, in my opinion), Aden Young does a very good job portraying a dude who knows he didn't kill Hannah, but just wants it all to be over, and is conflicted about what he should say in order for that to happen. I almost thought he was going to say he didn't kill her so it would go to trial and I was kind of hoping for it. The senator is basically the best antagonist I've seen in a show recently, just for whatever reason determined to see Daniel scapegoated for the murder (I would really love to see why he is so dead-set on putting Daniel away, either he really believes Daniel did it or he's protecting the guys who really did it for some reason). Basically I could just tell Daniel wanted to say that he didn't do it, but is wary of a trial because he's sick and tired of the entire town and of the senator and maybe if he can get away from the town he can just move on with his life.

Anyway, the DA(?) getting that phone call will be a good reveal the next season, and the second the scene began with the boy swinging over the river I was sort of reminded of Stand By Me and knew they'd find the body of the dude who shot himself at the end of last season. Also pretty anxious to find out what Teddy was talking about when he walked in to talk to the sheriff.

gently caress, this is a good show.

life is killing me
Oct 28, 2007

And Daniel will be living in Delaware or some poo poo, or gently caress, maybe Florida, Daytona Beach with the lay-deez

life is killing me
Oct 28, 2007

precision posted:

Oh, and I think it was meant to be heavily implied that Daniel is planning on killing himself once he leaves Georgia, hence the conversation with Jared: "Will I ever see you again?" "Probably not. Wait a while to tell mother."

If there weren't a third season on the way, this would have been one bleak rear end ending.

I really hope that's not where they go with the show, but you're right, it does seem like he might be planning on it--saying Jared won't ever see him again would seem weird otherwise since the family could obviously go visit him wherever he went. Though Amantha had already written him off if he said in the debrief that he killed Hannah, or that if he wanted to see her he was going to have to reach out to her.

I didn't understand her whole reaction to the plea deal and the possibility of Daniel admitting guilt in the murder. I mean, it seems like she's only seeing it from her point of view and is scarcely considering Daniel's, his being that as long as he stays in town the witch hunt will never end because of the senator and he will always be seen as guilty, and he just wants it all to end so he can either be at peace or kill himself.

life is killing me
Oct 28, 2007

Yeah I mean, if you think a convicted murderer who just got released from death row isn't innocent, you probably wouldn't have sex with him, for money or not.

Anyway, I did notice the whole thread this season was about how Daniel's release affected his family, and I think that was a good way to go. Every time Daniel did some weird poo poo like shoot a gun or get high on coke or mushrooms at Lezlie's party, I sweated a little because I kept thinking that if he was smarter then he'd remember he wasn't technically exonerated and that any of that poo poo could come back to haunt him. Every time he went out and didn't come back that night it scared the poo poo out of his mother.

And as far as the coffee grounds, I mean, I wouldn't think the family would have cut him off for that. Even Ted Sr. admitted that Ted Jr. was sort of an rear end in a top hat. Not saying that it excuses what Daniel did to him, but for goodness sake, he should have kept his mouth shut about Daniel especially that soon after his release. The whole way through I kept thinking how much a big baby Ted Jr. was being about literally everything, especially when he said that Daniel had taken everything from him. I felt for him in that scene where he said that, but honestly he brought everything on himself, including the coffee grounds in his rear end. In the end I think that if Daniel would have apologized to Teddy for it they'd have cut Daniel a little slack, because good loving gosh, Daniel had been in prison for 20 years waiting to goddamn die and then got released into a town that mostly thought he killed Hannah. Then here comes Teddy to stir the pot and start talking poo poo and be a dick to Daniel for really no good reason, and Daniel had enough and retaliated in the only way he felt would be effective after 20 years of feeling powerless in prison.

life is killing me
Oct 28, 2007

blue squares posted:

Or, this guy who you believe is a rapist and a murderer is out and showing an interest in your wife. Your wife who is distant. You feel like you're losing control.

Yeah, Teddy is a dick, but this show is good enough that we have to think of it from his perspective, too. He was scared about Daniel's effect on Tawny and handling that in the only way (being an rear end in a top hat) that he knows how to feel like he has control in a situation.

Yeah and I can understand it but he was being a dick right out of the gate too.

And also, yeah I guess Tawney wasn't really denying it either. That probably made it worse. But now he might help Daniel go back to jail just because his wife hasn't denied that she wants to be with Daneil, even if she doesn't actually want to be with Daniel. But I think the vibe given in the show is that she is drawn to him for some reason and she's not quick at all to disavow Teddy of his suspicions on that matter.

e: I guess she was sort of denying it at first, IDR.

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life is killing me
Oct 28, 2007

Ubiquitous_ posted:

I don't think Teddy deserved the coffee grounds assault at all. No one does. But it's kind of a result of two opposite forces colliding -- a broken man who has spent decades being tortured emotionally and physically by inmates and his own past, and a man used to being the center of attention in the family losing grip on all of it. It was a recipe for disaster.

Yeah all I'm saying it, Teddy should have taken Daniel's previous experiences and hardships into account before deciding he was going to be a complete dick.

But no, I agree with you, Teddy didn't deserve that "punishment." I think Daniel could have gotten his point across with a punch. I always wanted Daniel to just get this cathartic bitch session out with everyone. He always seemed, in both seasons, to be maddeningly stoic about his situation and Teddy and the senator and all that. He only breaks the stoicism a little bit in the debrief when speaking directly to the senator. So it was, again, maddening that he never just lost it even once and did a "normal" thing by just punching Teddy in the face. Not that it's really normal to do that and there's usually no need to punch anyone in the face for anything in the real world, but I wanted him to just make a point.

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