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pram posted:WHAT IF YOUR WEBSITE ONLY SUPPORTS A 12 YEAR OLD BROWSER MACFAGS literally the reason many workplaces prolly dont have macs cuz HR sharepoint apps need IE6
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 02:47 |
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ie6 is literally a crime against humanity
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 02:48 |
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i actually had to use some enterprise software recently and surprisingly it ran on linux i guess someone at haliburton owes linus a favor
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 02:56 |
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i use osx and it suits my needs
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 03:00 |
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pram posted:cool the main argument for windows is WHAT ABOUT OLD STUFF THATS DESIGNED BAD ? HMM?? CHECKMATE welcome to cj'ing, enjoy your stay! pram posted:WHAT IF YOUR WEBSITE ONLY SUPPORTS A 12 YEAR OLD BROWSER MACFAGS this is a legitimate problem. it was also fun when some of our small business clients bought a bunch of new windows 8.1 systems and then discovered a business-critical web portal shat the bed with ie11 and no amount of compatibility mode would fix it Beeftweeter posted:you're an idiot for equating openoffice and an office suite developed by microsoft fine, it's a step up but office 2011 for timb still breaks all kinds of crazy files, especially excel poo poo. also a whole pile of outlook features (which of course will be MISSION CRITICAL for the person you're supporting) won't work.
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 03:06 |
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for the record office document compatibility across platforms is actually pretty good and is a pillar of microsoft's office messaging strategy
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 03:18 |
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univbee posted:welcome to cj'ing, enjoy your stay! hmm no i only cj unix systems
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 03:23 |
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pram posted:ie6 is literally a crime against humanity png transparencies? yeah we don't need that poo poo proper css? pfff, have fun writing a lot of special rules you want actual security? lol go gently caress yourself
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 03:40 |
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So i wanted to see if numbers still sucked so i took some data i had and found out that woah Numbers now supports regressions! its actually pretty intuitive and neat and easy to use. But i wanted a log log graph because honestly i don't want uselessly hard to read data. Turns out numbers isn't too good with log-log+regression... yeah uhh that totally looks like a .94 r^2 It looks fine with Linear-Linear though not sure how they hosed that up so bad
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Locker Room Zubaz posted:not sure how they hosed that up so bad i think you'll find that it is you who are doing it wrong
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 03:50 |
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linear regressions are always supposed to be all crooked
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Locker Room Zubaz posted:linear regressions are always supposed to be all crooked just reboot, hold ⌘⌥PR down until it beeps twice, and the linear regression will fix itself with gay aversion therapy
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 03:54 |
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univbee posted:welcome to cj'ing, enjoy your stay! outlook 2011 crashes like clockwork almost everywhere i've seen it used. it also has the benefit of placing everything in completely different places than both outlook 2010 and mail.app just to make sure that no one knows how to use it when they get it. thankfully ms has blessed us with outlook 2013 for mac... re: file formats, there are serious incompatibilities between 2007, 2010, and 2013. all of which run on windows and use the xml document formats. god help you if you want to use something like change tracking between versions, or even between service packs. the office team does not do compatibility
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 05:13 |
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api call girl posted:i think you'll find that it is you who are doing it wrong
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 06:40 |
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I CJ'd hundos of macs (and windows) in the bay area for tons of richkid elemtnaries and i've learned that most IT admins who can't do the mac enterprise are just babbies who cannot do a linux/(BSD ), just roll out Casper and learn to use deploystudio, make imacs use network profiles and make laptops do roaming syncs for things that aren't video files and you can take 4-5 desperate IT guys in a district down to like 1 or 2 IT guys who have to change out an HD now and then or redeploy an image here and there, maybe clear the PRAM the deployment effort to get a nice deployment script configured and tested in windowsland was enormous compared to how quickly we could roll out with osx server and deploystudio and a poo poo ton of laptops and a multicast friendly backbone
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 06:41 |
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u mean windows admins are dumb and lazy as poo poo *faux surprise*
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 06:44 |
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pram posted:u mean admins are dumb and lazy as poo poo *faux surprise*
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 06:45 |
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join a macbook to our domain? uhh this wasnt on the mcse lol
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 06:46 |
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osx had really spotty ad support until 10.7, which basically broke all the hacks you used to have to do to get osx to work on a domain (without it making GBS threads itself every few weeks). now it basically works and you can even do "fancy" poo poo like folder redirection to windows servers reliably but admins get mad because they're used to just basing all their set-it-and-forget-it deployment stuff on GPOs and having to put in a third party product to manage that on the mac side is just a step too far. it's just plain ol' platform lock in, but everyone is used to it because ms has been the only platform since the early 2000s
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 06:51 |
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office 2013 is ugly as all gently caress and i won't upgrade to it ever it is going to have to deal until office 2010 goes eol
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 07:08 |
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pram posted:u mean windows admins are dumb and lazy as poo poo *faux surprise*
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 07:28 |
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no u see i am king of computar u use what i say
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 07:28 |
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imagine being so broken by stockholm syndrome that you gleefully impose the lovely operating system you can't leave on everybody else wah its too difficult to click buttons and admin a network even though thats literally my job
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 10:41 |
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computer parts posted:i actually had to use some enterprise software recently and surprisingly it ran on linux which linux tho suse, rh and canonical need to cut the poo poo and just all merge already also everything to do with ubuntu needs to die in a fire Sapozhnik fucked around with this message at 12:21 on Jul 8, 2014 |
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infernal machines posted:osx had really spotty ad support until 10.7, which basically broke all the hacks you used to have to do to get osx to work on a domain (without it making GBS threads itself every few weeks). now it basically works and you can even do "fancy" poo poo like folder redirection to windows servers reliably apple should be writing their own gpo processor and release their own management templates for osx specific stuff. theres no reason not to and they've finally realized that wrt abandoning garbage 3rd party network share protocols in favor of the smb standard. not that gpos even really matter as much as osx just not working at all. we don't use osx management stuff at all because 99% of our macs are used as remote dumb terminals and they can barely manage that. garbage audio drivers, garbage osx versions of windows software, garbage networking, garbage everything. cant wait to get rid of them and go to windows so the users can actually do their work.
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 14:22 |
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Mido posted:make imacs use network profiles and make laptops do roaming syncs are you on a magic triangle or purely open directory? infernal machines posted:osx had really spotty ad support until 10.7 reminder that 10.7.3 broke ad binding completely, lol
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 14:29 |
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yeah that's the other thing. they break random things every point release so you never ever upgrade unless theres a feature you want and you've gone through a month of regression testing
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 14:33 |
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Mr Dog posted:which linux tho i'm pretty sure it was rh because that's what people who actually want to do serious work on linux use
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 14:33 |
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nobody wants to do serious work on linux
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Shaggar posted:yeah that's the other thing. they break random things every point release so you never ever upgrade unless theres a feature you want and you've gone through a month of regression testing apple basically doesn't give a poo poo about any part of os x actually working or not the fact that any part of it hangs together at all is no less than a miracle we gave you x, y, and z as options, but only one of them will work at any given time, have fun figuring it out i particularly liked the transition plan of simply not using .file metadata from one os x version to the next over smb shares, that's a loving landmine we're still standing on and I'm not about to lift the foot on it VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Jul 8, 2014 |
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 14:38 |
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from 10.5.6 to 10.6.5 or something like that dns resolution for .local domains was totally busted and their support response was "lol yeah, its broken."
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Shaggar posted:yeah that's the other thing. they break random things every point release so you never ever upgrade unless theres a feature you want and you've gone through a month of regression testing because microsoft never breaks things with updates. h/o whats this.. The trust relationship between this workstation and the primary domain failed
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 14:47 |
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shouldnt have been talking to other domains secretly
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 14:48 |
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graph posted:are you on a magic triangle or purely open directory? alright no trolling in the pos please are those actually the names of a thing
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 14:51 |
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hobbesmaster posted:because microsoft never breaks things with updates. h/o whats this.. The trust relationship between this workstation and the primary domain failed that never actually happens without the admin loving something up. every time someone says "BWAHHHHH windows update hosed me!" its someone trying to hide their incompetence.
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 14:52 |
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gartner has the magic quadrant
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 14:53 |
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you pay them like 50k and buy lots of lunches and they put your software in it and idiots blindly purchase your garbage
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 14:53 |
Mr Dog posted:alright no trolling in the pos please are those actually the names of a thing it's integrating an apple directory server into your ad domain, there's write-ups of it if you're interested right now if you want to authenticate to ad network resources you're putting an additional entry into the keychain with your ad creds for every resource and that's retarded
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# ? Jul 8, 2014 14:59 |
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Mr Dog posted:alright no trolling in the pos please are those actually the names of a thing magic triangle = an open directory server bound to active directory so you can use ad creds to login to clients, but are still able to push .mcx and profiles etc
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have u guys tried updating to the latest osx mavericks?
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