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One thing I was thinking about was implementing laws to prevent law enforcement from being a revenue stream. I understand that you sometimes have to seize property or levy fines, but that revenue ought to go into the US federal treasury or earmarked for foreign aid. Similarly, I'd like to find a way to prevent cost cutting for incarceration. The right way to cut costs is to reduce the number of people in jail, not replacing the food with rotten baloney. Maybe we should fine states a certain amount per inmate. Regardless, the goal is to make prison a clear drain and in a way, punish society for failing to prevent crime.
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meat sweats posted:I would be all for the FBI's role of investigating local police abuse being expanded aggressively. Great idea. Now, when the unionized Chicago cops start shooting back at the FBI agents, you are going to stand with me and demand that we not back down from this plan, right? Sounds reasonable to me. I'm all for taking care of things nonviolently but if a criminal organization can't be taken down peacefully then that's the price we have to pay.
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I think it'd be a good idea for no-knock raids to require executive authorization. Make the mayor or governor put their signature on the warrant.
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Jun 30, 2014 00:51
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Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:This is a lie. It depends on the job. Just guessing, but I think a cop who does mostly drug busts is probably going to have a pretty low mortality rate compared to highway patrol. Anyone have statistics?
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Jun 30, 2014 02:29
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Runaktla posted:I have heard my own share of law related media hype. There was a famous case where a burglar was injured and sued the landowner. What the story always left out was that the burglar was a minor, the structure he entered was a school after hours, and the harm was like falling through a skylight or something. I could be totally wrong because this is such a hard story to research due to all the bullshit, but I heard that he was on the roof for some reason and walked over a skylight that had been covered over with tar. The kid probably shouldn't have been up there but the school didn't do much to stop curious kids with bad judgment from getting into an extremely dangerous area. As for oversight, I work in the casino industry and we've got something that might be comparable. The casino staff does their own thing but we have a regulatory agency that is employed by the tribe hat performs a regulatory role. I guess the general idea is that gambling has a history of corruption and a perception that things aren't fair can threaten the entire operation. It sucks when they're being dumb because they don't understand a technology or they just don't like someone, but I'd rather have that bullshit and a well regulated casino than have to deal with a totally unregulated mess where I might get put in a situation where I'm expected to do something unethical to help make the casino some extra money. Hopefully most police would be onboard for an external oversight process as long as it was designed intelligently and had people on it that had some understanding of how law enforcement works.
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Jun 30, 2014 09:42
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justsharkbait posted:We are held to higher, stricter laws, and our employers have massively large amounts of things they can do to enforce PD policy. For example, we can get fired for stuff we put on a private, friends-only facebook if it in any way makes the department look bad. So silly pictures at a bar? people have been fired for it. Discussing your political beliefs? fired or at the very least chief meeting. Are these supposed to be examples of higher standards and stricter rules? I've got the same rules going on where I work and it applies to everyone from the dishwashers to the locksmith.
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Jul 1, 2014 06:20
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justsharkbait posted:There is no way to prevent that from getting out, and no resealable way to prevent officers from having those personal conversations on video. I don't think that's true. I'm sure if we really think about it we can find a way to treat those videos as private until they're subpoenaed for a court case.
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Grem posted:So far a goon has complained that a cop did not use discretion, and a goon has complained that a cop would use any discretion. I think most of us just want consistency.
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