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AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Chilichimp posted:

why would they give a poo poo about the rights? Just to be dicks?

yes.

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AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

soggybagel posted:

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/09/if-you-build-it-they-might-not-come-the-risky-economics-of-sports-stadiums/260900/
http://www.thenation.com/article/162400/why-do-mayors-love-sports-stadiums
http://grantland.com/features/miami-marlins-fan-woes/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2013/01/27/miami-marlins-have-become-baseballs-most-expensive-stadium-disaster/
http://www.brookings.edu/research/articles/1997/06/summer-taxes-noll

I mean. I know I've read hard studies that assess long term impact of stadiums and the fact is cities bend over backwards with massive tax breaks and are often footing bills for billionaire owners. When I have more time I'll pull those up. But its pretty well documented that stadiums bring a brief boost in jobs during construction, but only bring in a small amount of actual jobs. They're often low paying and part time. Economic impact gets massively overstated when it gets weighed against the very nice terms that owners get in regards to actually footing any bills. Take a look at Detroits new hockey arena deal for an idea.

Detroit's new hockey arena is going to own and be a massive boon to the community, along with many other unseen benefits like major donors to the city forcing the government to get their affairs in order.

It's gonna be great.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Sash! posted:

A boon to the community because it wanted a hockey arena, which is enough of a justification in my book. Its the city version of buying a ridiculously huge TV you don't really need.

If you've ever been to the Joe Louis Arena, you'd know that the city needs a replacement for many reasons. Also, by creating the many neighborhoods around the arena, Ilitch and various other landowners can put pressure on the city over things like "the city should figure out a way to calculate taxes" and "the water department should have an actual system for collecting payments".

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