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Especially a Catholic/Orthodox Christian theocracy. There would be no rich or poor, as St. Basil the Great said that "For if we all took only what was necessary to satisfy our own needs, giving the rest to those who lack, no one would be rich, no one would be poor, and no one would be in need." If we could decouple the theocratic state from far right politics, we could have a perfect ruling class. Another good point of a theocratic government would be that war would be a complete last option as killing is banned by almost all religions. Now I know what you're thinking. What about people that do not belong to the dominant religion? Well, you would do just as previous theocracies did (the Ottoman Empire) and have non-believers pay a tax for not being a part of the main church. This system of benign neglect would not disenfranchise minority religions. What say you? Would you like to live in a theocracy?
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How would you maintain accountability if the ruling class has a mandate from heaven?
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Jul 8, 2014 22:38
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ReV VAdAUL posted:How would you maintain accountability if the ruling class has a mandate from heaven? No one man is above the council that elects him. Even the Pope may be ousted by the College of Cardinals.
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Jul 8, 2014 22:40
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ReV VAdAUL posted:How would you maintain accountability if the ruling class has a mandate from heaven?
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Merciless hardline fundamentalist death squads. The same ones that praise Jesus while worshiping at the altar of Rand? WH40k was a documentary. 
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Jul 8, 2014 22:53
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I don't see the problem. They would have a mandate from heaven for a reason after all. It's a mandate from heaven.
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Jul 8, 2014 22:55
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god's not real, lol
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Jul 8, 2014 23:07
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Smoking Crow posted:Especially a Catholic/Orthodox Christian theocracy. There would be no rich or poor, as St. Basil the Great said that "For if we all took only what was necessary to satisfy our own needs, giving the rest to those who lack, no one would be rich, no one would be poor, and no one would be in need." If we could decouple the theocratic state from far right politics, we could have a perfect ruling class. Another good point of a theocratic government would be that war would be a complete last option as killing is banned by almost all religions. I don't know how many times I have to tell you but Priest really isn't Paul Bettany's best work.
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Jul 8, 2014 23:10
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I think this guy's been smoking something other than Crow. I used to live in a theocracy, but we moved out of Utah when I was 12. Pretty sure it sucked hardcore.
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Jul 8, 2014 23:19
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Sounds like communism would be better.
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Jul 8, 2014 23:21
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Yeah living in a Catholic theocracy would be great. Unless you were a woman.
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Jul 8, 2014 23:21
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Network Pesci posted:I think this guy's been smoking something other than Crow. I used to live in a theocracy, but we moved out of Utah when I was 12. Pretty sure it sucked hardcore. Utah is too secular to be a true theocracy. I don't think you guys know what a theocracy is.
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Jul 8, 2014 23:30
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I agree. Replace America with a theocracy. Let's call it the Republic of Gilead.
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Jul 8, 2014 23:36
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Smoking Crow posted:No one man is above the council that elects him. Even the Pope may be ousted by the College of Cardinals. That almost never causes a decades long schism 
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Jul 8, 2014 23:36
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The South will rise again, but this time there will be an antipope involved.
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Jul 8, 2014 23:38
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Smoking Crow posted:Now I know what you're thinking. What about people that do not belong to the dominant religion? Well, you would do just as previous theocracies did (the Ottoman Empire) and have non-believers pay a tax for not being a part of the main church. This system of benign neglect would not disenfranchise minority religions. Would we have to wear identifying clothing, too?
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Jul 8, 2014 23:40
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Hedera Helix posted:Would we have to wear identifying clothing, too? Edit: I messed up, op. You can if you want to, but I do not mind.
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Jul 8, 2014 23:41
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cock hero flux posted:god's not real, lol This. There can be no such thing as a real theocracy because even if there is a God, it's not giving us any hints on how to run the world. The best you can hope to end up with is some person/group of people who claims that God is speaking to them and handing down commands, which is effectively just a dictatorship/oligarchy where the leadership can pass the blame up to an imperceptible, unaccountable figure.
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Jul 8, 2014 23:42
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Kibbutzim are alright, I guess.
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Jul 8, 2014 23:44
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Didn't you post an almost-as-trolling thread in TBB?
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A Christian theocratic state would almost certainly want to enforce their ideals of sexual modesty. No contraception plus no abortion plus abstinence only education is a recipe for disaster. Plus I don't see any practical way to decouple a theocratic state from far-right politics.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Didn't you post an almost-as-trolling thread in TBB? Uh, I wasn't trolling in TBB, i actually feel that way about literature. Edit: same for this topic
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Jul 8, 2014 23:47
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evilweasel posted:That almost never causes a decades long schism You know what, I'll change my position on the whole deal if Smoking Crow can guarantee another cadaver synod.
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Jul 9, 2014 00:31
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Captain_Maclaine posted:You know what, I'll change my position on the whole deal if Smoking Crow can guarantee another cadaver synod. I do. Welcome to the team!
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Jul 9, 2014 00:40
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Smoking Crow posted:I do. Welcome to the team! Nah I was just messin' with you, there is no God and theocracy is for squares. 
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Jul 9, 2014 00:43
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Smoking Crow posted:Utah is too secular to be a true theocracy. I don't think you guys know what a theocracy is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodemocracy
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Smoking Crow posted:Especially a Catholic/Orthodox Christian theocracy. There would be no rich or poor, as St. Basil the Great said that "For if we all took only what was necessary to satisfy our own needs, giving the rest to those who lack, no one would be rich, no one would be poor, and no one would be in need." If we could decouple the theocratic state from far right politics, we could have a perfect ruling class. Another good point of a theocratic government would be that war would be a complete last option as killing is banned by almost all religions. Which religion? Also, since it wont be Judaism, what will be done with the Jews? 
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Jul 9, 2014 00:54
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I agree, lets invent a time machine and get William Jennings Bryan elected as our benevolent overlord.
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Jul 9, 2014 01:01
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Who What Now posted:Which religion? Also, since it wont be Judaism, what will be done with the Jews? The Jews are fine with me. I prefer a lot of kosher foods to the gentile version!
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Jul 9, 2014 01:01
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Smoking Crow posted:The Jews are fine with me. I prefer a lot of kosher foods to the gentile version! Cool! Theocracies have generally (read:never) been kind to jews. Good to know yours will, though!  But that doesn't answer which religion will reign supreme. Will there be a ladder match to decide?
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Who What Now posted:Cool! Theocracies have generally (read:never) been kind to jews. Good to know yours will, though! The Ottomans were kind to the Jews and Osman declared himself caliph. Same for the Persians under Cyrus. I personally like Orthodox Christianity but I'm slightly biased because that's my religion.
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Jul 9, 2014 01:09
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:I agree. Replace America with a theocracy. Let's call it the Republic of Gilead. Would we drop balms instead of bombs?
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Jul 9, 2014 01:10
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Smoking Crow posted:I personally like Orthodox Christianity but I'm slightly biased because that's my religion. It's gotta be the Aztec religion, because I don't want the sun to burn out 
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Jul 9, 2014 01:28
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Personally I am afraid that when Set weighs my soul against the weight of a feather I will not pass the test. Smoking Crow, how would you respond to claims that Orthodoxy weighs down the soul with sins against Ra?
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Jul 9, 2014 01:32
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Who What Now posted:Personally I am afraid that when Set weighs my soul against the weight of a feather I will not pass the test. Smoking Crow, how would you respond to claims that Orthodoxy weighs down the soul with sins against Ra? Dude just ask Set to use the Roc feather. Get buried with two silver pieces over your eyes and slip the big jackel one. Save the other for the ferryman.
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Jul 9, 2014 01:41
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Humans will find a way to gently caress up even a divinely appointed utopia. See: Garden of Eden, The.
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VitalSigns posted:It's gotta be the Aztec religion, because I don't want the sun to burn out The Aztec religion is false because there haven't been sacrifices since the time of Cortes and yet the sun still burns. Unless they count war death as sacrifice, but I'm not sure what the codices say.
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Smoking Crow posted:The Aztec religion is false because there haven't been sacrifices since the time of Cortes and yet the sun still burns. Unless they count war death as sacrifice, but I'm not sure what the codices say. Neither does anyone else, since the Spanish priests burned them all!
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Who What Now posted:Personally I am afraid that when Set weighs my soul against the weight of a feather I will not pass the test. Smoking Crow, how would you respond to claims that Orthodoxy weighs down the soul with sins against Ra? The Pharaohs don't exist anymore, therefore you can't believe in their religion. Wouldn't the Egyptian gods have intervened when the Christians took them over if they existed?
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Smoking Crow posted:The Pharaohs don't exist anymore, therefore you can't believe in their religion. Wouldn't the Egyptian gods have intervened when the Christians took them over if they existed? Perhaps the Egyptian gods just like a winner and you've been praying to Ra this whole time.
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