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McDowell posted:Bernie Sanders / Henry Rollins 2016 If this happens the official VP song needs to be rise above. Comedy answer would be police story.
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Jul 6, 2014 19:07
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Still waiting for my dream of a Jill Stein VP & Al Franken Prez ticket. How could anyone not vote Franken/Stein 2016?  The ads write themselves. Franken/Stein - Bringing the America Dream back to life. The campaign imagery would be wondrous. Would that we lived in the best of all possible realities rather than this one. 
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Jul 6, 2014 19:50
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Best of all possible realities? Sorry, my vote goes to a Krugman/Chomsky 'Social Democrat Party' dream ticket  gently caress the two party system. Too bad I can't vote since I'm Canadian. PoizenJam fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Jul 6, 2014 |
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Jul 6, 2014 20:09
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Quantum Mechanic posted:Ronald Reagan existed, hence Obama cannot be the worst president since WW2. and George W Bush
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Jul 6, 2014 20:36
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Ogmius815 posted:Wait what's wrong with light rail? What's wrong with a 300 mile rail trip? That's only a little longer than the NY /Boston Amtrak route and I do that all the time. Jesus people 's expectations in this country are warped. If nothing else I'd much rather someone else do the driving. I love public transit even before we get into the economics and logistics.
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Jul 6, 2014 20:48
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:Light rail means "not freight" aka humans which necessarily includes high-speed service. The particular route you're referring to has had high-speed proposals written for it for some time now. I think Light-Rail has a different meaning depending on where you're living. In Phoenix, Light rail refers to this kind of tram:  I'm all for a high-speed passenger line between the two metro areas, that'd be smart.
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Jul 6, 2014 20:53
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I think Light-Rail has a different meaning depending on where you're living. In Phoenix, Light rail refers to this kind of tram: They built that right outside my apartment complex when I was in university! 
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Jul 6, 2014 20:54
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FADEtoBLACK posted:So is the next pres honestly still in the air or is it just going to be Hillary? She's not going to able to shake the right's plastering of Benghazi all over her.
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Jul 6, 2014 21:23
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Does mentioning Benghazi actually accomplish anything other than giving old white men hate boners? I thought they went to the well to many times with that on Obama and people had got tired of hearing about it.
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Jul 6, 2014 21:29
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Nessus posted:The real compromise would've been if he'd immediately stepped down and apologized for being so uppity as to win the election as a Democrat and then shuffled back off to Chicago, at which point the RNC appoints the new president and the rightful rulership of the nation is restored. A white dude wouldn't have made much difference to the right wing media or the politicians. However the fact that Obama's black is probably the main fuel of the crazy fire that is consuming the base. I remember that the Republican base hated Clinton, but not with the zeal that they currently hate Obama. Clinton was a slimy crook, Obama is a traitorous sleeper agent come to destroy America. Talk Radio and the rest of the media apparatus were then driven further into crazy town because their audience was freaking out. Usually it's the media apparatus that has to churn up the anger, but they found their audience already at full boil. As a result the politicians were driven further into crazy town by both their media and their base. Once the RINO hunts started we were already in a positive feedback loop. Dr. Arbitrary posted:To be fair, there's a crazy portion on the left too. I read a Facebook post by a congresswoman in my state about the I-11 project to build an interstate between Phoenix and Vegas. The only crazy I see here is the idea of spending millions/billions to like two such monuments to man's arrogance.
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Jul 6, 2014 21:35
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Cabbit posted:Does mentioning Benghazi actually accomplish anything other than giving old white men hate boners? I thought they went to the well to many times with that on Obama and people had got tired of hearing about it. You know what I don't think it even matters. To the average person, the thing they think of when Clinton is mentioned is going to be Benghazi. And then she has to explain it. By that point, it's already too late.
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Jul 6, 2014 21:36
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They might ask her about Vince Foster next 
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Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:They might ask her about Vince Foster next And about throwing lamps at Bill! 
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Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:They might ask her about Vince Foster next Actually it's hilarious how Hillary Clinton gave up her position as the lightning rod of the right immediately after Obama became president. It's almost as if everybody forgot the 90's after they had a black man to hate.
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Jul 6, 2014 21:42
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:To be fair, there's a crazy portion on the left too. I read a Facebook post by a congresswoman in my state about the I-11 project to build an interstate between Phoenix and Vegas. Rails are superior to highways for a ton of reasons and the US needs to get over its car boner hth
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A Winner is Jew posted:If this happens the official VP song needs to be rise above. Comedy answer would be police story. Parallel universe with infinite boners
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Jul 6, 2014 21:52
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Helpimscared posted:and George W Bush 
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Jul 6, 2014 21:58
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Urdnot Fire posted:New poll unanimously declares Mr. Obama worst president since Bush, pack it in liberals But who was polled? The south? or the whole country? Helpimscared fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Jul 6, 2014 |
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Jul 6, 2014 22:00
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Cabbit posted:Does mentioning Benghazi actually accomplish anything other than giving old white men hate boners? I thought they went to the well to many times with that on Obama and people had got tired of hearing about it. People have certainly been fatigued by it, but that was only their first attempt to tar her with it. Some of the tactics used are instructive for where it'll be headed when it truly reappears. Tactic 1: Repeat story frequently enough that more credible news sources will have to pick up on it (see: ACORN. There's wonderful stories about the NYT and other outlets sitting on the stories because it looked like a wisp of smoke was being presented as a forest fire. Turns out there wasn't even smoke). Tactic 2: Begin presenting extremely implausible counterfactuals to actual action taken that seem credible at first blush (airlifting the only security forces in the country out of the actual embassy to a city featuring mortar attacks and roadblocks) Tactic 3: Use respectable-seeming sources within credible news organizations to push this narrative-usually involving an entertaining, compelling and easily digested story (60 Minutes) Tactic 4: Issue quiet retraction when story winds up being complete horseshit, don't take responsibility for complete journalistic failings. September 2016 will be 15 years past 9/11, far enough away from it that Fox won't be pilloried by their loyal viewers for ignoring that anniversary so they can do a "retrospective" on Benghazi featuring a ton of "Some claim" statements- "Some claim these casualties could have been prevented if decisive action had been taken", "some claim that the administration withheld the truth for political gain", "some claim that Hillary covered up what actually happened so she could run this year, thus preventing the families from ever getting closure", "some claim that obfuscation and obstruction are the reasons that the dozens of meetings to investigate this by the Honorable Darrell Issa and House Republicans ended without ever bringing anyone to justice for these failures", etc. Combining that 2 hour special with a broad series of Swiftboat-esque ads will create a huge headache for Hillary, and with the time elapsed it'll be more difficult to find people willing to speak on or off record about what actually occurred that day, since it'll mean defending just Hillary as opposed to their coworkers/supervisors/friends at State alongside her. Gyges posted:I remember that the Republican base hated Clinton, but not with the zeal that they currently hate Obama. Clinton was a slimy crook, Obama is a traitorous sleeper agent come to destroy America. Talk to me when we get congressmen destroying watermelons in their back yard to prove that Barack and Michelle murdered a political rival. This is the other side of the availability heuristic-people tend to forget how badly hated the Clintons actually were... and that's people on both sides of the aisle forgetting. Your crazier elements of the base that we tend to connect most tightly with racial animus towards Obama (especially militia movements) are still practically asleep compared to how they were when Clinton was in charge. That's not to say Obama isn't hated, that there isn't some racial animus there (I think D&D tends to impart it on a wider scale than it actually is, but it certainly is a major factor in internal GOP politics, which is a factor dragging everything further to the right and preventing cooperation/exacerbating brinksmanship) or that there isn't time for him to catch up with Bill as far as being despised-but through six years the zeal simply isn't there compared to Clinton.
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Jul 6, 2014 22:01
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New poll declares Obama the most born in Kenya president. Because polls decide things like that, right?
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Helpimscared posted:
I'm pretty sure any group you poll is going to tell you Obama is the worst president since (George W.) Bush.
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Jul 6, 2014 22:08
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Ankle-biter posted:PHOTOS: Obama's biggest White House 'fails'
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Did nobody else catch this in the OP? It's a copy and paste from The Moonie Times, what do you expect?
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Jul 6, 2014 22:10
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:
Red state voters in a nutshell. As hysterical as puritans hunting for witches. In a way it isn't their fault - those regions are drowning in right wing extremist propaganda.
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Jul 6, 2014 22:16
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Oh my god that slideshow, the first one is Obama bumping his head entering Air Force one while waving and it just gets better from there.
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Jul 6, 2014 22:18
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Arkane posted:NSA? Economy? Right track/wrong track? Inability to pass legislation? Foreign policy? The inability to pass legislation is all on Congress. Sorry you're not aware of the process a bill takes to become law.
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Jul 6, 2014 22:28
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Oh my god that slideshow, the first one is Obama bumping his head entering Air Force one while waving and it just gets better from there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no0e-mkhhbs
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Jul 6, 2014 22:29
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Vladimir Putin posted:You know what I don't think it even matters. To the average person, the thing they think of when Clinton is mentioned is going to be Benghazi. And then she has to explain it. By that point, it's already too late. I don't know about that. As of late Benghazi has been tied solely to Obama, I haven't heard Clinton mentioned in ages. This is of course ignoring the fact that Benghazi is not actually a scandal outside of the Right wing media bubble.
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Jul 6, 2014 22:46
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I have no love at all for Democratic Mitt Romney, but Benghazi is a non-factor at this point.
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Jul 6, 2014 22:51
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Vladimir Putin posted:She's not going to able to shake the right's plastering of Benghazi all over her. Oh no, now Republicans might not vote for her.
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Jul 6, 2014 23:09
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I'd vote for Hillary just for the Supreme Court judges. The next president will probably replace RBG and at least one of Scalia/Kennedy, possibly both. Hillary isn't really my favorite politician but she will appoint people better than any republican would.
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Jul 6, 2014 23:33
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I unironically want her to appoint Obama to the Supreme Court if she wins. The rage and the tears from Freep would be worth it.
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Jul 6, 2014 23:44
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Alter Ego posted:I unironically want her to appoint Obama to the Supreme Court if she wins. The rage and the tears from Freep would be worth it. I'm pretty sure they have to be vetted and approved by Congress, right?
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Jul 6, 2014 23:47
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Who What Now posted:I'm pretty sure they have to be vetted and approved by Congress, right? Considering that 2016 is slated to be a very good year for congressional Democrats (all those Tea Party nutbars have to defend their seats), we could theoretically get the perfect storm. And Obama can hardly be disqualified on the basis of "is he qualified"--the man will have served 8 years as President of the United States. The move isn't without precedent, either.
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I thought they just had to be approved by a (now) simple majority in the Senate; I remember hearing Republicans howling about Kagan in 2010, but she's still on. Even if the GOP got the senate this November, they'd probably lose it again in 2016. Jerry Manderbilt fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Jul 6, 2014 |
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Who What Now posted:I'm pretty sure they have to be vetted and approved by Congress, right? Yes but it's unlikely Obama wouldn't be approved. Want to see McCain vote for him.
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Who What Now posted:I'm pretty sure they have to be vetted and approved by Congress, right? Just the Senate.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I think Light-Rail has a different meaning depending on where you're living. In Phoenix, Light rail refers to this kind of tram: Tram refers to urban light rail; streetcars and low-speed things like that. The "light" part refers to not carrying freight - freight or "heavy" rail is by far the most common type of line, so when people just say rail that's generally what they're referring to. Kajeesus posted:Rails are superior to highways for a ton of reasons and the US needs to get over its car boner hth You'll be happy to know that there's been a push for a few years now to build out light rail in urban areas. Minneapolis, New Orleans, and the SF Bay Area are a few good examples that I've seen firsthand (I actually helped design some the New Orleans work last year for Phase Two of the streetcar expansion). The driving motivations behind this appear to be attempts to increase suburb and exurb property values, and improving tourism. It also helps that local funds for these projects are currently being supplemented by the Feds. Thanks Obama!
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Urdnot Fire posted:New poll unanimously declares Mr. Obama worst president since Bush, pack it in liberals September 12th, 2009 was a good day to celebrate the new president breaking the old record of "most days without a terrorist attack."
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