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KettleWL
Dec 28, 2010

Sash! posted:

If you changed an Native American chief into a Gallic chieftain to keep the Chiefs name, aren't you just shifting the "making fun of" to a different ethnic group? Its so sticky and thorny.

The really vexing thing is that I try to think "what if someone named a team after something from my ethnic background" and I can't come up with a scenario I'd really be offended with. I wasn't completely on board with Notre Dame's black guy as a leprechaun but that's more because a leprechaun, by definition, has to be Irish. That's just an authenticity thing there. Plus he should be wearing red.

You're completely removing context of nearly 600 years worth of history of oppression of Native Americans. You, a member of the dominant culture, can't have something "taken" from you to be used mockingly by a minority culture and have it mean the same as a cultural appropriation in the other direction. The Eastern European/poor Irish time on the lower rungs (Note: never lowest, they were still above all non-white minorities) of American society was comparatively a blink of an eye in comparison to the exploitation, denigration, and concentrated efforts to wipe out (Both physically and culturally) the Native Americans, which happened literally from the arrival of the first European. I don't personally feel that "Chief" is offensive, though I can understand how it would be to people sensitive to it's use as a culturally-acceptable "title" for any individual Native American. It could mean a position of respect and admiration, just as Aunt (or auntie) could indicate a familial relation of love and appreciation, but when used derisively to dismiss the status of any member of an oppressed minority (as both terms were used), it takes on a darker connotation.

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