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InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
UK goons: this Sunday is the car show in Doncaster organised by the local car club. Usually a good turnout (400 cars last year, and moving from the school playing fields to the racecourse will give them even more space this time), and the only entry rule is "anything interesting", so you get a good mixture of all kinds of things.

Definitely worth going if you're able to get there.

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InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
You still got that tape I sent you in your secret Santa package? Try that, it's strong stuff.

Edit: Oh God, I mean double-sided tape for the plastic panel, not a video tape for the other thing. :gonk:

InitialDave fucked around with this message at 11:32 on Jul 3, 2014

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

some texas redneck posted:

I don't know what I just read, but it left me with a very, very confused boner.
Maybe you'd prefer carstuckboys instead?

IOwnCalculus posted:

They also start the article with "it's so hard to find a stock clean one" and end it with "IT'S SO AWESOME TO MODIFY".
It's the "club that would accept me as member" thing. I like modified cars, but no way would I want to buy an S-chassis from someone who's modified it.

Motronic posted:

Yes, before I knew enough that when I was doing a poo poo job where I wasn't going to deck heads that needed it and didn't use copper spray to make up the difference.
I was once broke enough I put a head back on an engine what had warped (badly enough to crack a cam bearing clamp) with nothing more than a new gasket and a tube of gasket goo. Fucker still ran.

Slow is Fast posted:



Friend just scored that for 1k.

Runs and drives.

Turbo.
:argh:

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
It's largely the change Rover made to the engine design when they took it over, they eliminated one of the four rows of head bolts, making it artificially difficult to get even clamping across the surface. Add borderline cooling systems and get arsey Brummies to nail them together. Then they sold them to trophy wives who think maintenance is what you get paid after your divorce. Later engines are better. Cross-bolted mains, too.

Besides, all-aluminium engines are generally more "fragile" under abuse/neglect than cast iron anchors.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

some texas redneck posted:

e/n for a second, but I'm still fuming about this.
Your boss knew about your plans and agreed to them, shoulda walked and left the assistant to clean up his own mess.

I had one today with a guy getting annoyed with me for saying I wouldn't do a five-minute job for him, because I already had a task for the MD on my plate. His job was important, but no more important that mine, and while it turned out to genuinely be the five-minute job he said it was... They usually mean "one hour plus cocking about time".

Thing is, I was trying to politely say "Sorry, I'm already on something, you need to talk to [MD] if you need me", and he just got irritated because I was being "awkward" about it and was spending more time saying no than it would take to do it anyway. Told him I understood he was under a lot of pressure, but so was I, and he needed to cool it off a bit. Even told him very clearly that I knew he wasn't normally at our site, and I was cutting him a lot of slack because of it.

Anyway, I did do the job, because my senior engineer agreed with him, but I was feeling a little twitchy and wound up. Guy was clearly used to dealing with people who were junior to him, was working on the principle I was, and was spending too much time putting out his own "I'm getting irritated here" warnings to pick up on the fact that I was getting really pissed off with him.

In the interests of keeping the peace, I calmed down after about fifteen minutes and went to him and said sorry, I understand you were stressed, but I am too, and he was cool with it... But I think he genuinely doesn't realise that he was getting close to a proper "who the gently caress do you think you're talking to?" pushback from me, or that he probably wouldn't enjoy it. I don't actually get that cranky with people at work, and tend to be able keep a lid on it if I do, but if you push me hard enough (particularly if you have an "I'm senior and therefore you will do what I say" attitude) and blatantly waltz past many levels of "look, I'd prefer it if we could just be civil" warnings, you'll eventually get an object lesson in why your position in the company means dick-all if you turn the situation into a personal or aggressive one.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
Dogs love trucks!

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

jammyozzy posted:

I gotta stop looking at Clio 172/182's, they're priced juuuuust within reach and somehow more and more keep getting added to my ebay watch list. :ohdear:
Do not buy one that's due for a cambelt/dephaser service!

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Seat Safety Switch posted:

Yeah, those things were all over Florence when we were visiting. I kind of like them, but the side windows are just like soft plastic that you put on with snaps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVw94qT-md4
I think you meant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFcGm6NYayI

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

jammyozzy posted:

Dephasers have such a :techno: name I was almost disappointed to find out it was just the VVT actuator. :(
Expensive specialised service on a fairly cheap car is what it is.

Bulk Vanderhuge posted:

Anyone have any experience working as a parts person for a shop? There's an opening at a heavy diesel outfit and I'm just dying to get out of my current job.
"Get stuff from stock for guys in a workshop" type (reasonable gig) or "deal with public selling parts retail" (oh God please kill me)?

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

blk posted:

I was wondering the other day what an essential AI reading list would look like (besides servie manuals). Post your ideas, I'll start with:

  • Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
  • Shop Class as Soulcraft
  • Carroll Smith's books - old but still relevant.
  • First Overland.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
Looks like I'm one of the people selected by work for a free trip to Farnborough Air Show next week as a rewards/recognition perk. :toot:

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Cage posted:

For those of you that change your own oil, where do you get your oil from? I spend close to $40 to get it done which isnt bad since I need extra oil and I refuse to go to one of those cheap chain shops but Im sure I can spend almost half that if I do it myself.
Wherever has an offer on for decent oil, wherever is cheapest for the "couldn't care less and it's going to fall back out again over the next 500 miles" end of the spectrum.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

kastein posted:

Bare grounds/earths are fine, going to the nearest water pipe was ok in the 50s/70s but is strictly verboten now.

Those look OK. I know the britland electrical system is some goofy rear end "make a big loop around the entire building, fuse the plugs on the devices not the circuit" system that makes absolutely no sense to me but 3 cables into a box is no big deal here in the US.
You do have fuses/breakers on each circuit as well as on the plug. Also, ring mains are a pretty sensible idea, if you think about it in terms of trying to do the job with as little wiring as possible - it came about as a standard after WW2, so there was something of a lack of copper. And you know what happens with standards once they're well dug-in and widely used.

What I suspect you're looking at here is a socket on a ring with an additional spur coming off.

Also, you're right about the bare earth wiring being an older thing - those are old wiring colours, so it's probably like that originally. You can get some earth sleeving for pennies if you want to fit it.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

kastein posted:

Ahh, the way I heard it put was that the entire house was one circuit for receptacles, not that there would be multiple circuits. I'm not sure how you save copper by wiring all the way around and then back to the breaker again, but I'm probably misunderstanding something.
You usually have a lighting ring and sockets ring on each floor at a minimum, plus separate wiring for cookers and the like.

It saves copper because, based on the theory you don't pull full load from every socket at once, so rather than having separate radial wiring to each one (which must have the full current capacity), you instead have a "clockwise" and "anticlockwise" path to each socket, and therefore can spread the load between the two halves. A valid criticism of the design is that a break in the ring is effectively undetectable, but can lose this redundancy to multiple sockets, making it easy to overload the circuit.

Are the savings in mass of copper used relatively minor? Yes, but if you're building and wiring more than a million houses following a very materials-hungry war, it adds up.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
I think Rhyno's clientele will easily out-weird hers. And be less capable of acting like a human around a woman.

InitialDave fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Jul 14, 2014

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
I just read this on Jalopnik:

http://jalopnik.com/the-feds-just-seized-40-land-rovers-imported-to-the-u-s-1605985758

Now, I can fully understand that there is an issue with something like a Landie being able to be artificially aged to meet the age requirement for importation... But on the other hand, you can just as easily make a 30-year-old one into something that could have rolled out the factory yesterday.

Leaving aside the nonsensical nature of the laws in question, and the issue of the owners they have been seized from not actually having been the ones who imported them... Do they actually have anyone who knows these things (and I mean who knows them) well enough to be able to actually make the call on what they're really looking at?

Phone posted:

I wouldn't want to be the guy who cut his weekend short because I have no brake pads.
I'd just stick the spare set of pads in my tools/spares kit.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

leica posted:

And then have to wait until your hot brakes cool of to work on them? I'd just throw a set of good pads on to begin with, cheap and easy insurance that your expensive track day doesn't get shortened because of stock pads. I'm sure in some cases stock would be fine but if you're spending money on a track day why not just take the extra precaution.
Because having a fresh replacement component on hand guarantees your current one will last forever.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
Paging Cakefool:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Alvis-Sta...=item27e7119fff

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Google Butt posted:

How long did it take you guys to get comfortable wrenching under a car on jackstands? I'm pretty new to working on my own poo poo and it's weird.
Before getting under it, have a concentrated attempt to push it off them. Always make sure it's securely supported.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Cakefool posted:

So what type of stand should I be using?
I use these:
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/cax-6tbc-6-ton-axle-stands

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Rhyno posted:

I think head-squisher was using a hi-lift with not jack stands.
Yes, I think so. It was I Ate Jesus with his Toyota.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Tusen Takk posted:

So I assume he is dead huh
Well, he lived long enough to post about the incident, but I don't think we've heard from him in quite a while.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

thegasman2000 posted:

So my dd Peugeot 306 estate hdi poo poo the bed yesterday... Horrible death rattle and is coming from the cam / cam belt area. Smoke coming from that side and loss of power and power steering intermittently... Yeah this thing is probably toast.

Had a better look and the can belt is strong enough and taught so not tensioner. Suspect the cam bearings.
Check your alernator etc isn't seized - that would cause some interesting noises from the belt being forced to slip, possibly generate smoke, and almost certainly make the PS pump only function intermittently.

Doubt you'll be that lucky, but worth a look.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

thegasman2000 posted:

So my DD died. It was the cam pulley and probably the cam bearings, and not worth doing. So she will be scrapped tomorrow. I may have a deal on a 1994 Peugeot 106 Roland Garos special edition. Its got a great interior and the exterior is great apart from the lacquer peel. Its a puny 1.4l but cheap and actually pretty fun to drive, no power steering or brakes for me. I will contact the scrappy and see if he has anything else available though.
Ah well, it would have been nice if it'd been something simple.

You sure it's not worth doing an engine swap if the car is otherwise ok?

Failing that, echoing Stump - a 1.4 in a 106 will shift just fine, and they handle pretty nicely in that "low spec French car" kind of way (don't worry about the body roll, just stick it in and keep your foot down).

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

SEKCobra posted:

Can someone explain the differences between drum and disc brakes to me?
How much detail do you need?

A disc brake is a metal disc that rotates with the wheel, and is clamped by a hydraulic calliper with friction pads (bolted to the suspension) to slow the vehicle.



A drum brake is a shallow drum (like a cake tin) which is again attached so as to rotate with the wheel, and this time the friction pads are inside it, pushed out to hit the inside wall of the drum, again by hydraulics.

InitialDave fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Jul 20, 2014

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

SEKCobra posted:

Sorry I didnt mean how they work, I knew that, I mean more like pricing/longeivity/brakeing power
Ok, this is where it gets a little more complicated.

Short "lies to children*" answers:
- Disc brakes are generally cheaper to make nowadays, largely through economies of scale, and use less material. However, if you need a handbrake mechanism in the assembly, a drum brake is cheaper to incorporate this into, hence why you still see rear drums on budget stuff

- Generally, a disc pad doing the same amount of work is going to last longer than a drum shoe (this is what the friction pads in a drum are called). They are generally much thicker, and better cooling helps them last longer.

- A drum can actually have a lot of power. Your braking surface is as far out as it can be from the centre of the axle for a given diameter of fitment, and this leverage really helps. This is especially true if you have twin leading shoes, which is where you design the hydraulics such that the leading edge of both brake shoes is pushed out to the surface when activated, giving more bite.
HOWEVER, braking generates heat, and that heat has trouble escaping a drum brake, meaning they rapidly go over their functional temperature and lose power - a disc brake of the same diameter, though perhaps fractionally less powerful at first, perfect activation, will remain more powerful for a hell of a lot longer.






*This is not intended to be insulting, it's actually something Terry Pratchett mentions in his Science Of Discworld books - in order to explain things plainly and quickly, you have to say things that are maybe not quite true, but will suffice to answer the question at hand.

InitialDave fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Jul 20, 2014

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

thegasman2000 posted:

The rest of the car doesnt warrant a new motor...

The pug is fast and fun as poo poo to drive. 3 doors is a pain with kids but it was cheap and will do for now.
Aye, small, light, relatively low-powered cheap cars are where it's at for sheer fun on the road. Mainly chasing cars you have absolutely no business trying to keep up with, smoking into roundabouts way too fast, aimed at the kerb and using the understeer to drift you on the right line out the other side, ditch-hooking left-hand turns on country lanes and scraping up the front wing with the hedge because you don't give a poo poo...

And yet never managing to break the speed limit.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
Well, at least your new car has an obvious nickname:

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Cat Terrist posted:

I just prefer the "Discs are loving awesome, drums are loving pieces of poo poo to be avoided at all costs" explanation.
Come round my house and try bleeding through series 3 109 front brakes. You think you hate drums now...

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Tomarse posted:

The brakes on a 101 are worse to bleed. Like a 109, but there's also a weight controlled valve in the line to the back in addition to the shuttle valve in the front.
...and a nice, almost-unique axle setup that makes doing a disc swap a complete pain in the balls. You have my sympathy. :suicide:

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Cat Terrist posted:

I just plain refuse to use or to pretend to understand anything not metric when some idiot speaks on moon units here.... only 45 years after the conversion to metric.
Our conversion to metric is largely a forced one. Most people think in imperial units.

I can switch between either at will, pretty much. Most aero-engine stuff has a hell of a lot of imperial dimensioning going on, so it makes sense to just think in inches. Same with old cars. I don't understand how people can't.

A mildly unusual one is that I find centimetres to be stupid and pointless. Something is either small enough to measure in millimetres, or big enough to measure in metres. They serve no useful purpose for me.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

neckbeard posted:

Someone had posted a clean R32 GT-R in the Awesome poo poo thread and I was wondering do you guys in the US get the R32s now that they're 25 years old, or are they still banned from the whole Motorex fiasco?
Jalopnik has had a couple of articles on people who have imported them straight through with no attempts to falsify the declaration of anything, so I'm going to say yes.

What interested me was that at least one of them was able to import a car that wasn't technically old enough yet (October '89 car imported in January '14). Guess it must be a fairly broad brush for the age determination.

Edit: beaten by Rhyno on the Jalopnik thing.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
How does the property tax work on that?

Over here, I'd likely have to pay commercial rates (effectively based on the potential rental value of the property), which absolutely murders you on buying a big old warehouse to use as a toy box.

Though I think places of religious worship are exempt. Pile of burnt valves and warped heads in the corner? No sir, not a scrap pile, those are sacrificial offerings to the God of Speed (and Class, of course).

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

some texas redneck posted:

gently caress it, might as well bare my soul. Did it on reddit anyway.

Drinking poo poo is way out of control, enough that I need inpatient detox (this sounds familiar). I'm waiting for the place that I spent 30 days at several years ago to call me back about my insurance and upfront costs. If that doesn't work out, have a couple of other calls out to other inpatient places.

This time, my insurance very much does cover inpatient detox and rehab, it's just a matter of seeing how much of an upfront payment they want, and figuring out how I'm gonna get there.
I'm not one to give someone poo poo for their mistakes, or choices in life in general, but really? loving Reddit? Stay off that poo poo, man.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

bend posted:

Mining update:
Down in the first layer of wash about 4 1/2 feet and starting to get 2-5 mm chunks of gold in the sluice. gently caress yeah!. found a little creek over the back too, got about 8 foot of bank with a couple of pickers in every pan. Not sure it counts as a job yet, but if this keeps up I'll have a car again by the end of next month easy.
Don't forget to be inside by dark. Did you buid a crafting table yet?

The Midniter posted:

I can't believe I'm reading about someone who is literally panning for gold to get by in TYOOL 2014. It is surreal and amazing.
Also this.

Good luck to you, frankly. If you can make money directly from your own physical effort on your own land, have at it.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
I'm waiting for the posts to start talking about moving in next to Mr Drysdale and trying to find a suitable fella for Elly May.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

bend posted:

Wrong country. You can keep your hillbillies to yourself, we have enough trouble with bogan infestations.
Oh, they're not my hillbillies. :smug:

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
Yeah, AFAIK Moog over here is the same Federal-Mogul sub-brand as in the US. No idea why there would be a noticeable pricing discrepancy, but I founf the same thing with performance brake pads for my Subaru.

Are you sure they're exactly the same part numbers?

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
Scrapping a car doesn't cost money unless you're easily taken in by the "Ah, well, not much call for scrap these days, guv, not really worth my time coming out..." spiel. If I take a car two miles down the road to a local yard, I can expect about £100 per ton at the moment.

However, yes, a running, MOT'd car (so legal to use on paper, if not in reality, depending how bad it's got since that MOT test) has a certain minimum "floor" value, if only because you could drive it striaght to said scrapyward.

Basically, the new and used car markets are completely different in the UK and US. The UK is noticeably more expensive for new vehicles, but our used prices are a lot lower. You could maybe argue the higher ownership costs of cars here (fuel etc) allow people to accept higher depreciation? I don't know what causes it specifically, it's probably quite complex, but why doesn't matter, it just is.

Also, Miatas/MX-5s have the artificial boost that we have been able to import JDM cars and parts since launch with minimal difficulty.

I think the average American would be amazed at the selection of cars you can get here for $500-$1000. They may not be particularly exciting, but they're probably all there and working, and will remain so for a long time.

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InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

leica posted:

Initial part numbers are different, but the related numbers in "{}" after are the same.

How different could they be? Maybe the threads possibly?
Cheap chinese poo poo versus genuine article.

If it's a Moog K9908 in both cases, for instance, fair enough. If it's the same OE-number compatible, though, I'd be more careful.


Nodoze posted:

I got some vinyl at Joanne fabrics, going to see how well that holds up with some goop holding it on. I just need it to hold me over the winter I guess, then I'll use tax money to get a new one




Nidhg00670000 posted:

Having a MOT or eqv also ensures that most deathtraps are less deathrappy than their US eqv. A car can only get so much worse in one year. Unless you commit outright fraud...
Case in point, my Disco.

It's not normally a "duplicate car" fraud, more normally a "mate wot has a garage" fraud.

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