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Evil Sagan posted:I'm sure other people here can come up with examples of RPGs that don't come stained with oppressive attitudes. For those who want to vote with their wallets, should we cook up a list of suggested game designers/publishers? The White Wolf team behind Blood & Smoke (Vampire update) are pretty swell in LGBT representation from what fans tell me (and from what I've seen in their earlier products). Pathfinder's trying this and succeeding along the way (transgender NPC in demonhunter adventure path, for ex) despite earlier hiccups. Also, Pathfinder dev telling off a homophobic fan and saying that their products aren't for him. And a more recent example answering a quoted grognards.txt accusation of a political "agenda." Mikan (Last Stand guy) cares very much about fair representation in his RPGs, and made Inverse World. Green Ronin is LGBT-friendly, and Mutants and Masterminds and Blue Rose were notable in 2005 for including homosexual heroes. Steve Kensen talks about this in an article here. Libertad! fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Jul 4, 2014 |
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Bucnasti posted:While people are talking about pundit and grogs, there's something I've always wondered... That the public image of D&D will be different than the one they know and love. "Hey, ever played D&D?" "You mean that game with Dragonborn and Warlords?" "FFFFFUUUUU-!" It's actually weird, because I hang out on Min-Max Boards. They do not like 4th Edition at all, but they almost never talk about it. They don't go out and troll other forums or bemoan the "death of D&D." Instead they stick to talking about and playing 3.5, a game they're comfortable with and love. Basically, the greatest haters of newer Editions are the folks who obsessively follow its every development, or spend nearly as much time hating on it as focusing on the games they do enjoy. Libertad! fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Jul 4, 2014 |
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neongrey posted:We'll see-- I feel like right after release of a product is probably the worst time to send a thing like that though, if you don't want it to be drowned in a sea of "But why didn't you do what I wanted?" Well, lots of folks don't keep up on Internet drama, and may not know what's the deal with Pundit and Zak S. Although the former is disliked by a lot of forums (rpg.net, The Gaming Den, Circus Maximus, this one, etc). Pointing to examples of their most negative behavior would be a better idea in regards to people who ask "what's up with those guys? Why are they bad?" Libertad! fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Jul 4, 2014 |
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Alien Rope Burn posted:I love the conspiracy theory chestnut that the Swine are cunning enough to fool people, push their agenda and achieve their aims, and yet are simultaneously childish imbeciles who understand nothing and have difficulty fitting Lego blocks together. Just for fun, if story-gamers are COBRA, what does that make Pathfinder fans? Or ExXxalted fans?
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Jul 9, 2014 01:25
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Thread's over, everybody.
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Error 404 posted:Please don't troll. At least it's not CthulhuTech.
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Jul 9, 2014 02:19
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The Book of Erotic Fantasy has great mechanics for sex.
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Jul 9, 2014 02:29
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The Blue Rose RPG is socialist propaganda.
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Jul 9, 2014 02:33
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Mwahaha, it's only a matter of time before Dungeon World becomes the next Pathfinder in terms of inundated 3rd Party Content! It's all going according to plan.
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Ettin posted:A lot of us got that, that was probably another goon goofing around. Yeaaahhh, that was me. Sorry about that covok, no malicious intent here. I just liked the text below gnome7's avatar and thought it was funny and figured that a lot of Goons would get the joke. Libertad! fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Jul 10, 2014 |
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Thought Experiment: This is for a Pathfinder supplement I'm working on. I want to get your collective opinions and answers. There is no wrong answer. First, I’m going to make up two fictional societies off the top of my head. After reading my short descriptions of both, I want you to assign them the alignment you think most closely matches their moral and ethical structures. Ready? Here we go. Society A is a small isolated village. Its inhabitants prize the benefits of collectivism and working together, their economy based upon a system of barters, favors, and shaming to encourage good behavior and cooperation. They have no mayor or king, instead deciding major decisions via temporary alliances of town councils who cooperate together against a major threat or issue. Everybody is equal, and there is no private property; everything beyond personal possessions is either shared or used by people with the proper training. This society does not see the value of written laws, but they do have a malleable system of social rules intended to keep things operating smoothly. Society B is an advanced civilization of art, knowledge, magic, and warfare. Its people pride themselves on their heritage and favored status in the world, believing that their ancestry alone makes them worthier than other people. Racism is prevalent in their ways of thinking, and they have trouble understanding why outside cultures act as though this is not the case. Children of mixed race are doomed to a life social isolation and ostracism, leading many of them to leave. Some cities and subgroups even practice forms of inherent social stratification among their own kind, such as a caste system or even indentured servitude by applying their own racial superiority inwards.
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Tollymain posted:this is roughly as subtle as a brick to the face Then that means the experiment is working. Seriously though, Society A is not orcs, but Anarchists. Anarcho-collectivists to be specific. And I'm not redesigning the races. My true plan is to make a set of rules getting rid of alignment as a game mechanic in Pathfinder. Due to the extraneous details in the game, simply houseruling it to not exist will cause all sorts of things to go out of whack. Alignment-based weapons which pierce damage reduction, spells keyed off of alignment, the paladin's class features, et cetera. In addition, I was thinking of writing a few short blurbs demonstrating how alignment preconceptions don't line up well, although I think that a lot of folks already know that. Anyway, I posted this on several different message boards, and you guys were the first to see through my scheme. Libertad! fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Jul 15, 2014 |
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Dark elves were actually dwarves in some forms of European mythology.
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Jul 15, 2014 06:02
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Piell posted:Only things like demons and angels and poo poo have alignments. Boom, done. Still doesn't take care of the sizable gaps left in the system. My book also redesigns some of the magic items keyed off of alignment to other thematic things (sunblades bestow negative levels on undead and Light-blind creatures instead, for example). Anyways, I'll let my work speak for itself when I finish it. zachol posted:Maybe give this a read? This is a good article. I've already looked over the areas of spells and monsters in my own stuff, but it's a cool resource nonetheless. Libertad! fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Jul 15, 2014 |
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Jul 15, 2014 06:10
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Arivia posted:I'm pretty sure that just means you've been reading Chris Fields supplements. No no no, if it were Chris Fields book they'd all be loli elves. Night10194 posted:The other thing: If Angels and Demons still have alignments, make it make them act really loving weird by mortal standards. Like they were following an inhuman series of taboos that they could not but follow because they don't truly have free will but actually act as avatars of an ill-defined moral concept like D&D Alignment. This does provide a good way to make use of those celestial stat blocks which go unused in so many campaigns. Libertad! fucked around with this message at 06:47 on Jul 15, 2014 |
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Ratpick posted:We should totally get elfgames recognized as a legit sport. elfSports. Sort of related, but someone actually tried to bring a sort of competitive tournament match to Pathfinder with Conflict PvP, a 3rd Party supplement which takes inspiration from competitive MMO games (Deathmatch, Capture the Flag, etc) to apply it to Pathfinder. It even has print-out promotional material in the back to put at your FLGS for groups to run and participate. I don't know how widespread or successful it's been, as I don't really see people talking about this book a lot in PF circles. Libertad! fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Jul 16, 2014 |
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Jul 16, 2014 23:48
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Halloween Jack posted:He's going to see what ENWorld says before going forward, so same result either way. So uh, has EN World changed any since since I made this last post? I mean yeah, there was quite a few bad arguments, but quite a few posters (including Morrus, who struck me as a swell guy) agreed with me about problems in the hobby. If it's still the same, this will probably result in a clusterfuck of people shouting at each other.
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Kai Tave posted:Isn't ENWorld where they had to create a special forum solely for arguing over Damage On A Miss because people were losing their poo poo over it so much? Yup, although that can be a separate issue than "drat feminists ruining everything," even if those two demographics of gamer overlap at times. For example, there's quite a bit of Pathfinder players who love the company's attempts at diversity and inclusion, but are cool with martial nerfs. Although the Paizo boards are a different forum culture, so that might not be the best example.
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I was watching Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert's Star Wars trivia battle, and then I saw the weirdest thing in the YouTube comments:
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One time I was called a Social Justice Warrior despite not aligning with the stereotypical Tumblrite traits ("Kill Whitey!" "TRIGGER WARNING hetero sex," etc). So while I think that bad and ill-informed SJ folk exist, and can be annoying when you run into them, I think that a lot of times people throw it as an insult when someone appears concerned about sexism in geek media or transgender rights in general.
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Jul 19, 2014 01:30
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Plague of Hats posted:Reminder that I'm the Alpha Bizarrely Labeled because I am individually "the RPGnet Crowd" according to GMS. I suppose the irony of that insult is that I never see you post on rpgnet.
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Gau posted:I'd like to share something kinda awesome. There's an LGBT forum I hang out on called Intangibility.org, and they'd be very interested in hearing about this. Is this going to be an online thing? Because if so you should post a link to it once you get the URL.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:So hey any good RPGs that capture that whole 'Arabian nights' thing? I know like, AD&D had a not-Arabia thing and there's Fire and something from the people who did Legend of the Five Rings, but is there anything more? Tales of the Caliphate Nights is a 3rd Party True20 supplement which does a dang good job of weaving in the genre's tropes while teaching players about the Golden Age of Islam. It's a very cool book, and while True20 suffers from some D20isms, it's not as rules-heavy and is more streamlined than 3.5. I haven't run True20 much, but the book makes for some fine reading. I might do a Fatal & Friends on it sometime.
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