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gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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Damage is done. Drake has writers that pen entire verses for his hit songs. That may not matter to you but it does to many.

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gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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Yuzenn posted:

In the scheme of things this won't matter in the least. Drake makes good music and trying to throw shade at him because he is effeminate and soft isn't new and doesn't seem to slow down or stop his popularity at all. It's not like Meek is 50 and Drake is Benzino or Game or some other semi fringe artist.

Meek made a bad look by dissing someone who just appeared on his album, and by that aspect alone made the project more popular and helped in sales. Meek is a very replaceable artist, but Drake is pretty unique and one of the hottest artists around.

Basically Meek dun goofed, even considering Drake put out that wack rear end diss track in response. (Seriously did he call that track Charged Up??? It couldn't have a slower and boring beat going with it....)

So does Diddy, and Dr. Dre but nobody considers them lyricists. He can be a hit maker all he wants but the conversation of top new school rappers will be between J. Cole and Kendrick Lamar. Drake is disqualified and relegated to just another pop music act.

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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EATIN SHRIMP posted:

Meek Mill is an embarrassment to hip hop

Not that I dissagree but Drake was just exposed for using unknown rappers bars whole sale. How do we even know if he wrote Back to Back? (It was a good diss) I say strip his of his titles like Lace Armstrong.

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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temple posted:

Drake credited Miller on 10 Bands so there is no ghost writing about it. Miller's explanation is kinda rational, he imitated Drakes style and finished a verse. Drake had worked on the tape/album and Miller was support.

Not that I love Drake or anything but I hate how black and white the ghost writing topic is. After Nas got exposed I had to change my opinion.

You are putting words in Q. Millers mouth. He skated around the subject of the debth of his contribution. The only eveidence is the reference track for 10 Bands that has Miller rapping the hook and 95% of the lyrical content of the first verse. No one is saying that Drake wrote what we heard.

Nas got exposed? I read the Stic.Man article and in no way did the Dead Prez collaboration on Untitled even remotely resemble this.

gohmak fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Jul 29, 2015

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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EATIN SHRIMP posted:

He hasn't responded to drake that's all I mean

He is taking some brutal hits on social media. I wonder what is holding him back. I don't have high hopes for a the quality of a Meek response but his diss to Cassidy was atleast interesting.

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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vanbags posted:

Rap beefs have been ingrained in the culture since its inception.

I'd rather continue having moments like this in this beautiful culture I love.

Is that exactly what Wayne and Baby are doing?

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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Q. Miller RICO
https://soundcloud.com/djfunkflexapp/sets/quintin-miller-drake-reference-tracks

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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Q. Miller Used To
https://soundcloud.com/djfunkflexapp/quentin-miller-used-to-drake

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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https://soundcloud.com/djfunkflexapp/meek-mill-feat-quentin-miller-wanna-know-prod-by-jahlil-beats-swizz-beatz

unedited diss

"Came in with the same flow, switchin up the lingo
we just want a refund, this aint what we paid for"

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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"I just wanna know if you ain't wrote that running through the 6 poo poo
who was Quinten running through the 6 with?"

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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All said and done, Drake's battle rap ghostwriter >>> Meek Mill

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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I AM BRAWW posted:

Why does Meek Mill sound like he just got his tooth pulled out, his mouth is swollen and he's on various painkillers?

About on par with every other mush mouthed drill/trap rapper

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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Dexo posted:

I dunno, I mean Drake's song was better, but like Drake has ghostwriters so I hope his poo poo is good. Notice how Drake specifically didn't say poo poo about getting called out about not writing his own music. He changed it to be focused on Meek and Nikki, and how successful he is.

He drat near admitted to it when he said "This for y'all who think that I don't write enough".

Enough?

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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If you aren't bothered by the ghostwriting then Meek lost from the beginning anyway. Not great but a solid rebuttal.

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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Bolded are the straight up copied lyrics by Drake. The rest are copied flow and cadence with changed lyrics.


Old ways, new women, gotta keep a balance
The girl of your dreams to me is probably not a challenge

I've been counted out so many times, I couldn't count it
Funny how now my accountant is havin' trouble tryna count it
To the people that think that I owe you poo poo
Payback's a bitch and you know that poo poo
Y'all niggas gettin' too old for this
Please don't think nobody notices
I've been up for way too many days
Y'all sleeping off of me anyway

Y'all don't be doin' poo poo anyway
Y'all are not true to this anyway
OVO, East End, Reps Up, we might just get hit with the R.I.C.O
Everyone home for the summer, so let's not do nothing illegal
I go make 50 million then I give some millions to my people
They gon' go Tony Montana and cop them some Shaq at the free throws
But they're from the way fam, there's not much to say fam
They told me to tell you you mans are some wastemans
And stay in your place fam
My dad is from Memphis, and I am the king
I should probably just move in to Graceland
Madonna’s a ting I know and I’m the king of pop
I’m building Never-Never Land
How he hate me when I never met the man
Woo! We might just get hit with the R.I.C.O

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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"OB my brother" as in OB O'Brien, Drakes OVO artist and well known long time friend and fellow Torontonian. Why would an unknown rapper from Atlanta go way back with OB unless he's supposed to be writing from the perspective of Drake?

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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Tremendous Taste posted:

I don't think anyone with a brain actually thinks drake is writing his verses

Yeah but this busts the theory that QM is paid to spit a flow on a beat to inspire Drake but Drake ended up cribing whole lines and flows. If he's rapping from the perspective of Drake he is a ghostwriter not a "collaborator."

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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alansmithee posted:

Nobody loving cares. Rap dudes dgaf about Drake anyways so it doesn't matter to them if he's not writing poo poo. And as long as he can sing along to whatever words are being written for him and look pretty the women and children who make up Drake's fanbase don't care either. It's not like pop music has any consideration for authenticity or w/e. He's an actor, nobody cares.

And Meek looks like a goddamn clown, because this all started for nothing, and he went at dude in like the most irrelevant way possible. Everyone who cares about rap already knew he's 10x the rapper Drake is, so he's not making new fans, but he's probably losing some being a national punchline. I mean Drake got loving roughed up by Puffy, how you not gonna roast on him endlessly for that?

appearantly pissed on by one of TI's weed carriers too.

https://twitter.com/JuliaBeverly

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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running through the six like a commode.

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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Can someone explain the Jordan crying meme?

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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monkeu posted:

I'm not sure how you could feel disrespected by someone who's done you a solid by even appearing on your album in the first place.

He explained it in the diss.

"came through with the same flow switching up the lingo,
we just want a refund, that ain't what we paid for."

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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EATIN SHRIMP posted:

How do you feel about Dr Dre and Kanye West?

Hurt about Kanye but Dr. Dre is a producer not an MC.

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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ol yeller posted:

this is a good way to get me to disregard your opinion (although i agree about the second half)

Pretty much

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SKttg6YVtI

Complex doing some actually music journalism.

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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Lupe was gonna give him that work

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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Lupe Fiasco Pharaoh Hight 2/30

https://soundcloud.com/lupefiasco/1-in
https://soundcloud.com/lupefiasco/2-valleys
https://soundcloud.com/lupefiasco/3-of
https://soundcloud.com/lupefiasco/4-kings
https://soundcloud.com/lupefiasco/5-pyramid
https://soundcloud.com/lupefiasco/6-schemes
In The Valley Of Kings Lies Pyramid Schemes

gohmak fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Aug 30, 2015

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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Radio Spiricom posted:

futures autotune stuff always seemed more in line with dancehall like mavado or kartel to me than a lot of the rap stuff people tend to cite

but yea there are plenty of songs on his earlier mixtapes where his flow is more than just autotune warbles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOBL9cj-G74
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmD9dT9McR8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyhT40wOfZk

who cares tho autotune warbles loving own

So basically Gucci.

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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TPAB and Tetsuo & Youth are classics on par with many 90s greats. They may not have the cultural penetration but lyrically, structurally and sonically drat near perfect albums.

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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funky not a junkie posted:

tetsuo and youth was really really boring though

The music is in a good place right now. It's the fans that loving suck.

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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I'm gonna check out that Vince Staples but T&Y still gets rotation in my car and I can't remember an album in a long time that got this much burn. B4DA$$ gets high marks as well.

gohmak fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Oct 9, 2015

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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All this proves is Ferg is the loving man

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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abraham linksys posted:

I continue to be excited about this Le1f album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qt6eFShFfc

Is this that gay rapper that Macklemore ripped off?

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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This Friday

https://www.instagram.com/p/BKBylGhAkPP/

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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So I never would've checked for no Young Thug if it wasn't for the faggy dress but every drat song on No, My Name is Jefferey absolutely go.

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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monkeu posted:

Whatchu saying about the dress?!

That if he wasn't sporting them fleek threads I wouldn't have checked for this lit rear end tape. Is that better?

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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Challenge. Dress in Kente cloth.

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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Good music said gently caress backpack we are going all in with trap huh.

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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blue squares posted:

Is it okay to ask for recommendations in this thread? I'm looking for women whose rap has a good social message and sounds awesome.

I'm listening to the Miseducation of Lauryn Hill right now.

Lady Leshurr has bars but your not going to find many current rappers period with socially redeeming music.

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
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Dexo posted:

Kylie: Hey Kim I know your husband is a rapper and producer that has his own record label do you think you could have him listen to my boyfriend's mixtape and maybe sign him to a deal.


It's the rapper family version of that annoying cousin who is always trying to get people to listen to their mixtape.


Known Backback rappers Pusha T, and Travis Scott. Also Kanye hasn't been a backpack rapper since like Late Registration


And are we really acting like Jeezy didn't release one of his better albums like like a year or so with Seen It All?

I just want some Common, CyHi or Conse please.

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Feb 12, 2004
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Quantum of Phallus posted:

CyHi got kicked out of GOOD I think. He released a Kanye diss track on soundcloud....

Naw checked his twitter. He is still Quentin Miller status I believe.

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