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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice
pretty much

we gave our production guys a choice and half of them are transitioning to our windows workstations instead of loving around with the 'literally a macbook air' imacs or mac pros

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hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

api call girl posted:

what i'm saying is

if i flick that checkbox on our mac build

it caches that user's login credentials like you would expect a windows laptop to do by default on our ms domain

that's how we preconfigure our mbps for the handful of people that have them

we don't have an os x server on this side of the firewall

yeah, you're right, i had thought that it never worked right if you didn't have an apple directory or openldap/other ldapv3 server

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
active directory is ldap

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

api call girl posted:

what i'm saying is

if i flick that checkbox on our mac build

it caches that user's login credentials like you would expect a windows laptop to do by default on our ms domain

that's how we preconfigure our mbps for the handful of people that have them

we don't have an os x server on this side of the firewall

yeah, it does that here, but we can't control the expiry date (or there's some CLI wizardry on some deep buried com.apple.plist somewhere)

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
lol. nice Linux u got there.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Shaggar posted:

active directory is ldap

i figured you'd be a novell fan, what with their love of java and everything

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
just because I like java doesn't mean I like bad software written in java.

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice

graph posted:

yeah, it does that here, but we can't control the expiry date (or there's some CLI wizardry on some deep buried com.apple.plist somewhere)

ah I get you

the cache expiry is something we haven't really ended up caring about

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

api call girl posted:

the cache expiry is something we haven't really ended up caring about

yeah :(

hardwire macs are fine and work fuckin awesome but god drat i wish this could get loving sorted

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
write a script that runs at boot that reads the gpos applied to the machine and then sets the equivalent Linux settings.

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002

SO DEMANDING posted:

people are flocking to iPhones...which they use to check their email from an exchange server. iPads are also popular...and are being used to check email on an exchange server and as dumb terminals using poo poo like citrix. and anyone who does anything even remotely important is still using office

i mean yeah ok microsoft has made some terrible loving decisions and hilarious fuckups over the last few years, but ultimately they are still absolutely enormous in the enterprise and it will take many many more years of constant fuckups and bad decisions to seriously erode that market share

if ballmer was still at them helm, yeah i could see that happening, but now i think theres a chance microsoft will pull some of its hydra-like heads out of its rear end and realize that enterprise is where they excel (hah) and make money, while consumer poo poo is just not a strong point worth pursuing

yeah

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

cached credentials never expire apparently, goes for windows ad and ldap

so... idk

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?
i can't even imagine working at a place that doesn't provide me with a Mac. like how would that even work? you'd show up on the first day and they take you to your office and you'd say "looks like the previous tenant forgot to take his piece of poo poo dell with him" and your new boss would smile nervously and say "we asked our computer janitors for the Mac we promised you and they said no". so now what? do you stick around for lunch or just quit right there?

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

The Management posted:

i can't even imagine working at a place that doesn't provide me with a Mac. like how would that even work? you'd show up on the first day and they take you to your office and you'd say "looks like the previous tenant forgot to take his piece of poo poo dell with him" and your new boss would smile nervously and say "we asked our computer janitors for the Mac we promised you and they said no". so now what? do you stick around for lunch or just quit right there?
well if they can't afford to buy u a Mac they sure as poo poo ain't catering ur lunch. hope u brought an brown bag from home

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?
it's not about affording, it's about being told by CJs that you can only use what makes their job the easiest instead of what makes your job the easiest. first sign of a broken company.

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

The Management posted:

it's not about affording, it's about being told by CJs that you can only use what makes their job the easiest instead of what makes your job the easiest. first sign of a broken company.

lol

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
people like macs because they think it makes them look better, not because they actually do work on them

Socracheese
Oct 20, 2008

Shaggar posted:

people like macs because they think it makes them look better, not because they actually do work on them

took a pause from working on my mac to quote this wrongpost

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




The Management posted:

it's not about affording, it's about being told by CJs that you can only use what makes their job the easiest instead of what makes your job the easiest. first sign of a broken company.

"what do you mean i need a password to log into my computer now?!"

- a government accountant i had to support once

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

homo punching bag posted:

lmao shcools are terrible with money. blow the budget getting macs for highschool kids then buy no software

the computers were a grant but they couldn't afford software.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

someone with the wherewithal to request a mac is someone who probably isn't going to poo poo up my bin with cat pictures and plants_vs_zombies.exe.pif and repeated demands for help with a "broken internet thing"

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
i'm surprised there isn't a gpo or whatever to require every exe or dll on a windows install to have a valid code signature in order to load

or the fact that ms doesn't even sign their own binaries (maybe they do in windows 8? lol windows 8 though like i'd actually use that shitpile)

sure that wouldn't help you with buffer overflows or vbscript poo poo but jfc it'd be a start

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

The Management posted:

it's not about affording, it's about being told by CJs that you can only use what makes their job the easiest instead of what makes your job the easiest. first sign of a broken company.

the sooner you accept your job is just as much bullshit as the next guy's, the easier it will all be

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
honestly at a base level i just do not respect most "work" or the output thereof. my own included

Squinty Applebottom
Jan 1, 2013

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

honestly at a base level i just do not respect most "work" or the output thereof. my own included

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Mr Dog posted:

i'm surprised there isn't a gpo or whatever to require every exe or dll on a windows install to have a valid code signature in order to load

or the fact that ms doesn't even sign their own binaries (maybe they do in windows 8? lol windows 8 though like i'd actually use that shitpile)

sure that wouldn't help you with buffer overflows or vbscript poo poo but jfc it'd be a start

applocker does this I think. but yeah theres load of old, unsigned Microsoft stuff so it would be interesting to see what breaks.

Catalyst-proof
May 11, 2011

better waste some time with you

Fabricated posted:

Generally with my users the people you see using Macs are usually really stupid, and don't do any real work. Or literally the only thing they do is read and send emails.

MY USERS

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?
why can't you sign things yourself in the image?

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
you can, but it would be nicer if everything Microsoft related came signed on its own.

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007

Mr Dog posted:

i'm surprised there isn't a gpo or whatever to require every exe or dll on a windows install to have a valid code signature in order to load

or the fact that ms doesn't even sign their own binaries (maybe they do in windows 8? lol windows 8 though like i'd actually use that shitpile)

sure that wouldn't help you with buffer overflows or vbscript poo poo but jfc it'd be a start

its called Software Restriction Policies, and Windows has supported it for at least a decade

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Luigi Thirty posted:

the computers were a grant but they couldn't afford software.

lmbo they were socialist imacs.

the grant probably didnt stipulate the money had to be spent in the most ineffective way possible but somebody saw a opportunity to get their school computer lab in the local paper so macs it is

bring back old gbs fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Jul 7, 2014

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

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i dont know poo poo about gpo anymore so i guess i can ask here

my dad called and asked if theres a way for him to increase the res on his remote desktop connection. his work issued him some lenovo posbook with a 13" 1920x1080 screen, so i had him increase the dpi settings on windows 8. problem is that he has to rdp into a server (running server 2008) to do some work poo poo, but he cant see anything because it wont let him increase the dpi/decrease the resolution full screen over rdp or something. halp

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
its a bug: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2726399

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

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gj ms

thanks shaggar i'll email him that

Phoenixan
Jan 16, 2010

Just Keep Cool-idge
gotta love those, 'dad, you're hosed' situations

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

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Phoenixan posted:

gotta love those, 'dad, you're hosed' situations

hes getting old too so his eyes arent so great anymore :smith:

as a workaround i just set the dpi to normal and bumped the res down to like 1366x768 but obviously everything is all blurry because of the scaling. i emailed him about the hotfix so i guess i'm gonna get a bunch of confused calls from him again

skeevy achievements
Feb 25, 2008

by merry exmarx

Steve Ballmer posted:

just fyi this will never happen

skeevy achievements
Feb 25, 2008

by merry exmarx
I just watched this documentary about the Large Hadron Collider and the discovery of the Higgs boson



amongst the many revelations in that film is that virtually every one of those folks uses a Mac from the most pie-in-the-sky theorists to the magnet janitors to the administrators and everything in between, and plenty of iPads and iPhones besides

in other words, people with advanced degrees in hard sciences from the best schools at the top of their respective fields, whose careers depend on computation and can choose any platform they want to, overwhelmingly choose Macs to work on





























but






























can we hear more from some more bottom rung computer janitors about how Macs just can't be used for real work

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
if you install windows on a mac its almost usable. but academics are all about wasting grant money and macs are the best way to do that.

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hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

all the academics are using linpack based software that hasn't changed significantly since the mid 80s so a unix system is perfect

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