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Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Chantilly Say posted:

I haven't watched the newest season, but apparently there was a pretty poorly written/handled storyline with one of his love interests.

So?

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Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Jackson Taus posted:

So now Tumblr hates him, I think was the implication.

Oh I see, he's not very bright then.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

XyloJW posted:

I've heard the criticism of Louis because of whatever rape plot or something, evidently the same as Chantilly has. Are you denying that a nebulous number of people on Tumblr might not like Louis CK? Is that really an argument you're trying to have?

I'm saying the amount of louis ck pornfic fans on the site more than outweighs the people who might be suddenly turned off of him by that event.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

illrepute posted:

What will happen in the Scotland thread when the referendum fails?

Too much facepaint.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Bleusilences posted:

I just did my groceries and I just realize that the price of beef is completely retarded.

In what way?

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

A Rambling Vagrant posted:

Turkey burgers are, 90+% of the time, a goddamn travesty.

Depends on the seasoning and toppings ya use.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Doughbaron posted:

SCOTUS legalized virtual and drawn CP in Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition I believe, so Japan isn't the only country to be ashamed of here.

Also, one of my most bizarre experiences in college was watching everyone's head explode as we discussed William J. Brennan's and Thurgood Marshal's opinion that possession of real CP should be constitutionally protected.

Most countries have it legal, but usable as additional evidence against someone who already has actual child pornogrpahy or has been caught actually molesting children. This was used recently for some school teacher in Idaho who had download real child porn but erased it, and was suspected of molesting his students; and he was nailed on the vast amount of drawn stuff he had as well the fact ISP logs showed he had also access real stuff at similar times.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

corn in the bible posted:

So I guess if you used Tor or ever looked at their website you're now considered an extremist by the NSA. That's nice.

Why do you think the Navy let it be released for public use in the first place dude?

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Swan Oat posted:

Aside from the Acela high speed rail that connects NYC and DC, Amtrak is slow and expensive. However, Vox dot com content editor Max Fischer had a twitter meltdown last night because his train had to stop due to the hurricane, so I wholeheartedly support and love Amtrak now.

also is it more lf to support france or germany in the world cup please help me d&d

Amtrak is nevertheless often significantly less expensive than the private passenger services ever were, inflation adjusted. It's also faster than most people think, a lot of perceived slowness comes out of the fact the lines are often indirectly routed to avoid troublesome terrain, and station stops on long distance routes are often quite long to ensure all passengers and luggage can be transferred on and off.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

GWBBQ posted:

The Boston to NYC and Washington DC trains stop in Stamford CT and are typically an hour or two late by the time they get there, that's where my perception of slowness comes from.

The commuter rail operators tend to get in the way on that section of track, with Metro-North having explicit priority over its section. On time performance tends to be much higher between Philly and NYC in particular, and as far as NYC-Washington.

Incidentally, Amtrak is looking into long-term planning for an alternate route from NYC to Boston by way of Hartford and Springfield that avoids the congestion of the commuter rail lines on the current NEC between the two cities. It would be in some ways a revival of an older service Amtrak discontinued on most of the same route in the 80s, however it'd be fully built to the higher speed rail specs the line between Newark and DC is.

Absurd Alhazred posted:

My perception of Amtrak being terrible comes from the fact that it's faster and more convenient to take the bus, and parallel comparison to, say, France, or Israel, ffs.

Depends on the city pair. A lot of city pairs are significantly more expensive by bus than Amtrak.Sure if you're hopping between major Northeast cities there's a lot of routes available and lots of seats at cheap prices; but start trying to get to the Midwest or something and prices increase almost as fast as the routes available decrease.

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Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Blacksburg, VA to Pontiac, MI, for instance. That's one I recently traveled, at the time the Amtrak fare was $89 while Greyhound wouldn't go lower than $119 and required 6 transfers (in part because you had to get your own way to the nearest city with a greyhound stop) instead of just 4.

Also Albany got screwed because the bankrupt railroads preceding Amtrak closed down direct rail access to Albany from NYC the cheap way several years before Amtrak could step in and save the route.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Absurd Alhazred posted:

I... stand corrected. :stare:

I should note that for Amtrak, they included bus service from a 3/4 mile walk from my apartment 100 miles over to the Lynchburg rail station in this cost (and it was a nice bus too! a regional transit agency bus with reclining seats and power outlets).

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Defenestration posted:

Yo why does it cost like $600 to fly from Boston to Montreal?

Probably like most routes that cost a lot in airlines: both no subsidies from etiher city (las vegas is famous for the casino and entertainment buiness being willing to help subsidize down ticket prices to vegas for example) and likely it's a destination pair that primarily attracts business travelers, who are generally willing to pay more.

It's also a very close set of destinations, only a 300 mile drive and people out to save money can just pay about $50 in gas to do itl so there's probably little demand for low cost airfare.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Vivian Darkbloom posted:

What's wrong with it

Corporate personhood is how it's possible for any form of corporation, business, non-profit or governmental to exist at all. The entire idea of a corporation is creating a separate legal person that can handle contracts and conduct business on behalf of as few as a single persn or as many as millions.

Demanding an end to it is essentially on the level of demanding a return to the gold standard.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

size1one posted:

An entity is required, personhood is not. It's completely reasonable to separate people from legal constructs.

That's already separated.

You seem to be yet another person who has no idea what corporate personhood means, congrats.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

R. Mute posted:

do americans, like, realise that there are countries outside of the us and that many of these countries have found ways to do Things that they could easily copy if they wanted to? like, corporations aren't people here, i don't think, but they still exist and we aren't living in a literal hellscape yet. maybe you guys should check it out, i dunno

Corporations have personhood in every single country in the European Union. That's how corporations work and exist.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

size1one posted:

I understand the concept just fine, thanks.

It is not completely separate. Granting corporations "personhood" means that the terms "person" and "persons" apply to corporations too. We've created a system in which corporations and people are combined by default, rather than separate by default. They can't be explicitly separated in laws either because as persons they are guaranteed equal protection under the 14th. The only way they are separated now are for things that will never be enforced, challenged, or absurd (e.g. A corporation being required to purchase health insurance as a person or a corporation murdering someone).


That doesn't disprove my point. The rules of the legal system were defined by people, and we can do that however we want.

No, you do not understand the concept because you immediately posted the next paragraph.

People are people. Corporations are only legal people. Corporations do not have full equal protection under the 14th amendment, they do not have full any rights.

Every other country on earth that has corporations at all has corporations as persons, because that is literally the concept of a corporation.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

R. Mute posted:

oh i thought we were using the colloquial use of corporate personhood where it doesn't just mean 'a corporation is more than just a collection of people' but has connotations involving civil rights and and getting involved in the voting process and all that

is that what you're doing? getting really anal about legal semantics? i honestly don't know. it could be.

Corporations have limited civil rights all over Europe as well as America, and they're only involved in the voting process in the City of London.

I'm just telling people to stop believing it's worthwhile to do anything based on vague notions of what established legal and economic terms are.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

size1one posted:

Every country on earth used to be a monarchy or theocracy. We were totally in the wrong for rocking the boat on that one too.

So you love sole proprietorships and the inability of governments to participate in contracts or what? There's literally nothing to gain from some shitbrained attempt to "end corporate personhood" anymore than there was anything to gain from donating to the KONY 2012 people.

R. Mute posted:

agreed and unironically only a revolution will solve the problems that the western capitalist world faces. death to capitalism

same and agreed.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

illrepute posted:

All over. Places like Kansas, which are now huge republican strongholds, used to be the beating heart of America's left-wing populist movements. I don't really know what happened. I was recommended a book about this once. Uh... what's the matter with kansas? I think?

Well, one could argue it had a lot to do with how what were for a long time struggling small farmer that needed progressive policies to keep them going have gradually transitioned to a point where both parties are more than happy to poo poo out farm subsidies to them and they're doing better for themeselves.

So now they're free to vote based on what appears to whatever hosed up moral issues they have a focus on this week, and that leads to Republican voting. Many of them even still have extensive arguably leftist institutions, like state-owned banks, massive cooperative enterprises, and shared facilities at the same time they holler on about the gays and the welfare leeches!

size1one posted:

I never argued we shouldn't have corporations. In fact, I explicitly stated that corporations are needed. My point has been and still is that there is more than one way to convey rights and legal protections to corporations.

But then you're probably just trolling me what with the false dichotomy, ad hominem, and strawmen. I should know better than to actively engage you.

It is literally impossible to have a corporation without personhood. You could change the legal name of the concept to something other than personhood, but it would still actually be personhood.

Xenocidebot posted:

It would probably be less of a reflexive vague anger for people if we used legal/juristic/artificial person as the descriptor. People hear "corporate personhood" and they think "a corporation being treated as equivalent to a person", whereas international descriptors are pretty unambiguous about it being beneath natural personhood.

Well before about 10 years ago you rarely heard anyone getting enraged at the term "corporate personhood" because it was just a neutral legal term at the time. A certain subset of people started spreading the notion that this long-standing concept was the problem and now the term is poisoned in the same way as say "communism" is among most Americans.

FRINGE posted:


There is no need to apply "personhood" to preserve those legal artifacts.


Yes there is. Those "artifacts" are what legal personhood is.

paragon1 posted:

Question: How long before we get some company suing the government for the corporate tax rate being discriminatory?

I could swear this already happened once in the 70s or 80s, around the time things like Prop 13 in California and other "taxpayer revolts" were happening. And it was laughed out of court and led to the dude trying to bring the suit getting audited later.

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

Personally when I read that the reason Oklahoma only allows Democrats and Republicans on the ballot is due to the strength of left-wing third parties in the early 20th century, I had trouble believing it.

A lot of states used to have "electoral fusion" allowed, now it's pretty much only New York that allows it. Electoral fusion means multiple parties can run the same candidate on the ticket, and get all the votes for themselves from the multiple parties.

So you can get party line votes on say the Social Party, who shares the same governor and US senate candidate as the Democratic party, but is running candidates in opposition to the Democrats in the state senate and house. You get your people to vote party-line for your party without throwing away a vote on the less competitive Governor and Senate positions, and you can be viable force in state politics. Now this quickly started to anger the major parties in most states, and so it was almost entirely swept away by the 1920s.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

size1one posted:

The first case deals with a non-profit, which I believe should be treated differently from a for-profit corporation. Non-profits serve a different purpose than corporations and should have stronger rights than corporations.

The other two cases involved the New York times and were entirely or partially decided based on the 1st amendment explicitly granting rights to the press. Even losing protections under the 14th these cases would have the same outcome. These are great examples of how we can, and did, narrowly grant rights to non-persons when they deserve them.

"I don't want corporations to have personhood, except that I do want corporations to have personhood"

That's the post you made right here!

SedanChair posted:

m-make bigger patties :psyduck:

That is forbidden in Obama's America.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Chantilly Say posted:

Anecdotally, in New Jersey US history I got a nice treatment of labor history, with a lot about populist movements, post-Civil-War domestic politics, a documentary about the Homestead Strike, excerpts from The Jungle... good stuff. I didn't appreciate at the time how cool that was.

Then in California I took US history again and it was only poo poo that was gonna be on the AP test at the end of the year.

Same, except I never had to go to a California school.

Joementum posted:

:lol: you read Killing Hope in high school? That is LF as gently caress.

We had that in 10th grade history class in my school.

Also my hometown school district was the focus of Fox News rage for doing an emergency training drill where the attacking party was a group of Chrisitan extremists protesting abortion. (the school board and administration having decided this was the most likely scenario for an armed takeover of a school) :)

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe
Here I should probably link a story about that incident:
http://www.bluejersey.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=4457

"The drill scenario was created by the Burlington Township Police Department and was written in an information packet describing the objectives of the drill. It specified that two armed men invade the high school through the front entrance, shoot several students in the hallways, then barricade themselves in the media center with 10 student hostages.

The written scenario used by police during the drill described the intruders as "members of a right-wing fundamentalist group called the "New Crusaders' who do not believe in the separation of church and state. They also have a strong commitment in their right to bear arms."

The scenario also indicated the mock gunmen went to the school seeking justice because the daughter of one of the men was given detention and eventually expelled for praying before the beginning of class."

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Raskolnikov38 posted:

thinking about it more my senior year history teacher could have been an lf poster, he also did a yearly summer trip for interested students down to Guatemala for a month and a half to learn about the country and do aid work.

He wouldn't happen to have participated in one of those groups that handles educational aid to Guatamala, was he?

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

ReV VAdAUL posted:

I wonder when or even if automation is going to start becoming an issue discussed in the mainstream.

It already was, about 180 years ago, and generally again every generation or so up until the 50s.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe
My money's on if a Republican president gets elected any time soon, they'll get assassinated before their term is out by some rabid tea party wacko.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

ThirdPartyView posted:

Isn't Doral College some unaccredited shithole charter college? Well earned by Pitbull.

So unaccredited and shithole that it does not actually have any undergraduate or graduate students and doesn't plan to for the next 5 or so years!

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

mdemone posted:

Given the CIA's track record, I half expect that they were emailing this guy's dossier around internally and accidentally CCed Angela Merkel.

Why the gently caress are we spying on Germany anyway?
Everyone spies on everyone, outside of super minor countries like Palau or whatever.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

zoux posted:

My car has no A/C :negative:

This should probably be against the law these days, honestly.

Randler posted:

Why did people settle there in the time before A/Cs if it's so unbearable? They can't have oil and gold everywhere, can they?

For the most part they didn't.
Before air conditioning:



I want you to especially note that on these two maps, they mark off every city/town with at least 8000 inhabitants with solid dots. Notice how very few there are in the South during these time periods, while the North is full of them.

After air conditioning:



Also relevant to consider, Florida's population over time:

Key years to consider:
1920 is when practical home and business air conditioning became available
Between 1950 and 1960 is when air conditioning started being very common in at least new build in Florida and a standard upgrade to existing housing.

Nintendo Kid fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Jul 9, 2014

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Popular Thug Drink posted:

I agree that the north, much like fishmech, is full of it.

It's pretty cool how Virginia is close to being Northernized, even out here in the southwest part of the state. :)

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Miltank posted:

If only Omaha had access to the social progress of SoCal's many gay clubs.

That's change we can believe in.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

razorrozar posted:

In all seriousness, South Carolina is a Republican controlled state in the Bible Belt with all that comes with that. That's why it sucks here and why I want to move to the west coast.

Why don't you just move north and in general experience nearly the same pay as the west coast, often significantly lower cost of living; as well as much better public transit? And states that don't have insane restrictions on normal taxes (property tax bs in Cali, that bizaree taxpayer "bill of rights" poo poo in oregon that prevents retaining surplus tax revenue to the state, or Washington's no income tax but high other taxes to make up for it)?

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Popular Thug Drink posted:

Because the north blows goats and is full of jerks and insufferable wannabes.

I see you've confused your mirror for the North again, settle down atlantis.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

razorrozar posted:

I haven't looked into it extensively because it's a pipe dream for me until I save up the money to do it, and as long as I'm dreaming there might as well be Cali beaches in it. If/when it comes to the point of actually moving out of state I'll consider my options much more carefully.

There's beaches all over the East Coast to go to, and most of them are a lot warmer.





ReidRansom posted:

I've never heard it in Texas. It's more like, "don't like the weather? Tough poo poo. Maybe come back in nine months when summer's over, or something."

When I visited Arizona, someone told me "don't like the weather? me neither".

Thanatosian posted:

I mean, it varies widely with what city you're in, but generally speaking, the cost of living in the Northeast doesn't favorably compare with many places.

It favorably compares with the cost of living in the West Coast's major metros, and the West Coast areas that don't have that high cost tend to not be places you'd want to be.

It's also kinda funny how the Northeast tends to have both much cheaper gas and much better transit than the West Coast.

Nintendo Kid fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Jul 9, 2014

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

razorrozar posted:

"Found"? How the gently caress does that get lost?

"Guys, I mislaid some samples of one of the deadliest diseases known to man. Don't worry, I'm sure they'll turn up!"

They were lost because they were assumed to have been destroyed, then it turned out they hadn't been destroyed.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

paragon1 posted:

Basically the dude believes individual sperm are carrying around little thermite det cords and those cause aids when they don't enter an egg. It's a new one for Team Stupid, that's for sure.

Edit: If this insane idea were true we'd have one hell of a way to poison enemy water supplies.

Well duhhhh thats why the military was trying to develop a gay bomb! The enemy would give AIDS to themselves immediately.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

paragon1 posted:

What would you do if you had a million dollars?

blow it all on lottery tickets

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Thanatosian posted:

I give the South a lot of poo poo, but in my experience, no state lives up to its stereotype anywhere near as well as Vermont.

Yeah Vermont's full of pasty time travellers and light aircraft.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Joementum posted:

That movie made Rutland look significantly nicer than it actually is.

We're just living in the wrong tangent, that's all. Luckily it'll be fixed by September 2041 or so.

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Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

rscott posted:

Have you guys noticed a trend of really conservative racist rear end dudes really liking Rage Against The Machine? Can someone explain this to me because it's not like they've got a dude in their band who is an objectivist and poo poo like Rush being left wing and playing concerts in Cuba and poo poo was kind of what they were all about

It's just something I've noticed between Rand Paul and a lot of dudes that I work with

They really like "gently caress you I won't do what you tell me"

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