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This thread is the best thing to happen to TBB in years. Some Suggestions For Litteral Babies: "I feel a deep-seated anxiety at the prospect of picking up a booke that isn't a trade paperback" Read Elmore Leonard. Pitch-perfect, naturalistic tales of lowlifes, thugs, skip-chasers and mobsters engaging in heists, scams, cons, double-triple-crosses and the occasional murder. One of America's great novelists, incredibly fun to read. Start with Swag, Get Shorty, Stick, Tishomingo Blues, or LaBrava "Gotta have spacemen and pew-pew lazzers" Gene Wolfe writes recursive, Nabakovian weirdo-SF that is Actually Good Literature. Gorgeous prose, fascinating mindfuck narrative structures, displays of tremendous erudition, actual thought put into worldbuilding. Start with Book of the New Sun. "books longer than a comic book are scary and bad" Crying of Lot 49, Man Who Was Thursday, Night Train, Child of God, I dunno, grow up and read a big boy book goddammit. "Im a badass who gets laid a lot and is generally a cool & popular dude *dons sunglasses*" Gravity's Rainbow CARL MARK FORCE IV fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Jul 8, 2014 |
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Happy Hedonist posted:Martin Amis is one of my favorites and I've yet to see him mentioned. I recommend Money, London Fields, and Time's Arrow: Or the Nature of the Offence. Time's Arrow is a fantastic read and could probably be considered sci-fi to some extent considering the narrator is traveling backwards through time. RealTalk: Imo Martin Amis is one of our two or threw greatest living novelists & London Fields is a better book than Infinite Jest. I don't know why goons aren't over Amis' dick: he's unbearably snobby, has terrible teeth, is a turbo-feminist-social-justice-nerd who is simultaneously obessed with machismo and male violence, writes about fat miserable sacks of poo poo coming to their inevitable tragic ends(like E/N), & passionately hates all popular things that aren't pub sports or board games. He's like the goon Moses.
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Philip Roth is loving good. If you disagree with the above statement, I'd take a few minutes to reexamine your opinions re: art, film, politics, religion &c&c&c because you now, at this moment, know what it feels like to be objectively incorrect. e: watch a man examine his own navel so hard that, over the course of 4 novels, he accidentally writes the greatest work of autobiographical fiction in the English language. Then, grumbling and hemming and hawing, he caps off the series, years later, with The Counterlife, which is one of those books where everyone who has ever read it becomes a fervent Counterlife evangelist, one of those inexplicable, lovely chunks of literature that you hesitate to label as "postmodern" for fear of cheapening the experience of reading it. Also, while young, coked-up and still flying on the high of his critically-acclaimed first book, Roth wrote a gruesome, explicit adolescent sex-comedy that, coincidentally, is one of the funniest things ever written. CARL MARK FORCE IV fucked around with this message at 08:25 on Jul 8, 2014 |
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blue squares posted:Thomas Pynchon for sure
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poisonpill posted:Pynchon is just a knockoff DeLillo. Discuss. Counterpoint: You are wrong & also probably not much fun at parties.
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When you think about it, TS Eliot is p. much a K-Mart brand William Carlos Williams.
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JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE I WAS MOCKING POISONPILL'S POST Also, Ted Hughes' rendering of Ovid's Metamorphosis is, like, impossibly lovely.
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CestMoi posted:I'm reading The collected Father Brown mysteries by G K CHesterton and they're really cool because if there's ever an atheist in the story you know he did the crimes because he has no morals to stop him from murdering wantonly. Also they're a lot better than Sherlock Holmes and Arthur COnan Doyle drools, while Gilbert Keith Chesterton, rules. If you ignore the fact that he was an antisemite & hated pretty much everything that both existed & wasn't also beer, England, or Catholicism(ex: Germans, Continental Philosophy, Voltaire, Marx, Protestantism, cats, the Japanese, people who opposed toll roads, Socialists, Spiritualists, Baptists, Darwin, Queen Elizabeth, Anarchists, Capitalists, Atheists, Pacifists, heretics, boring people) then GK Chesterton's oeuvre becomes a bottomless well of some of the finest prose that the English language has to offer. CARL MARK FORCE IV fucked around with this message at 11:43 on Nov 21, 2014 |
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So has anyone here read Cyclonopedia? I'm about halfway in & so far it's equal parts delightful, infuriating, brilliant & meaningless. I want to talk about it. Someone talk to me about Cyclonopedia.
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The Counterlife is his best work imo
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Dr. Gene Dango MD posted:What qualifies as real literature op? If complexity of concepts and character motivation are a factor I would think Asimov and Bradbury would rate very high. And I understand a lot of Lovecraft stories boil down to "Guy writing about the time we went down into a scary hole and now he's crazy" but his word placement is beautiful and extremely skillful at times, at least in my opinion. Would you mind again answering the realness of the following authors? Yes Yes For the most part Not really No And for fun, no
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Kristof is also great for weird sex scenes.
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Books are really good. Here's some really great sentences I have recently read in books and other places: "When Fritz was about 6 years old, Siegfried remarried, to Hedwig Hamburger. " -wikipedia page "These analogies hold true only for those who lacked fervor-- always the greatest number; but all knew that to fail in care about one's soul meant perdition." -Barzun, From Dawn To Decadence "But it needs it in a very different form, because the state needs to subordinate hydraulic force to conduits, pipes, embankments which prevent turbulence, which constrain movement to go from one point to another, and space itself to be striated and measured, which makes the fluid depend on the solid, and flows proceed by parallel, laminar layers. The hydraulic model of nomad science and the war machine, on the other hand, consists in being distributed by turbulence across a smooth space, in producing a movement that holds space and simultaneously affects all of its points, instead of being held in space in a local movement from one specified point to another" -Deleuze/Guattari, Nomadology "'My fingers are long and beautiful, as, it has been well been documented, are various other parts of my body," Trump said.' -AP report "I said again I thought it was hopeless and no good going on, and she agreed, without opening her eyes. (Pause.) I asked her to look at me and after a few moments--(pause)--after a few moments she did, but the eyes just slits, because of the glare. I bent over her to get them in the shadow and they opened. (Pause. Low.) Let me in. (Pause.) We drifted in among the flags and stuck. The way they went down, sighing, before the stem! (Pause.) I lay down across her with my face in her breasts and my hand on her. We lay there without moving. But under us all moved, and moved us, gently, up and down, and from side to side." -Beckett "Dennis had a couple of microwaved Lean Cuisines for supper, both chicken but different, and came out on the porch to look through a few Enquirers." -Elmore Leonard, Tishomingo Blues Words kick so much rear end.
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Paul Auster's New York Trilogy is really good, y'all.
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I think I've said this before, but if you're wanting to break out of the genre ghetto into Real Literature land then take a step to the side and read through some of Elmore Leonard's crime novels. They're some of modern America's best examples of language-for-language's-sake writing while also being super fun and light.
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Exit Ghost is 100% aging literary figure coming to terms with own mortality. It owns.
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