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Hey, TACAIR douches, how often do you guys exercise integrating into USN air defense structures? If you have, how similar are Navy and Air Force TTPs and what not? In general, how much do they teach you guys about CSG OPS? I ask because I'm a dork, and routinely read through Weapons School papers and it seems to me that the authors of them are only vaguely aware that the Navy exists at all, let alone how it operates. Edit: I guess ABM nerds can answer the question too. ManMythLegend fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Jul 23, 2014 |
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Jul 23, 2014 22:05
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Godholio posted:
I get that. I guess what I was trying to say is that specifically in papers that deal with integration with Navy assets, a lot of what they are talking about isn't correct.
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Jul 23, 2014 23:14
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krispykremessuck posted:start talking to the authors. get that silver oakleaf or eagle or whatever the gently caress grade you are And sully myself with effort? Get out of my sight you filthy vermin.
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Jul 24, 2014 02:40
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Godholio posted:Ah. Honestly, from what I've seen in the 8th WPS (the C2 squadron of the Weapons School) the trend has finally caught on to send decent human beings who genuinely want to get this poo poo right and aren't afraid to learn. Try emailing them. If any of the wrong stuff was written by a C2 dude you can run the name by me...I know a lot of the guys who've gone through in the past couple of years. Hell, I instructed half of them, which is probably why they're getting poo poo wrong. I'll have to go back and look, but in general it's lots of small stuff spread out across squadrons and papers. The one I saw today that got me thinking about it was from a 15E guy, so I realize that he's kind of out of his element when he's talking about battle space management. Also, I doubt there is any resident USN knowledge out there at the Weapons School so it's probably just guys fumbling around through whatever pubs they can dig up on SIPR. Truly I was just curious how much they teach you guys about how the Navy works given how many eggs are getting put in the Air-Sea Battle basket. I know from my side of the house, we get exactly zero training on how the Air Force does business, but the SWO community in general doesn't even pretend to try and teach real jointness until the senior O4, junior O5 level.
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Jul 24, 2014 02:56
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krispykremessuck posted:well obviously I meant task some ensign with it, jeez are you sure you're an officer Well since you Neanderthals normally operate only at the explicit level of discourse I wasn't expect you to make implicit statements amidst your grunts and smashing of keys.
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Jul 24, 2014 02:59
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krispykremessuck posted:no I speak officer and neanderthal fluently at this point Then it looks like I need to alert your masters.
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Jul 24, 2014 03:18
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Godholio posted:I can only speak to my career field, really, but it's not terribly in-depth. We'd get tactical-level stuff, what we need to know for the mission in question, and some generalities. IE, F-18 intercept timeline, their comm priorities, that kind of thing. Legit joint ops stuff is touched on in PME a little, but again, nothing in depth (it's a waste of time in that environment, anyway). The good stuff comes from actually talking to people from the other services and working with them overseas or in exercises. Although we used to send instructors to the NSAWC course, and they would be the resident experts on naval ops. But we're talking...maybe 3 or 4 people out of five squadrons. A couple of WTI grads, too. I don't recall any Navy folks at the WS any of the times I was there...it seems odd now that I think about it, because AF people teach at NSAWC. I know one that's there now. You're an AWACS type ABM right?
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Jul 24, 2014 03:37
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Helldump Immunity. posted:He is. I get the feeling that you guys are like the SWOs of the Air Force. I know that feel bro. 
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Jul 24, 2014 03:51
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Helldump Immunity. posted:Probably right. I'm unsure though, because as a rule I generally don't like SWOs but you guys seem cool.  
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Jul 24, 2014 04:01
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