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How is there no nWo option? What about the people who were 4 Lyfe? WCW was better, there's scientific proof. Vince cheated or something I think.
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GAYMIEN SANDOW posted:I think all of us are this kid: Nope this was me:  and this 
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laz0rbeak posted:I don't even remember seeing WCW as a kid, as it was the tail end of Hogan's run and the beginning of Warrior's failed run, and it seemed like that was pretty much all the wrestling there was. I was vaguely aware that WCW existed because I had seen some trading cards for them when I was collecting WWF cards, but the only guys I really knew were Flair and Sting. I eventually quit watching around the time Hogan stopped being a full-time performer, and didn't get back into wrestling until I played WCW World Tour with friends and really enjoyed it a lot. I started watching WCW in around 97, and while I started following WWF too, and played their shittier Acclaim games, it wasn't until 99 when WCW got really unwatchable and WWF stopped running Austin vs. Undertaker that I switched over for good. It probably helped that AKI jumped ship to make Wrestlemania 2000 and No Mercy. It's not an odd way to see things, WWF's roster was dire outside of those main event guys. Most of the card was utter garbage.
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laz0rbeak posted:I think your bias might be creeping in, but I don't think that's particularly true. Once the Attitude Era was actually rolling post screwjob, they had plenty of talent in basically every level of the company. 1997 is pretty top-heavy and the shows generally sucked, but even then there was Rock and Triple H working their way through the rest of the midcard. Until Jericho and the Radicalz came in the overwhelming consensus was the WWF had a weak undercard and strong main events while WCW had a strong undercard and weak main events. In 1997 Rock was no good, he barely had a year of experience and Triple H was still a work in progress. This isn't just my bias, look at some of the other posts in this thread, look at the kind of talent WWF was putting out there. WCW had an insane amount of talent signed at that time while the WWF could barely fill a Royal Rumble.
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WWF having a weaker undercard roster in 97-99 doesn't even mean the shows were worse. In 96 and 97 WCW had a better product, and in early 98 the PPVs were of roughly equal quality but by 99 it wasn't close. WCW had an amazing roster until the end of 99 and Spring Stampede 99 was the last good PPV they put on for 23 months. Slamboree 99 was decent and then the entire summer was the biggest pile of poo poo wrestling had seen up to that point. Literal poo poo too!
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Jul 14, 2014 07:54
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laz0rbeak posted:Yeah, this supports pretty much exactly what I said. It wasn't that the workers couldn't go, it was mostly the style of booking that was taking over at the time, where every match is angle development in disguise, so everything ends in a DQ or a run-in or a turn. In addition to Austin, Undertaker, Triple H, and an on his way our the door HBK, they also had Goldust, Owen Hart and Vader on their roster and didn't use them on that card, which gives you a clue of how bizarre Vinny Russo's talent evaluations can be. They also had guys that could genuinely work like Furnas and LaFon and 2 Cold Scorpio in the undercard, but they weren't over and WWF didn't bother trying to re-package them. You are really stretching with some of those names, especially since Furnas and LaFon were completely wrecked and 2 Cold Scorpio was likewise past his prime. Goldust is great now but in the ring as Goldust in the 90s he was very average, worse when his gimmick was focused on being as homophobic as possible.
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Oh and I will not stand for someone implying that 2 time IWGP Champion Scott Norton was an inferior talent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKxXr1s2TDw He once ate 298 pancakes, five more than the world record.
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