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Redcrimson posted:Is it weird that the show this most reminds me of is Penguindrum? Not enough yuri vibes or fabulous max, homeslice, but good try. I just wolfed down the 5 episodes that are available of this and... it felt like it's just going through the motions? Maybe with the week-to-week wait, this vibe will go away.
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There's a part of the OP song that sounds exactly like a piece of another show's music and it's driving me crazy that I can't remember what it is. Anyone have an idea? I suspect it's another Kanno composition. It's the bit from 5 to 8 seconds to be specific. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwoU6nHxw6E edit: i dunno why the fuckin time code won't embed right. 
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Aug 10, 2014 03:59
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maybe from ghost in the shell? the lyrics are clearly not the same but the rhythm and beat kinda are throughout that part https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIVgSuuUTwQ
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Aug 10, 2014 04:01
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a kitten posted:There's a part of the OP song that sounds exactly like a piece of another show's music and it's driving me crazy that I can't remember what it is. Anyone have an idea? I suspect it's another Kanno composition. It always reminded me of Hemisphere, really. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OID_2AxLblU The ED even has hints of this Turn A track. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHps0rH9-bc&list=PLvu6hc5JuZSNIJXksi8cFFslFtZ2-MAcT&index=12 Pootybutt fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Aug 10, 2014 |
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Aug 10, 2014 04:04
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Yeah I was almost positive it was GitS but it doesn't seem like it, and I've never seen the one that pootybutt posted so that turned out not to be it either. But, then you edited and reminded me of Turn A and now I think it is probably this bit from the first OP at 47 seconds in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpqwY7tsZS4&t=47s Either that or something from Macross Frontier. drat it Yoko, I like your stuff but, c'mon now.  I'm calling it case closed though.
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Aug 10, 2014 04:51
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Pootybutt posted:The ED even has hints of this Turn A track. I was wracking my brain trying to figure out where I'd heard it before! It's basically the same track, melodically.
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Aug 10, 2014 10:44
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a kitten posted:Either that or something from Macross Frontier. ......*snaps fingers* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a91rrEEyZBk I'm a Kanno nut, what can I say?
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Aug 10, 2014 11:13
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I wouldn't be surprised if Shibazaki pairs up with Twelve and Nine, but at the same time I think we'll get plenty of episodes where everyone is doing their own thing before we have them team up, if at all. For all the grumbling about lack of causalities, and this episode kind of really helped cement the importance of that to their mission, considering they risked their lives and being spotted in order to make sure that stayed true. I think it's been pretty clever how they've been doing it and showing how Twelve and Nine have been going out of their way to make sure there aren't any causalities. It paints a pretty stark picture compared to Five, who was willing to kill coverage in the area in order to force the bomb to go off and entirely willing to get people to die to flush them out. I'm not sure how I really felt about the bits with Lisa, Nine and Twelve this episode - it kind of felt like I was watching a different show altogether. But now with Five part of the crew I think things are going to decidedly ramp up.
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Aug 10, 2014 13:44
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Monathin posted:I wouldn't be surprised if Shibazaki pairs up with Twelve and Nine, but at the same time I think we'll get plenty of episodes where everyone is doing their own thing before we have them team up, if at all. For all the grumbling about lack of causalities, and this episode kind of really helped cement the importance of that to their mission, considering they risked their lives and being spotted in order to make sure that stayed true. I think it's been pretty clever how they've been doing it and showing how Twelve and Nine have been going out of their way to make sure there aren't any causalities. It paints a pretty stark picture compared to Five, who was willing to kill coverage in the area in order to force the bomb to go off and entirely willing to get people to die to flush them out. It helps that we've got a rough understanding of their plan, now - they were trying to draw the attention of the cops to operations run by the people who ruined their lives until something compromising surfaced. Being disruptive and annoying was important to that, but killing people could well have been counter-productive (in that it would have focused the police's attention more on them and less on their targets). Plus, y'know, the whole 'mass murder is bad and wrong' thing.
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Aug 10, 2014 14:21
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I just got caught up on this series and think it would be really lame if Shibazaki teams up with Twelve and Nine. The whole "we're both enemies but let's team up to take down a bigger enemy" just seems like such a cliched way for it to go and even though they have been very careful not to have any casualties Twelve and Nine have still been planting bombs everywhere and if anything went wrong or even one person didn't manage to evacuate according to their plan like in the most recent episode then they easily could have killed someone, I don't think it would fit with what's been shown of Shibazaki so far to team up with people like that. Obviously both groups are going to be in opposition with the new character, but I'd much rather they did it independently (or have something like Twelve and Nine manipulating Shibazaki to do what they want through their plans) rather than explicitly teaming up.
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Aug 10, 2014 14:22
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Pootybutt posted:......*snaps fingers* God drat, that must have been the only track I missed when I was listening to those soundtracks trying to figure it out, that's totally what I was thinking of. Thanks!  for real this time.
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Aug 10, 2014 15:40
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Redcrimson posted:Is it weird that the show this most reminds me of is Penguindrum? Pootybutt posted:Terrorism, subways, weekly, literal SURVIVAL STRATEGies posted on youtube and guys rushing into the streets to prevent a terrible fate? Think you might be on to something. You forgot the 'weird place filled with orphans who tried to escape' thing.
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NETVERK posted:You forgot the 'weird place filled with orphans who tried to escape' thing. Even aside from terrorism and Child Broilers, I think the shows are ultimately very similar thematically. About abandoned people trapped with a future they feel was unjustly handed down to them, and how those individual people both rail against their fates and find solace in human connection.
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Aug 12, 2014 04:54
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Now that the reason for terrorism is revealed, I have to wonder why they had to threaten blowing up a bunch of places to put corruption into the limelight instead of like, I dunno, using their super hacker skills to find it? There better be a drat good reason they couldn't do this investigation themselves. Also better be a good reason that Five let the bomb go off if she could access them anyway to let them know she found them? I mean it's all very dramatic but completely insane and ungrounded, which while the original concept had teenage terrorists the rest of the episodes thus far were mostly down to earth.
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Aug 12, 2014 11:07
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Can't hack poo poo on a private network. Not everything is connected to the internet.
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Serious Frolicking posted:Can't hack poo poo on a private network. Not everything is connected to the internet. that's what the US did to Iran though
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duvel posted:Also better be a good reason that Five let the bomb go off if she could access them anyway to let them know she found them? [/spoiler] I'm pretty sure that's because she wants any sympathy their cause might have gained them go out the window for killing people. Right now the show has made a point to tell us they have gone out of their way to kill people, and most likely it's because they want to bring something to light in a very extreme way for some reason (Unknown why they have chosen that path). By setting them up for their bomb to actually go off and kill/hurt people, she is screwing up their objective and probably making sure that any light that maybe would have been shed on why the bombings might be connected gets overlooked because they're now killing innocent people. I suspect the show will reveal it to us more in depth next episode.
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Caught the latest episode. Saw the "There's nothing you can do - oh wait now we need someone they won't be expecting to aid us" twist a mile away. In regards to putting corruption into the limelight through terrorist acts instead of just hacking, I'm pretty sure the reason is going to boil down to the amount of people this reaches and spreads to, compared to a simple hack-and-dump. Any time Sphinx moves, it's breaking news all over. A standard hacking job could probably be easily dismissed or die out due to the lack of people who care, but because of how widespread Sphinx is now due to their actions, they can expose the corruption on a grand scale and allow people to properly get outraged And yes, Five is deliberately coaxing them out by being completely alright with murdering people to scuttle their efforts, because if anyone dies, it'll be more focus on "those terrorists are wanton murderers and have to be stopped!" And you completely lose why they're fighting in the midst of condeming their actions. It's actually pretty drat clever and I've been impressed with how much thought has gone into this.
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Aug 14, 2014 19:47
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I just wish they went a little while longer with depicting the duo as people doing bad things for a dubious reason or at least anti-heroes before flipping them to "the good guys" by introducing someone who's like them but worse. A downer there, but I'm enjoying the episodes so far still, even if it's getting pretty easy to see where it's going. Plus, nice music.
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Aug 14, 2014 20:48
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Ugh the english in this episode is killing me
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Condiv posted:Ugh the english in this episode is killing me It's amazing and I want it in every anime.
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Aug 14, 2014 23:00
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The official with Five sounds pretty convincing though? - the lines in English in the last episode Also, Five is actively ruining the show for me even if her actions might be logical to some degree. She just really is that ridiculous and egregious. edit: "You're kidding!" Dessel fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Aug 15, 2014 |
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Aug 15, 2014 00:51
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 Can somebody tell Japan how chess works?
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Aug 15, 2014 01:20
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Oooh so close.
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Aug 15, 2014 03:14
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The white King and Queen are swapped too, pack it in, show is ruined
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Condiv posted:Ugh the english in this episode is killing me The Devil Tesla posted:It's amazing and I want it in every anime. For a second, I thought it was the triumphant return of whatever the gently caress language Fine from Symphogear spoke (you cannot convince me this is actual English), but then I rewatched said video. Okay, it's not quite that bad. Pretty close, though. It's weird to have every single voice actor be pretty good at English except the one character who is actually important. Especially since FBI guy also speaks good Japanese.
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This last episode killed the show for me, it went from "oh what is going to happen now?" into "uhg, this don't make sense". The 2 of them vs police + scrappy detective was fine for me
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Aug 15, 2014 09:53
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I'm just wondering how Nine and Twelve are going to team up with the scrappy detective. I mean he definitely hates them both for stealing plutonium but they can't handle Five alone, and at least they go out of their way to prevent people from dying.
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Kolos posted:This last episode killed the show for me, it went from "oh what is going to happen now?" into "uhg, this don't make sense". The 2 of them vs police + scrappy detective was fine for me
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I just watched all six episodes that are out today today. Show started off strong but got dumb pretty quick. Who the gently caress is letting this madwoman set bombs in an airport? Who the gently caress is actually doing it? This makes no Goddamn sense. Don't get me wrong, I've no doubt that a lot of shady poo poo goes down in our (American) intelligence services, but blowing up allies' airports seems a bit beyond the pale. I was willing to suspend disbelief for highschool terrorists (anime, after all), but this strains that disbelief past the breaking point.
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Yes_Cantaloupe posted:I just watched all six episodes that are out today today. Show started off strong but got dumb pretty quick. Who the gently caress is letting this madwoman set bombs in an airport? Who the gently caress is actually doing it? This makes no Goddamn sense. You know who this is believable to? Conspiracy theorists. This is set in a world where Bush did 9/11.
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Also the FBI is a law enforcement agency, not an intelligence service. Seriously though, what?
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Whenever anime mentions the FBI operating in/with other countries, I mentally change it to the CIA. Stolen plutonium in a foreign country doesn't even remotely call for domestic law enforcement. That reminds me, why did the security of that nuclear facility in the first episode let the kid out because he pointed a gun at the stuff, and why did they avoid shooting them? I was more or less willing to brush it off as necessary for the plot, but could there be a legitimate reason for it? Is plutonium actually very similar to red barrels?
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Yes_Cantaloupe posted:Whenever anime mentions the FBI operating in/with other countries, I mentally change it to the CIA. Stolen plutonium in a foreign country doesn't even remotely call for domestic law enforcement. I agree with you, the show is pretty lovely, but it's not because of nit-picky stuff like that (although there is plenty of it, and it does get annoying). I just find the plot and characters dull. Once I realized that they were not "real" terrorists and wouldn't kill a single person (even if many should have died it those kinds of attacks,) just so that they could become untarnished heroes at some point, I kinda gave up on the show. It has has a good premise but is obviously just going to take the safe road. Boring. I'm basically just watching it for the animation.
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paragon1 posted:Also the FBI is a law enforcement agency, not an intelligence service. Yes_Cantaloupe posted:Whenever anime mentions the FBI operating in/with other countries, I mentally change it to the CIA. Stolen plutonium in a foreign country doesn't even remotely call for domestic law enforcement.
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trucutru posted:I agree with you, the show is pretty lovely, but it's not because of nit-picky stuff like that (although there is plenty of it, and it does get annoying). I just find the plot and characters dull. Once I realized that they were not "real" terrorists and wouldn't kill a single person (even if many should have died it those kinds of attacks,) just so that they could become untarnished heroes at some point, I kinda gave up on the show. It has has a good premise but is obviously just going to take the safe road. Boring. I'm basically just watching it for the animation. Yeah, I think I might be more frustrated with the general quality of the show than these nitpicky things, they're just easier to focus on. It does look and sound nice, though. aparmenideanmonad posted:The US actually does send FBI and other domestic law enforcement people overseas as advisors with some regularity (FBI hostage negotiators etc. were sent to Nigeria recently, for instance). I agree that anime is usually pretty bad about mixing up the roles of the big scary US agencies, but this case is actually appropriate - the US would definitely offer to send law enforcement, intelligence, and military experts as well as people from NEST if any of our allies had their plutonium swiped and were undergoing a series of terrorist attacks. The implausible thing here is that the Japanese police are supposed to take orders from these US agents, but this is clearly an intentional plot point. Huh. The more you know. Thanks.
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Indiana_Krom posted:It makes sense when you realize that the FBI/Americans are complete irredeemable cackling villains in this show. As the final episode comes up, expect the Japanese to save the day and show their superiority over the villainous Americans. So I agree, episode killed the show for American viewers. Even "evil" fbi would be ok. But going to the airport to stop the bomb, the evil L, or the chess thing... oh the chess thing, is like finding were osama is but instead of sending a team to get the guy you send him love letters to lure him to go on a date to make him fall in your trap
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