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BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

Amused to Death posted:

Has there ever been any kind of study on why old people wear their pants so high?

I think it's because that's how men dressed back in the 1950s.

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BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

More 40s/50s man pants.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24xiV3LlBbY&t=62s

# ¿ Jun 30, 2014 01:20

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

Unzip and Attack posted:

Everyone's always blowing Reagan and his "rhetoric" and what not but aside from coining a few masterful terms like welfare queen, he wasn't some incredible orator. People worship him because the modern conservative movement absolutely needs a contemporary conservative figure to lionize and for historical reasons outside his control, he won by default. I mean poo poo, Reagan's own policies failed the 2008 "Reagan Test" that was supposed to be some pseudo-religious standard of devotion. It's not that Reagan was anything special, it's just that his target audience is made up of the worst scum in the country who willingly praise him for poo poo he didn't even do or say.

Yeah the conservative movement needed someone to lionize, absolutely. But Reagan spoke in very simple and plain terms that were easily understandable to ordinary people, and he had a flair for camp and drama. Then you look at the three preceding presidents Nixon, Ford and Carter and you can see why conservatives went all gooey for Ronnie. And I think people are nostalgic about the 1980s and Reagan benefits from that.

# ¿ Jun 30, 2014 11:23

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

Oh I forgot the other thing. Reagan rebuilt the conservative coalition. The GOP's civil war today is in a lot of ways the breakdown of Reagan's coalition, I think. So he was a "great" figure in the sense of changing the alignment of American politics. But I think the main thing is if you think "Reagan was a giant dumbass why do people lionize him?" the answer is that his dumbassedness had a touch of genius to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5wHRryA2aw

And then you look at who he was going up against: Jimmy Carter and Walter Mondale? Blegh.

Edit:

Also LOL at the "great communicator" line at the end of this below. "Aw shuddup!" 'And then the heckler shut up forever...' Truly, Reagan was an inspiring president. And also the picture of him in a cowboy hat above the words AMERICA on the podium. You can't make this up. :911:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEXOpm0H7QA

For reference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhHdy1kkinE

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 12:06 on Jun 30, 2014

# ¿ Jun 30, 2014 11:50

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

Interesting thing about Sherman is that he was not hated in the South (at least not widely) until the 1880s. Between the end of the war and the start of the Lost Cause revisionism, he toured the South, did public events with John Bell Hood. He went back to Atlanta and the local newspaper Weekly Constitution published this:

quote:

Yesterday General Sherman returned to the scene of this destruction and disaster, and looked upon the answer that our people have made to his torch. A proud city, prosperous almost beyond compare, throbbing with vigor and strength, and rapturous with the thrill of growth and expansion, stands before him. A people brave enough to bury their hatreds in the ruins his hands have made, and wise enough to turn their passion towards recuperation rather than revenge. . . .

Then Jeff Davis wrote a revisionist history of the war and demonized Sherman. And then that became the official history of the South.

http://deadconfederates.com/2012/03/03/evilizing-general-sherman/

Since the original piece on that is behind a paywall, here's a comment summarizing it:

quote:

Bassett�s point is not that Sherman was well-liked in the South, and absolutely there was resentment about the destruction his army had caused. But Bassett makes the point that, to a large degree, those were seen as more broadly consequences of the war, and Sherman individually was not held to be the inhuman ogre that he later came to be, after a deliberate, ongoing effort by Davis and others. Bassett doesn�t get into the case of South Carolina, but it would be interesting to see if there was a similar pattern there.

One thing that Bassett makes clear is that prior to 1861, Sherman had spent most of his adult life in the South, and had a great fondness for the region and its people � which to him, meant the upper stratum of white Southerners. He was largely indifferent to the practice of slavery, finding it problematic, but also reflecting the (to him) proper hierarchy of the races, and beneficial to both. (In this respect his views were strikingly similar to Robert E. Lee�s.) He never lost that affinity for the South, but the one thing he loved more than that was the Union, and he was tenacious in crushing the rebellion. I think it�s accurate to say that Sherman saw himself as a friend of the South, but a mortal enemy of the Confederacy.

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