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I honestly want a Cody/Victoria F2 just for it to be the cherry on this poop cake. Derrick winning is boring because I've been saying it was going to be him or Frankie for months.
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BotB definitely made it easier for the guys the first half of the game but you could probably argue that's somewhat balanced by doubling the noms. Because we're specifically talking about being nommed at all, even as a pawn. You're right. Cody and Frankie both only have two apiece at this stage. And Caleb four but volunteered two of those times. So yeah, the BotB and Bomb Squad helped a ton. But Derrick stayed off the block when those guys racked up even a few noms. That wasn't just luck. Derrick's played a hell of a game. He's also won four HOHs on top of all the game playing. I don't think its fair at all to discredit Derrick's game as being easy. I think its a bad season and I think it deserves an asterisk for any kind of statistics keeping or comparisons sakes but I have the give the devil his due. In my head this was the last major hurdle for me to place his game amongst the top tier. If he had lost both comps this week and been knocked out fourth by has hand picked F4 then I would have been a little down on his game and blamed his choice to go so far with the Bombinators. But with him locking up F3 I feel like he probably makes my Top 10 list, or roughly about there. BB2 Will, BB3 Danielle/Jason, BB6 Maggie, BB7 Will, BB10 Dan, BB12 Hayden, BB14 Dan, BBCan1 Jillian/Emmit, BBCan2 Jon/Neda. I'm not sure there's anyone else I'd put in the same consideration as BB16 Derrick even if he does get knocked out third. Maybe I'd have to consider BB4 Jun and Alison, BB5 Drew, or BB8 Dick/Danielle. But it's still a top 20 game at worst. If he can nab that F3 HOH and/or win the game then I think it takes a step into the elite field for me.
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BGrifter posted:I said it a while ago but my fear is Derrick will get the Kim Spradlin treatment and not get the respect his game deserves. If Derrick wins (and he's almost 95.5% locked), him and Kim will forever be compared because each played a balls to the wall smart game against seemingly worthless/dingbat competitors which ultimately made their seasons predictable and dull to watch.
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Sep 16, 2014 21:57
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The recent Jury house footage had everyone high on Derrick with no sour grapes being expressed. If he's at final 2, I think it's a landslide for him.
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Sep 16, 2014 22:39
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Is it just Jason and Danielle that made the final three without being nominated. I want to say that Derrick not being nominated being nominated is more impressive since he had to dodge 55+ nominations compared to the 21 in season 3 (veto only used once). Though it was a different sort of game then with the silver power of veto, and they were able to get two people never to be nominated (and were more fun to watch). Still all three are quite the feat.
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Sep 16, 2014 22:48
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Robnoxious posted:Fear no more, on the last RHAP Rob drew the Derrick/Kim parallel. Also Derrick and Kim both have the personality of accounting software. They'll be super comparable winners if he wins. I don't mind a gamebot but it's a shame when they didn't make the game entertaining too.
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STAC Goat posted:BotB definitely made it easier for the guys the first half of the game but you could probably argue that's somewhat balanced by doubling the noms. Because we're specifically talking about being nommed at all, even as a pawn. You're right. Cody and Frankie both only have two apiece at this stage. And Caleb four but volunteered two of those times. So yeah, the BotB and Bomb Squad helped a ton. But Derrick stayed off the block when those guys racked up even a few noms. That wasn't just luck. Derrick's played a hell of a game. He's also won four HOHs on top of all the game playing. I don't think its fair at all to discredit Derrick's game as being easy. Overall, he definitely played a great game and deserves to win. The Spradlin analogy is spot on. I'm more impressed by his transforming of Victoria into an asset than his zero noms.
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Sep 16, 2014 23:08
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ToastyPotato posted:I can't speak for what she is up to today but her initial strategy was to pull a "people love to hate me" type deal and people actually ended up making references to being the next Omarosa at some point. The problem is BB already has a bunch of those with more personality
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Sep 16, 2014 23:58
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sbaldrick posted:The problem is BB already has a bunch of those with more personality Yeah that's why Frankie is going to have some issues. Everytime he makes an excuse the correct answer is pretty much but _______ did it on BB already and they were fine.
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ToastyPotato posted:Yeah that's why Frankie is going to have some issues. Everytime he makes an excuse the correct answer is pretty much but _______ did it on BB already and they were fine. He can't even fit into the gay actor BB alum slot
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Sep 17, 2014 01:17
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Teek posted:Looks like Cody won veto again. So does he boot Caleb? That's what Derrick will want him to do. It's interesting, Cody could use his brain and figure out that a final 3 with himself, Victoria, and Derrick is potentially worse for him than Caleb and Derrick, since Vic is in Derrick's pocket. But it's Cody so he is just going to do what Derrick wants.
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Sep 17, 2014 05:46
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I am a very happy person today, Frankie out.
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Eltoasto posted:That's what Derrick will want him to do. It's interesting, Cody could use his brain and figure out that a final 3 with himself, Victoria, and Derrick is potentially worse for him than Caleb and Derrick, since Vic is in Derrick's pocket. I disagree. Caleb's made it perfectly clear that he thinks Derrick is a goat and plans to take him to the end to beat. If Cody keeps Caleb in there's a real chance Caleb can win the final HOH and send Cody packing. Cody would have to out talk/manipulate Derrick and even with his inflated ego and opinion of his own game Cody can't want to go head-to-head with Derrick at his game. Booting Caleb is the right move. Both Victoria and Caleb would take Derrick but Caleb is much more likely to be in that position. Keeping Victoria ups Cody's odds of winning one of the first two legs of the HOH. And of course if Cody were half as smart as he thinks he'd realize he needs Victoria as a goat to win. He won't, but that's a mistake for next week. Its the right move to boot Caleb and keep Victoria this week.
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Sep 17, 2014 12:41
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So barring Cody or Victoria being some kind of secret genius we know at least one of the people in the F2 is Derrick does Derrick create a bitter jury when he has to lay his game all out on the floor. Some of these guys are going to feel like idiots.
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Sep 17, 2014 15:36
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Everyone on the jury other than Frankie and Christine has already realized that Derrick is the mastermind of the house and likes him well enough. Nicole was very impressed with his gameplay, Donny considered him a worthy opponent, and Jocasta was good friends with him. Hayden also considered him a friend, if I remember correctly. Even if Frankie, Christine, and Caleb/Victoria vote for not-Derrick (and Victoria would never vote against him), Derrick has the game tied if he makes it to F2. Honestly, I think only Frankie would vote for Victoria, because he's a petty rear end in a top hat. Christine and Frankie would go for Cody, and Caleb would probably be moved based on the final interview.
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pospysyl posted:Everyone on the jury other than Frankie and Christine has already realized that Derrick is the mastermind of the house and likes him well enough. Nicole was very impressed with his gameplay, Donny considered him a worthy opponent, and Jocasta was good friends with him. Hayden also considered him a friend, if I remember correctly. Even if Frankie, Christine, and Caleb/Victoria vote for not-Derrick (and Victoria would never vote against him), Derrick has the game tied if he makes it to F2. I don't think Frankie would vote for Victoria, unless he thinks it would make him more memorable if he did.
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Sep 17, 2014 17:51
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Cody won HOH part 1. Was a "hang gliding" comp. Looks like Derrick threw it to Cody at the end.
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Oooo, interesting. Things are falling out of Derrick's control a little bit. I fully expect Derrick to win HOH part 2 simply because it'll be a puzzle type event and Victoria sucks. But still, a Cody/Derrick showdown for part 3 is no automatic with the "Jurors Said" comp. Cody could win and reach an epiphany that Derrick should be cut. It is a $500k decision after all.
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Robnoxious posted:Oooo, interesting. Cody literally just gave a speech to Caleb saying he was going to bring Derek to final 2, he would look terrible if he didn't do that at this point. Plus he's too stupid to realize he can't beat Derek. That being said, why wouldn't Derek throw this last HoH to avoid burning Victoria?
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Pillowpants posted:Cody literally just gave a speech to Caleb saying he was going to bring Derek to final 2, he would look terrible if he didn't do that at this point. Plus he's too stupid to realize he can't beat Derek. Emphasis mine. You just got 2 squares on my BB16 bingo in one post, congrats! Heard dat.
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BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY HE DIDN'T GET BLOOD ON HIS HANDS SO HE'S SAFE FOR ANOTHER WEEK.
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SweetJahasus posted:Emphasis mine. This is the biggest HoH of the summer. Is it time to make a big move yet?
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Wee Bairns posted:Wait, so who's under the bus, daygum? A stupid question like that deserves a Judy chop, my apadre.
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Assuming Derrick is one of those winners content to win once and not come back, it'd be a drat shame if we don't get Caleb for the next All Stars. It'd be tough picking between Zach, Caleb and Donnie to return.
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BGrifter posted:Assuming Derrick is one of those winners content to win once and not come back, it'd be a drat shame if we don't get Caleb for the next All Stars. It'd be tough picking between Zach, Caleb and Donnie to return. Well two of those guys didn't spend the first half of the game harassing one of the female houseguests like a creep, so it doesn't seem like much of a choice from where I'm standing.
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Zach has an outrageous personality and makes for great BB TV. Caleb would probably be more likeable if not for the Amber situation. And as much as I like Donny, his personality and...morals? I don't know what...lead to boring gameplay/tv on BB because he's just not cutthroat enough. Extremely likeable guy, for sure, but not for Big Brother. I would have liked to have seen him on Survivor, to be honest. BB seems like a waste of his charisma.
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Tide posted:Zach has an outrageous personality and makes for great BB TV. Caleb would probably be more likeable if not for the Amber situation. And as much as I like Donny, his personality and...morals? I don't know what...lead to boring gameplay/tv on BB because he's just not cutthroat enough. Extremely likeable guy, for sure, but not for Big Brother. Donny's morals would have made for better tv on a different season, even last year he would have called the racists out on their poo poo
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Tide posted:I would have liked to have seen him on Survivor, to be honest. BB seems like a waste of his charisma. I could see Donny as an Earl-esque Survivor winner. Does anyone think they'll show Frankie going to the Jury house because I have to imagine that will be a pretty icy reception.
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It would by icy unless the jurors were coached or encouraged to make a big scene - which wouldn't surprise me at all.
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SalTheBard posted:I could see Donny as an Earl-esque Survivor winner. Does anyone think they'll show Frankie going to the Jury house because I have to imagine that will be a pretty icy reception. Wow you are massively underrating the game Earl played. Donny hasn't shown us any reason to believe he's capable of putting on the clinic Earl did.
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BGrifter posted:Wow you are massively underrating the game Earl played. Donny hasn't shown us any reason to believe he's capable of putting on the clinic Earl did. Well they both have beards and played on seasons filled with retards so they're pretty much the same guy.
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Sep 18, 2014 21:44
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Donny's knees would explode if he were on Survivor. He was beyond winded when he won the ball pit POV.
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Donny needs to be on a nice non-competitive show like Antiques Roadshow. No idea about the value or history of the item, but he can tell them how nice the item looks, and he's sure it is special to them.
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What did you guys think of the episode? Jesus Chris at the end I was expecting them all to wave to the camera as it said "Goodbye guys see you next time!" as it panned away.
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Derrick won the second part of the final HOH. Sounds like he and Victoria both had a perfect run, he just was a lot faster.
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:What did you guys think of the episode? Jesus Chris at the end I was expecting them all to wave to the camera as it said "Goodbye guys see you next time!" as it panned away. They always do an episode like that at the end of the season.
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