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neet
Oct 26, 2010
its gay

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Grakdesh
Jul 21, 2005

High-functioning otaku.
I played too much mtg to care about hearthstone

JIZZ DENOUEMENT
Oct 3, 2012

STRIKE!
It's loving f2p, makes use of mechanics that are unwieldy for live games, and most importantly I don't have to be at the same table as the mtg neckbeards that troll this thread.

thuly
Jun 19, 2005

Transcending history, and the world, a tale of MS Paint and animes, endlessly retold.

DrManiac posted:

It's one of the only F2P games I ever played that I liked enough to sink $20 into. That said the fact that there's not any new cards or classes cooled my playing down to an arena a month and however many matches it takes to get the monthly cardback.

same except I didn't give blizzard any money for it

surc
Aug 17, 2004

Scyther that is a good image.

Also the idea of a game that is basically a CCG, only you don't get physical things to C is just weird to me. I just assume they try and price poo poo out like WoTC does though, if it isn't some weird scheme to make nerds spend a million dollars I'm more ok with it but probably will still just play core magic with my brother using that free deck builder/player thing.

JIZZ DENOUEMENT
Oct 3, 2012

STRIKE!
yeah... the game definitely needs new cards to come out...

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

surc posted:

Scyther that is a good image.

Also the idea of a game that is basically a CCG, only you don't get physical things to C is just weird to me. I just assume they try and price poo poo out like WoTC does though, if it isn't some weird scheme to make nerds spend a million dollars I'm more ok with it but probably will still just play core magic with my brother using that free deck builder/player thing.



It's really not that bad, especially considering how TCG are normally (I.e paying $4 for a booster in Magic online)



As long as you don't need a sperg deck with all the rarest cards (you don't) then you get plenty of gold from just playing. The most expensive thing you can buy with gold is an arena ticket that nets you prizes the better you are at the game plus a pack automatically and you can afford one by winning like 3 8 minute games for two days.


[e] For comparison Magic's online draft costs about $14 and you can't earn that in any way in-game

DrManiac fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Jun 30, 2014

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
So that you dishonor him before the judges



Might and Magic: Duel of Champions is pretty good for a F2P card game. It's more dynamic than Hearthstone and it has surprisingly deep gameplay. The interface is confusing as poo poo though, and I still don't really understand how to make a deck, so I've just been using the pre-built decks you can unlock and playing them against friends and random scrubs online. It can take loving forever to play though.

mabels big day
Feb 25, 2012

surc
Aug 17, 2004

DrManiac posted:

It's really not that bad, especially considering how TCG are normally (I.e paying $4 for a booster in Magic online)



As long as you don't need a sperg deck with all the rarest cards (you don't) then you get plenty of gold from just playing. The most expensive thing you can buy with gold is an arena ticket that nets you prizes the better you are at the game plus a pack automatically and you can afford one by winning like 3 8 minute games for two days.


[e] For comparison Magic's online draft costs about $14 and you can't earn that in any way in-game


I gotta be honest I'm never really gonna care about this game enough for that to matter.

Scyther
Dec 29, 2010

DrManiac posted:

It's really not that bad, especially considering how TCG are normally (I.e paying $4 for a booster in Magic online)



As long as you don't need a sperg deck with all the rarest cards (you don't) then you get plenty of gold from just playing. The most expensive thing you can buy with gold is an arena ticket that nets you prizes the better you are at the game plus a pack automatically and you can afford one by winning like 3 8 minute games for two days.


[e] For comparison Magic's online draft costs about $14 and you can't earn that in any way in-game

hey guys drinking piss is less revolting than eating poo poo

thuly
Jun 19, 2005

Transcending history, and the world, a tale of MS Paint and animes, endlessly retold.
Adventure mode looks like it might be cool but lol if that 4000 gold cost is real, that's forty USA credits and I can kickstart a better board game for that kind of scratch

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
So that you dishonor him before the judges



Magic's interface is also really lovely and obtuse. I couldn't figure it out without consulting a guide and a YouTube video. The 20XX games are better in that regard, and you don't need to spend hundreds of dollars, but the meta is even more stagnant than Hearthstone.

Hearthstone is great because it's super intuitive and someone with zero card game experience can figure it out in just a couple minutes. It's also a really lovely game to take seriously, so just play it for fun and if you don't like it you didn't spend any money anyway.

Nemesis Of Moles
Jul 25, 2007

thuly posted:

Adventure mode looks like it might be cool but lol if that 4000 gold cost is real, that's forty USA credits and I can kickstart a better board game for that kind of scratch

yowza, even with that being spread out over a few chunks of games that'd be real dumb.

I kinda wish there was better pve stuff in the game too.

Scyther
Dec 29, 2010

Dirty Job posted:

Magic's interface is also really lovely and obtuse. I couldn't figure it out without consulting a guide and a YouTube video. The 20XX games are better in that regard, and you don't need to spend hundreds of dollars, but the meta is even more stagnant than Hearthstone.

Hearthstone is great because it's super intuitive and someone with zero card game experience can figure it out in just a couple minutes. It's also a really lovely game to take seriously, so just play it for fun and if you don't like it you didn't spend any money anyway.

if a game does not stand up to serious scrutiny and play, it's not worth playing at all. "fun" is not a useful or objective measure of quality.

Nemesis Of Moles
Jul 25, 2007

Scyther posted:

if a game does not stand up to serious scrutiny and play, it's not worth playing at all. "fun" is not a useful or objective measure of quality.

lol

Tarranon
Oct 10, 2007

Diggity Dog

i stand with the gaming proletariat

chaosbreather
Dec 9, 2001

Wry and wise,
but also very sexual.

I really like hearthstone, I've just been too busy with other things lately. I just remembered the season ends in a couple hours though, so I just now blasted through the three games I needed to get the card back. I should really play it more regularly, it's pretty exciting and fun.

thuly
Jun 19, 2005

Transcending history, and the world, a tale of MS Paint and animes, endlessly retold.
Looking forward to playing with the gayest card back long enough to unlock next month's!

Nathilus
Apr 4, 2002

I alone can see through the media bias.

I'm also stupid on a scale that can only be measured in Reddits.
nope. whew, very ungood. you shouldn't play card games for the same reason you shouldn't watch really nasty porn: you need worse and worse till someday you find yourself playing some star wars CG that's twenty years out of print and takes four and a half hours to play a game of.

dont chase the dragon peeps. just let it go.

thuly
Jun 19, 2005

Transcending history, and the world, a tale of MS Paint and animes, endlessly retold.

Nathilus posted:

nope. whew, very ungood. you shouldn't play card games for the same reason you shouldn't watch really nasty porn: you need worse and worse till someday you find yourself playing some star wars CG that's twenty years out of print and takes four and a half hours to play a game of.

dont chase the dragon peeps. just let it go.

Decipher Star Wars is actually really cool though and cheap enough to play with a static group

edit: I'm not joking, if anyone wants to pull down holotable and play with me just say the word

Nathilus
Apr 4, 2002

I alone can see through the media bias.

I'm also stupid on a scale that can only be measured in Reddits.
see what you'll become? DONT DO IT.

btw yeah that game was baller but HEEEEELL no. peddle your filth elsewhere, filthmonger.

Mr. Pumroy
May 20, 2001

chaosbreather posted:

I really like hearthstone, I've just been too busy with other things lately. I just remembered the season ends in a couple hours though, so I just now blasted through the three games I needed to get the card back. I should really play it more regularly, it's pretty exciting and fun.

agreed, when i get home i am looking forward to my new extremely good and homosexual card back.

http://media-hearth.cursecdn.com/attachments/2/102/cardback-upcoming1.png

Grundma
Mar 26, 2007

DOG controls your destiny. Seek out three items of his favor and then seek his shrine.
Dominion is a boring piece of poo poo, Its basically excel the card game

Scyther
Dec 29, 2010

Grundma posted:

Dominion is a boring piece of poo poo, Its basically excel the card game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4JJNpo6Vas

Ragg
Apr 27, 2003

<The Honorable Badgers>

Grundma posted:

Dominion is a boring piece of poo poo, Its basically excel the card game

Oh poo poo son.

Ragg
Apr 27, 2003

<The Honorable Badgers>
Not a big dominion fan either tbqh.

Scyther
Dec 29, 2010

You don't have to enjoy dominion to recognize that it is objectively a very good game.

chaosbreather
Dec 9, 2001

Wry and wise,
but also very sexual.

dominion is basically multiplayer solitaire. the vast majority of turns could be played in separate rooms with no communication at all. it's fun, i enjoy solitaire, and it's great with people who don't care for conflict because it doesn't make them feel threatened. but there is an issue with it: whoever fills their deck with the most useless crap without it weighing them down too much wins. there's friction there so that's good, but it basically means the means of play are entirely disconnected from - indeed, deliberately at odds with - the means of victory.

now netrunner on the other hand, that's a game where you can tell what is happening and who is winning at a glance of the board. it is a perfect visualisation of the game state. every single action you do is simultaneously meaningful in world and in game. if you write down what the players do you end up with a piece of cyberpunk fiction. that's a very good game right there.

Scyther
Dec 29, 2010

chaosbreather posted:

dominion is basically multiplayer solitaire. the vast majority of turns could be played in separate rooms with no communication at all. it's fun, i enjoy solitaire, and it's great with people who don't care for conflict because it doesn't make them feel threatened. but there is an issue with it: whoever fills their deck with the most useless crap without it weighing them down too much wins. there's friction there so that's good, but it basically means the means of play are entirely disconnected from - indeed, deliberately at odds with - the means of victory.

now netrunner on the other hand, that's a game where you can tell what is happening and who is winning at a glance of the board. it is a perfect visualisation of the game state. every single action you do is simultaneously meaningful in world and in game. if you write down what the players do you end up with a piece of cyberpunk fiction. that's a very good game right there.

ah, Quintin Smith, so good of you to join us

Tarranon
Oct 10, 2007

Diggity Dog

Scyther posted:

You don't have to enjoy dominion to recognize that it is objectively a very good game.

this is about as compelling as the time someone told me the Beatles were Actually Very Good even when they didn't like or listen to them

so at least you enjoy dominion i guess

chaosbreather
Dec 9, 2001

Wry and wise,
but also very sexual.

Scyther posted:

ah, Quintin Smith, so good of you to join us

had to google who he is, shocked that kotaku is still a thing

Nemesis Of Moles
Jul 25, 2007

Mage Knight is the protier deck builder board game. Its even kinda solitairey sometimes if you're a giant sperg who fears human interaction. Its basically dominion except its fun

Netrunner is pretty sweet though also

Scyther
Dec 29, 2010

Nemesis Of Moles posted:

Its basically dominion except its fun

Super Rad
Feb 15, 2003
Sir Loin of Beef

Nemesis Of Moles posted:

Netrunner is pretty sweet though also

Netrunner owns, too bad not many people play it

Nemesis Of Moles
Jul 25, 2007

I used to have a really good netrunner group but we had to move and everyone just wants to play magic here which has like 0 dinosaur shaped computers at all

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

thuly posted:

Decipher Star Wars is actually really cool though and cheap enough to play with a static group

edit: I'm not joking, if anyone wants to pull down holotable and play with me just say the word

I spent a lot of money on that in middle school and I don't think I ever played a single game.

Mr. Pumroy
May 20, 2001

i did not play decipher star wars, but i did see the cards at a store and it was my first exposure to the phenomenon of the most incidental star wars character given ridiculous lore. like i distinctly remember some bullshit droid who was in one shot for a fraction of a second in the jawa sandcrawler scene and he had a card that said he was like some kind of super important rebel droid or something? i don't get it man. i don't get it. i don't get why this is.

i turned my nose up at this nonsense and asked the store clerk for a booster pack of magic: ice age.

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
So that you dishonor him before the judges



I had a lot of fun with Vampire: The Eternal Struggle during my more rotund grognard days. I had someone build me a deck and a game would take like 2 hours to finish (we'd play with 6+ people) but it was always a good time.

That's a genuinely fun card game but you do have to deal with people who like Vampire: The Masquerade. You also need a bunch of people because 2 player games are boring.

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Nemesis Of Moles
Jul 25, 2007

Dirty Job posted:

genuinely fun .

Uhhh mods?!?

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