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Who What Now posted:You. Don't. Have. To. Agree. Because. Your. Opinion. Does. Not. Influence. What. Rights. People. Do. Or. Do. Not. Have. Natural rights? What is this, Wigton where everybody wears a powdered wig?
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At least there would be fewer abortions. And as a bonus, some of those women who do have abortions will die from bleeding out!
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buttcoin smuggler posted:It's amusing that D&D is reduced to incoherent babbling when presented with the standard pro-life position. "All this talk of women's health sure am some incoherent babbling." -anti-choice beasts and killers
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Jul 11, 2014 07:28
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buttcoin smuggler posted:How do you suggest removing the sperm? I'm not a doctor, but I'm under the impression that the testes continually produce more. Manadatory vasectomy upon puberty. Some males will have complications that make reversal impossible, but vasectomy is a very safe procedure so this would definitely be the most ethical way to ensure that the zygote Shoah finally comes to an end.
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Jul 11, 2014 08:16
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buttcoin smuggler posted:Too much room for loving things up (complications from the vasectomy, the artificial insemination not taking, etc). Better do to things the way God intended. Pregnancy complications are much more dangerous than vasectomy complications. Shave your taint, because this has already been decided.
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Jul 11, 2014 08:38
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buttcoin smuggler posted:I'm a standard moral realist. I don't subscribe to any particular ethical theory, but I recognize that moral questions have both utilitarian and deontological aspects and we need to address both. Your purportedly unique and hard-come-by beliefs are irrelevant in the scheme of American discourse about women's health and women's rights.
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Jul 11, 2014 22:29
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buttcoin smuggler posted:I'm actually a big fan of filthy, whoring women. A person with your positions doesn't get to make a joke like this.
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Jul 11, 2014 23:15
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buttcoin smuggler posted:My utopian theocracy doesn't include a joke police. "M'lady, you mustn't kill your baby! You don't realize how precious the gift of life is. For real though, I love sluts."
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Jul 11, 2014 23:35
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Why is it immoral? That baby's literally coming right for you.
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Jul 12, 2014 16:08
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Sooo you're saying that women have to emulate Jesus by repeatedly sacrificing their bodies for the sins of their fetuses? Or what. I thought that whole "take my body" thing was supposed to be a one-time deal. Why don't men have to engage in this particular form of self-sacrifice anyway?
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Jul 12, 2014 17:23
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What's with this whole "Christian government" crap anyway? What would Jesus have to say about that? He'd be like "gently caress these mud kingdoms bro, get ready for the kingdom I've prepared for you."
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Jul 13, 2014 00:54
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VitalSigns posted:Ahahaha of all of the reasons to hate gays, "If we don't hate gays hard enough, everyone will become gay and abjure children, and human civilization will end" has to be the dumbest. "Gross, butt sex" is a better reason than that, Christ. Do you now see how it can be tough to get over the overt repression on display? "Isn't everyone struggling with the overwhelming urge to make out with handsome dudes?" No man.  Please make out with handsome dudes and feel better about yourself.
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Jul 13, 2014 17:49
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Repression, suppression. What I should've called it was "loving sad."
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Jul 14, 2014 00:33
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Smoking Crow posted:Let's take a moment out of our discussion to agree on one thing. It is the personification of responses to your idiocy.
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Jul 14, 2014 01:47
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is the worst smilie on these forums and everyone would appreciate it if you didn't use it.
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Jul 14, 2014 02:34
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Anyone who trots out philosophical arguments and "agree to disagree" in the space of a single discussion is begging to be ignored.
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Jul 15, 2014 02:03
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I'm a dumbass, but go read what some other guy says. He kills it.
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Jul 15, 2014 03:39
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VitalSigns posted:So the Divine God you don't think exists is going to guide the Yes because this world is saveable, that's what you can take from the New Testament.
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Jul 15, 2014 04:14
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buttcoin smuggler posted:The New Testament is a source of tremendous moral wisdom. Your posting style is senile so I never know what you're driving at, but it's not like I disagree with you. There's no modern concept of human rights without the sermons of whoever is speaking in Q.
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Jul 15, 2014 04:20
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buttcoin smuggler posted:I'm glad we're on the same page on this issue. However, just about everything tacked on in addition to Q was the ravings of a desert Steve Jobs and his apocalyptic cult. All the real heirs of the Master who understood the meaning of his teachings (like those who wrote Didache) got rubbed out before the Catholic Church came on the scene. The Church is the legacy of the cult, not of the Master, and has all the moral wisdom and coherency of the Nation of Gods and Earths.
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Jul 15, 2014 04:27
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Smoking Crow posted:You literally just reply to me by unironically saying "I'll make the website" "Healthcare.gov: The Website's Not Important" by Smoking Crow, 2014
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Jul 15, 2014 06:46
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Jesus is pretty much silent on the issue of violence, except it's pretty easy to see from his teachings that he was totally uninterested in it as a solution.
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Jul 16, 2014 17:32
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Peta posted:I, too, have read The God Delusion and watched several Christopher Hitchens debates Hi there coward, jump on in.
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Jul 16, 2014 17:36
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I'm imagining a wave of neoconservative 20-year-old post-2010 regdates about to lecture us smugly on the necessity of wars that took place when they were children. They'll all be berry unique of course, with rationales that span the gamut from theocratical to atheist. I don't know whether to drink or laugh. Is this what it means to grow old?
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You think it takes more than four minutes to read a paragraph of neoconservative barf?quote:If you think it's just to believe that removing a mass-murderer and tyrant that had repeatedly invaded other nations was an inherently immoral action, you may be a crass rear end in a top hat. If you've the opinion of many cod-leftists, that having done the wrong thing once, nations/the USA should never do anything again, you've all the brainpower of a particularly stupid amoeba.
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Jul 17, 2014 14:27
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Most neoconservatives don't call themselves neoconservative.quote:Please, explain the justification under which removing Saddam Hussein, as an action in and of itself, is a morally neutral or immoral action.
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Jul 17, 2014 14:33
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emfive posted:How exactly is the selection of which foreign leaders to topple by invasion and occupation to be made? Why, I happen to have prepared a white paper addressing this very question. You can read it on my think tank's website, howdareyoucallmeneoconservative.org
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Jul 17, 2014 14:43
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Guys let's overthrow governments, and replace dictators we installed with other dictators, but let's do it a little more smartly this time, yes?
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Jul 17, 2014 14:50
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Let's kill thousands in the process of choosing leaders for other countries, but woe betide he who calls me a neoconservative. I propose that we slay thousands solely for the purpose of advancing human rights. You could call me a "Scoop Jackson Democrat."
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See, now you regret calling me neoconservative. Neoconservatives might think it's a bad idea to start a nuclear war because you don't like the leader of Russia, whereas I
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Jul 17, 2014 15:01
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Peta posted:Number of people in this thread who know what it's like to live a single day under a fascist dictator: 0 (zero) Number of people in this thread who know what it's like to be vaporized by white hot fire from an American bomber because they live under a fascist dictator: 0 (zero)
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Jul 17, 2014 15:23
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Peta posted:Agreed, one or two years of civilian wartime casualties compares to the death toll that Iraq suffered under Saddam Get purified by suffering, foreigners. It's for your own good.
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Jul 17, 2014 15:27
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Wait, when we talk about deaths under Saddam are we including -deaths from sanctions -deaths from the Iran-Iraq War that we fomented ?
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Jul 17, 2014 15:51
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Peta posted:What are you gonna do about it Watch you get co-opted by neoconservative colonialists.
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"Doing well" = "Exterminating Tamils"Peta posted:I'm sorry life is so cruel to you. I'm using sympathy now so don't call me a sociopath ever again. Only a sociopath would say "I'm using sympathy right now." I'M DEPLOYING SYMPATHY
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Jul 17, 2014 16:54
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Forced gender reassignment for gay men is progressive?
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Jul 17, 2014 18:26
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:Are you implying transwomen are gay men forced into transitioning? No, I'm stating that men who have sex with men are sentenced to death in Iran and transitioning is a way to escape that fate.
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Jul 17, 2014 18:56
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Well presumably the US does bear some responsibility for those members of ISIS who received their training from the US military.
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Who What Now posted:Why does this sound like a very poorly worded Transcendental Argument for God? 
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