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rjmccall
Sep 7, 2007

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FWIW, Levi's PSLs specifically don't grant any rights to other NFL games held there. And we'd probably just roll over and take it if Raiders PSLs/tickets were cheaper, although, y'know, I don't know how they'd remotely justify selling PSLs for Raiders tickets given that the stadium is already completely financed.

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rjmccall
Sep 7, 2007

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Ribsauce posted:

Could Richmond really support a team?

The NFL would never allow it. Washington's market has already had large chunks cleaved out of it over the last twenty years; putting a team in Richmond would shrink it to literally just DC. Meanwhile, the Richmond team would have a potential market of maybe 4-5 million people. Both markets would be tiny and full of transplants with pre-existing allegiances. Virginia is just not a big enough state to support two NFL teams.

Plus Richmond couldn't even get its poo poo together to keep its AAA team.

More obvious places to put another team include Los Angeles, Austin / San Antonio, Charleston, and Birmingham. You probably couldn't do both Charleston and Birmingham without pissing off Atlanta, though.

rjmccall
Sep 7, 2007

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It's not like Alabama fans would have to stop rooting for Alabama just because Birmingham got an NFL team. There are plenty of other places with huge college allegiances that still turn out for pro games, in both football and other sports. 80% of the evidence for the idea that the South doesn't care about the NFL seems to based around the fact that nobody roots for the Falcons, which just might have other explanations, like having never strung together two consecutive good seasons until 2011-2012.

rjmccall
Sep 7, 2007

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Sash! posted:

I'd just go right there in the first place. VA Beach has about 50% more people than Richmond and is closing in on 2 million fast. Sidesteps the whole "Richmond is too close to DC" thing.

I object to all of Hampton Roads being called Virginia Beach. :mad:

The markets for teams are not just the cities they're named after. My assumption is that the NFL is interested in teams having a large population of people who will naturally root for the new team because it's the obvious local team. Charleston would probably draw all of South Carolina at least and some of southern/southeastern Georgia, which is small-ish for an NFL franchise but not unworkably so, and it would leave North Carolina as a solid, larger market for the Panthers. Putting a team in Raleigh would just create weird internecine divisions in the natural Panthers market, with a real risk that everybody would just remain a Panthers fan if the expansion team sucks; plus, the Panthers would never, ever approve it.

rjmccall
Sep 7, 2007

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You could say Norfolk, after the only significant city center.

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rjmccall
Sep 7, 2007

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warcrimes posted:

Why wouldn't he? A franchise in LA would be instantly worth north of $2b. When teams get sold, every owner gets a cut. It's in the NFL's best interest for numerous reasons to have at least one organization in LA, and the primary one is financial, of course.

He also really doesn't want a team in San Antonio.

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