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Leperflesh: May 17, 2007

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

Didn't stop Niners fans all those years.

Well it stopped me!

The last time I went to a game (of any sport) at Candlestick was in the 1980s.

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Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

Leperflesh posted:

Well it stopped me!

The last time I went to a game (of any sport) at Candlestick was in the 1980s.

Shame on you. I was there for the Monday Night Blackout Bowl against Pittsburgh.

# ? Aug 11, 2014 08:22

Blitz of 404 Error: Sep 19, 2007; Joe Biden is a top 15 president

I just watched Moneyball for the first time tonight and good lord what a poo poo stadium

# ? Aug 11, 2014 08:34

Chilichimp: Oct 24, 2006; TIE Adv xWampa

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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

Shame on you. I was there for the Monday Night Blackout Bowl against Pittsburgh.

So you're saying the Superbowl issue in the Superdome was normal for the Niners?

Also, I don't believe the Georgia Dome is as old as the last time Leperflesh went to Candlestick, and they're already tearing it down to build a new one.

# ? Aug 11, 2014 13:06

Coldforge: Oct 29, 2002; I knew it would be bad.
I didn't know it would be so stupid.

Chilichimp posted:

So you're saying the Superbowl issue in the Superdome was normal for the Niners?

Also, I don't believe the Georgia Dome is as old as the last time Leperflesh went to Candlestick, and they're already tearing it down to build a new one.

That's why they played so well after the blackout. It suddenly became a home game for them.

# ? Aug 11, 2014 15:25

Tricky Ed: Aug 18, 2010; It is important to avoid confusion. This is the one that's okay to lick.

Really really late for this, but I believe that overwhelming evidence suggests that Birmingham is a poor choice for pro teams. Sure, the actual NFL would have more sway, but Sunday is for going to church and talking about how your team did the day before, not pro football.

As for non-expansion team news, the proposed laws to fund an expansion of San Diego's convention center have stalled in court (apparently a new tax still has to follow laws for votes even if it only taxes visitors!) which opens the door a crack for the convention center expansions to be tied to a new football stadium downtown.

This is a very small crack, as a new stadium would cost about a billion additional dollars and the team and league have nobly pledged to contribute less than half of that. This is a mere 15 years after the Padres' former ownership group got the city to build a stadium, made about $700 million from developments surrounding it, and then sold the team, never using any of that revenue to increase payroll significantly.

# ? Aug 12, 2014 08:46

swickles: Aug 21, 2006; I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know

Chokes McGee posted:

Sign Rally Possum as a dual sports star, start him and Kickoff Pidgeon at WR.

Raiders go 12-2.

What happens the other two games?

# ? Aug 13, 2014 00:47

a neat cape: Feb 22, 2007; Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

Tricky Ed posted:

Really really late for this, but I believe that overwhelming evidence suggests that Birmingham is a poor choice for pro teams. Sure, the actual NFL would have more sway, but Sunday is for going to church and talking about how your team did the day before, not pro football.

As for non-expansion team news, the proposed laws to fund an expansion of San Diego's convention center have stalled in court (apparently a new tax still has to follow laws for votes even if it only taxes visitors!) which opens the door a crack for the convention center expansions to be tied to a new football stadium downtown.

This is a very small crack, as a new stadium would cost about a billion additional dollars and the team and league have nobly pledged to contribute less than half of that. This is a mere 15 years after the Padres' former ownership group got the city to build a stadium, made about $700 million from developments surrounding it, and then sold the team, never using any of that revenue to increase payroll significantly.

There is either going to be a new stadium in San Diego or approval for a stadium by 2016, or the Chargers are gone.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 00:51

Sash!: Mar 16, 2001

swickles posted:

What happens the other two games?

Possum ate the pigeon in week 14

# ? Aug 13, 2014 01:06

Blitz of 404 Error: Sep 19, 2007; Joe Biden is a top 15 president

mhmm yes *blows bubbles out pipe*

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Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 9m
Jerry Jones gushes about Michael Ovitz LA stadium model, with his arms around Ovitz and LA-hungry Mark Davis.

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Perhaps it was all mere coincidence. It was just quirky timing that, with his franchise again a free agent after the season, and his efforts to get a stadium in Los Angeles taking on a more fevered pitch, and with him openly flirting with San Antonio to up the relocation ante, now, of all times, Mark Davis's Oakland Raiders happened to travel to Southern California for two days of practices with the Cowboys.

But, as they stood on a field at a training complex roughly 60 miles from downtown LA, it was surely no coincidence that as soon as practice was over Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, as slick of a media maven as they come, sought out a robust gathering of reporters, and threw his arm around Davis and Hollywood mogul Michael Ovitz. Then he launched into a soliloquy about his deep relationship with Davis, and his high esteem for an LA stadium model that Ovitz conducted and its viability to house an NFL franchise (or two, ultimately, if the NFL gets its way with this market).

This seemed like anything other than an improv act � nothing from the Actor's Studio � but rather more akin to in-your-face performance art, as the overtones of Raiders-back-to-LA were impossible to miss. Oh, and Magic Johnson (who knows a thing or two about ownership and was once represented by Ovitz) happened to be standing a few yards away, and Tommy Lasorda was sitting at a sideline-chair in a VIP area off to the side. Jones was all smiles, and the vocal � and borderline manic � Raiders fans who outnumbered Cowboys fans here and screamed as the team busses pulled up and chanting "Cowboys suck" for a good part of the afternoon made for quite the sonic backdrop to a fairly surreal scene that at times seemed like an infomercial for the NFL in LA.

Jones waxed nostalgic about Ovitz's stadium model, which cost "seven figures" to produce. He and Ovitz joked that model remains "the only stadium anyone is playing (football) in," while Davis stood on the opposite side of Jones, somewhat awkwardly. Taking the bait after the line of questioning turned to the Cowboys' recent minor transactions and Orlando Scandrick's drug suspension, I asked Jones, "Could that model still serve as a viable option for an NFL team in LA?"

"It would make a beautiful stadium," Jones said, outright beaming. "Yes it would."

Davis, for his part, spoke of Jones almost like a father figure, in the same reverential tones both men spoke of Davis's father, Al, one of the game's great builders and a Hall of Famer. "It's a great relationship," Davis said of his bond with Jones. "I look to him for answers on everything." This was another instance in this briefing that begged for a follow up -- "Have you conferred with Jones about San Antonio?", a market Jones has dubbed as Cowboys Country.

"We haven't talked about that yet, but we'll see," Davis said.

Davis has no long-term viable options in the Bay Area, short of perhaps sharing Levi's Stadium with the 49ers, which he remains diametrically opposed to. He would love to move to Los Angeles and has intensified his desire to do so in recent months, spending oodles of time in the area, sources have said. The NFL, however, would prefer to give another ownership group the rights to Los Angeles -- make no mistake, the road to LA goes through the league office in New York -- as the Davis family already pulled out of Southern California once, and Davis doesn't have the real estate, marketing and overall business expertise the league would demand for the coveted market.

Of course, having Jones, maybe the most influential owner in the league, work with him to build a consortium of business giants and Hollywood elites might make that option more viable. Make no mistake, the sense of urgency of several parties to get to LA has increased, and will only consider to do so. The Rams are also lease free agents after the season and their owner, Stan Kroenke, already owns a huge parcel of land in LA that could house a stadium, and the Chargers, the franchise closest to Los Angeles, are not burdened by massive financial hurdles in their lease, either.

Jones is among the owners who continue to speak regularly about the importance of getting a team to LA -- imagine spinning one of the league's bottom three revenue generators into a top-five earner for the shared revenue pie? -- and don't expect that to change anytime soon. He looked comfortable as ever in the salesman role, and no doubt Davis loves having him as his wingman, doing the talking for him.

Maybe it amounts to nothing in the end, but Davis is clearly becoming increasingly visible and vocal about his dalliances with other locales, and no doubt he covets Los Angeles above San Antonio or anyplace else.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 03:47

Grittybeard: Mar 29, 2010; Bad, very bad!

Well, it's really dumb but we're talking Mark Davis here.

For whatever it's worth I do remember reading a bunch of stuff about how close Jerry was to Al, it's at least superficially believable. And again, Mark Davis.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 03:54

warcrimes: Jul 6, 2013; I don't know what's it called, I just know the sound it makes when it takes a J4G's life.

Grittybeard posted:

Well, it's really dumb but we're talking Mark Davis here.

For whatever it's worth I do remember reading a bunch of stuff about how close Jerry was to Al, it's at least superficially believable. And again, Mark Davis.

Why is it dumb that Mark Davis is a topic of discussion in a sub about the Raiders possibly moving to LA? And yes, Al Davis and Jerry Jones were very close, Jones looked to Davis as a mentor when he first took over ownership of the Cowboys. Al was, after all, THE maverick sports team owner for 40+ years that Jones has tried to emulate(with varying degrees of success).

# ? Aug 13, 2014 04:15

Grittybeard: Mar 29, 2010; Bad, very bad!

I guess I was referring specifically to the highlighted part, which is way over the top and probably the writer purposely framing it that way more than anything. Although in the last decade it's hard to see where going to Jerry for advice on anything other than making money is worthwhile.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 04:21

warcrimes: Jul 6, 2013; I don't know what's it called, I just know the sound it makes when it takes a J4G's life.

Grittybeard posted:

I guess I was referring specifically to the highlighted part, which is way over the top and probably the writer purposely framing it that way more than anything. Although in the last decade it's hard to see where going to Jerry for advice on anything other than making money is worthwhile.

Okay, yeah, I agree, the general tone is a bit melodramatic, actually. I'm going to assume that since Mark has known Jerry since he was a young adult, it's more of a recent father figure/good friend of the family thing since Al died.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 04:27

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Yeah I highlighted the wrong part just for giggles, but the interesting part is how Jerry is pushing(helping) Davis towards LA

# ? Aug 13, 2014 04:35

warcrimes: Jul 6, 2013; I don't know what's it called, I just know the sound it makes when it takes a J4G's life.

Blitz7x posted:

Yeah I highlighted the wrong part just for giggles, but the interesting part is how Jerry is pushing(helping) Davis towards LA

Why wouldn't he? A franchise in LA would be instantly worth north of $2b. When teams get sold, every owner gets a cut. It's in the NFL's best interest for numerous reasons to have at least one organization in LA, and the primary one is financial, of course.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 04:40

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Blitz7x posted:

mhmm yes *blows bubbles out pipe*

This is the worst slashfic I ever read

# ? Aug 13, 2014 04:40

japtor: Oct 28, 2005

Suspect Bucket posted:

This is the worst slashfic I ever read

It's missing the Buss family as potential investors along with Magic :getin:

# ? Aug 13, 2014 05:04

Coldforge: Oct 29, 2002; I knew it would be bad.
I didn't know it would be so stupid.

Grittybeard posted:

I guess I was referring specifically to the highlighted part, which is way over the top and probably the writer purposely framing it that way more than anything. Although in the last decade it's hard to see where going to Jerry for advice on anything other than making money is worthwhile.

FWIW, Jed York did the same kind of ring kissing of Jerry when he was trying to get Levi's funded. The old man has a lot of pull.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 05:07

CannonFodder: Jan 26, 2001; Passion’s Wrench

Bort Bortles posted:

This doesnt only happen in California. NC drivers are Real Bad (I wont say The Worst because I dont want to start a "my state's drivers are the worst" chat).

As a truck driver who has been all over the country, the answer is All Of Them. They Are All The Worst�.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 07:14

AAAAA! Real Muenster: Jul 12, 2008; My QB is also named Bort

CannonFodder posted:

As a truck driver who has been all over the country, the answer is All Of Them. They Are All The Worst�.

Well that is depressing (that they are all The Worst) because it means there is no escape :ohdear:

# ? Aug 13, 2014 17:17

Chilichimp: Oct 24, 2006; TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp; Grimey Drawer

Bort Bortles posted:

Well that is depressing (that they are all The Worst) because it means there is no escape

Say it with me now:

"I believe I can flyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy...

# ? Aug 13, 2014 17:22

rjmccall: Sep 7, 2007; no worries friend; Fun Shoe

warcrimes posted:

Why wouldn't he? A franchise in LA would be instantly worth north of $2b. When teams get sold, every owner gets a cut. It's in the NFL's best interest for numerous reasons to have at least one organization in LA, and the primary one is financial, of course.

He also really doesn't want a team in San Antonio.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 17:58

dirty shrimp money: Jan 8, 2001

rjmccall posted:

He also really doesn't want a team in San Antonio.

Neither does Bob McNair, and as head of the owners' finance committee he's the guy that approves franchise moves.

San Antonio isn't getting a NFL team any time soon.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 18:26

Blitz of 404 Error: Sep 19, 2007; Joe Biden is a top 15 president

Who folds first?

quote:

Davis and the Raiders have a one-year lease at O.Co Coliseum. Per Tafur, Davis hasn�t requested an extension, and he doesn�t plan to do so.

# ? Aug 14, 2014 00:43

Bivens: Jun 23, 2003; die mensch·maschine

if Jerry Jones is at all responsible for the Raiders moving to Los Angeles i will put on a Cowboys jersey, renounce every horrible thing i ever said about their organization, and then buy my season tickets

# ? Aug 14, 2014 05:44

davecrazy: Nov 25, 2004; I'm an insufferable shitposter who does not deserve to root for such a good team. Also, this is what Matt Harvey thinks of me and my garbage posting.

The Raiders belong in LA.

# ? Aug 14, 2014 05:47

japtor: Oct 28, 2005

davecrazy posted:

The Raiders belong in LA.

Hell I'll be satisfied as long as they just remain in CA. The question is what cites would sound good/funny for the name, such as "Weed Raiders" :420:

# ? Aug 14, 2014 10:18

Elephanthead: Sep 11, 2008; Toilet Rascal

They should get sponsored by Hanes and be the panty raiders.

# ? Aug 14, 2014 19:26

Ostentatious: Sep 29, 2010

Raiders should build a stadium that floats on the water and can travel around the bay

Fans would board the stadium on old fashioned wooden bridges

# ? Aug 14, 2014 19:46

computer parts: Nov 18, 2010; PLEASE CLAP

Ostentatious posted:

Raiders should build a stadium that floats on the water and can travel around the bay

Fans would board the stadium on old fashioned wooden bridges

And then in the off season they can blockade Seattle until they get their booty.

# ? Aug 14, 2014 20:11

Volkerball: Oct 15, 2009; by FactsAreUseless

japtor posted:

Hell I'll be satisfied as long as they just remain in CA. The question is what cites would sound good/funny for the name, such as "Weed Raiders"

The real question is when are the denver nuggets going to change their logo.

# ? Aug 14, 2014 20:53

TITTIEKISSER69: Mar 19, 2005; SAVE THE BEES
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Ostentatious posted:

Raiders should build a stadium that floats on the water and can travel around the bay

Fans would board the stadium on old fashioned wooden bridges

# ? Aug 14, 2014 21:04

warcrimes: Jul 6, 2013; I don't know what's it called, I just know the sound it makes when it takes a J4G's life.

That's loving awesome, wilford.

# ? Aug 14, 2014 21:16

Blitz of 404 Error: Sep 19, 2007; Joe Biden is a top 15 president

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Raiders were wine'd and dine'd

# ? Aug 15, 2014 01:41

a neat cape: Feb 22, 2007; Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

Those are expensive loving crab cakes

# ? Aug 15, 2014 01:46

Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

ROSS MY SALAD posted:

Those are expensive loving crab cakes

We don't all live on the coast.

# ? Aug 15, 2014 01:52

Bip Roberts: Mar 29, 2005

How do you end up at Ruth's Chris in Texas?

# ? Aug 15, 2014 03:00

FuzzySkinner: May 23, 2012

ROSS MY SALAD posted:

Those are expensive loving crab cakes

I was in Maryland the past week.

I love, LOVE crabcakes but was kind of surprised at how expensive they actually were.

This despite the fact that I was pretty much the Crabcake capital of the world.

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Volkerball: Oct 15, 2009; by FactsAreUseless

Awww man. They almost sent him to a hotel with a comic-con convention. Opportunity for an amazing photo gone forever.

# ? Aug 15, 2014 03:57

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