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Welcome friends, to another year of football hell. The World Cup is over, Belgium didn't win, belgend's body isn't cold in his grave yet and I'm already here to post the Belgian league thread and shamelessly steal his OP. Waiting until he's back isn't an option because we need to talk about Belgian football RIGHT NOW!!! So, now, the copy-paste I talked about : ~ ~ ~  Royal Sporting Club Anderlecht aka Sporting aka mauves et blancs/paarswit (purple and white) aka total scum i hate them ~~DEFENDING LEAGUE CHAMPION~~ What did these scrubs accomplish? Nationwide: This team is basically the juggernaut of Belgian football, they've been League champion for a whopping 33 times. Their longest streak is five wins from 63-64 to 67-68. They haven't been relegated since 1935. They've won the Belgian Cup 9 times, their longest streak being four wins from 71-72 to 75-76. Anderlecht have won the Supercup 11 times, always as League champion. Anderlecht are one of the three clubs who won the Belgian League Cup. They won the last edition in 2001. They've won two editions of the Bruges Matins, beating Club Brugge twice. International: Anderlecht are the most succesful Belgian team in Europe, winning: -The European Cup Winners' Cup twice by beating West Ham United in 1976 and Austria Wien in 1978. -The UEFA Cup by beating Benfica in 1983. -The UEFA Supercup twice by beating Bayern Munchen in 1976 and Liverpool in 1978. 2013-14: Saw the other clubs gently caress up and fumbled their way into the championship, they missed all their penalties and that's about the only worthwhile thing about their season last year. Somehow I didn't have to change this from last year. Trainer: Besnik Hasi Main JPL rivals: Club Brugge, Standard Liège You've probably heard of: Anthony Vanden Borre, Sacha Kljestan Founded: 1908 Goaltune: Blur - Song 2  Sportvereniging Zulte Waregem aka Essevee What did these scrubs accomplish? Nationwide: They were Second Division champion in 2005, haven't left the Pro League since and won the Belgian Cup in 2006. International: Waregem's biggest accomplishment in Europe was losing to Newcastle in the 3rd round of the UEFA cup. 2013-14: Nobody really expected them to replicate their great previous season, but they somehow managed to cling on and avoid falling into mid-table mediocrity. The season was characterised by a whole bunch of drama around Thorgan Hazard, some really promising moments like the first three games of the play-offs and the search for a decent striker. Trainer: Francky Dury Main JPL rivals: Kortrijk You've probably heard of: Official World Cup Keeper Sammy Bossut, mini-Benteke and mini-mini-Hazard Founded: 2001 (Fusion of KSV Waregem and Zultse VV) Goaltune: Otto Knows - Million Voices  Club Brugge Koninklijke Voetbalvereniging aka blauw-zwart (blue and black) aka Club What did these scrubs accomplish? Nationwide: Club Brugge have become League champion 13 times, their longest streak being three wins from 75-76 to 77-78. They've won the Belgian Cup 10 times, their longest streak being 2 wins from 1994-95 to 95-96. Club have won the Supercup 13 times, 7 times as league champion and 6 times as cup winner, longest streak being four wins from 2002 to 2005. Club Brugge won the very first Supercup against SK Beveren in 1980. They've won the Bruges Matins 19 times (which isn't really an accomplishment when you're always in the finals since 1991) with a current seven win streak. A comeback against a feisty Wolfsburg kept the streak going. International: Club Brugge have had mixed success outside of Belgium. -Lost the 1976 UEFA Cup final and 1978 European Champion Clubs' Cup final, both against Liverpool. -Won the 1981 Kirin Cup. 2013-14: Did well but not really all that great, fired their manager, continued to do well but not all that great. Trainer: Michel Preud'homme Main JPL Rivals: AA Gent, Anderlecht, Cercle Brugge You've probably heard of: Timmy Simons, Oscar Duarte, Mathew Ryan, Davy De fauw (noooo) Founded: 1891 Goaltune: Jordan & Baker - Explode  Royal Standard Club de Liège aka Les Rouches (The Reds) What did these scrubs accomplish? Nationwide: They've been Belgian League champion ten times now, their longest winning streak is three wins, from 68-69 to 70-71. Their last win was the 2008-2009 season. Standard has won the Supercup four times, once as cup winner and three times as league champion. Standard has won the Belgian Cup 6 times, the last time in 2011. They haven't been relegated since 1921. International: Liège's biggest accomplishment in Europe was losing 2-1 to Barcelona in the UEFA Cup Winners' Cup finals in 1982. 2013-14: Spent the entire season thrashing everyone, seemingly streaming straight towards a cosy league victory before bottling it hard and giving Anderlecht the title. Trainer: Guy Luzon Main JPL rivals: Anderlecht, Charleroi You've probably heard of: Igor De Camargo, Jelle Van Damme Founded: 1898 Goaltune: The Champions - We Are The Best, now to be played sarcastically.  Koninklijke Racing Club Genk What did these scrubs accomplish? They won the Belgian League three times and the Belgian Cup four times. They have won the Supercup once in 2011 as league champion. They've also won the Second Division once, the Final Round twice and haven't been relegated since 1996. 2013-14: The fact that Genk still managed to come in sixth really is all the proof we need that the JPL is utter gash. Trainer: Emilio Ferrera Main JPL rivals: Genk You've probably heard of: Jelle Vossen, Julien Gorius Founded: 1988 (As fusion between THOR Waterschei and KFC Winterslag) Goaltune: D'Europe & Dreuver - Racing Song  Koninklijke Sporting Club Lokeren Oost-Vlaanderen aka Tricolores What did these scrubs accomplish? They won the Belgian Cup, their very first trophy, in 2011 and repeated this feat in 2014. They were also the Second Division champion in 1996 and haven't been relegated since. 2013-14: Played about half as well as the previous season, still came in fifth and won the cup. Trainer: Peter Maes Main JPL rivals: AA Gent, Waasland-Beveren You've probably heard of: Boubacar Barry, Ivan Leko Founded: 1923 Goaltune: TC Matic - Oh La La La  Yellow Red Koninklijke Voetbalclub Mechelen aka The Yellow Reds aka Malinois aka Malinwa aka De Kakkers (The Shitters) What did these scrubs accomplish? Nationwide: Four time First Division winner, five time Second Division winner, two time Final Round winner, one time Third Division winner (after bankruptcy), one time Belgian Cup winner. They haven't been relegated since 2007. International: 1988 European Cup Winners' Cup winner, beating Ajax with 1-0. 1988 European Supercup winner, beating PSV Eindhoven 1989 Joan Gamper Trophy winner, beating Sochaux 2013-14: Changed managers a lot. Didn't get relegated. Trainer: Aleksandar Janković Main JPL rivals: Lierse You've probably heard of: Benjamin Mokulu, Mads Junker Founded: 1904 Goaltune: None  Koninklijke Voetbalclub Kortrijk aka De Kerels (The Dudes) What did these scrubs accomplish? Won the Final Round three times and the Second Division twice, haven't been relegated since 2007. 2013-14: Looked to challenge a play-off one spot but ultimately it was an unremarkable midtable club season Trainer: Yves Vanderhaeghe Main JPL rivals: Zulte Waregem You've probably heard of: Teddy Chevalier, Gertjan De Mets Founded: 1901 Goaltune: Tenpole Tudor - Wunderbar (who the gently caress knows)  Royale Sporting du Pays de Charleroi aka the Zebras What did these scrubs accomplish? They've been second division champions twice, the last time was in 2012 2013-14: Had a really nice season. They were probably one of my favourite clubs to watch. Trainer: Felice Mazzu Main JPL rivals: Standard Liège You've probably heard of: Giuseppe Rossini, Olivier Renard Founded: 1904 Goaltune: Cidinho & Doca - Rap Das Armas  Koninklijke Atletiek Associatie Gent aka The Buffalos What did these scrubs accomplish? Nationwide: AA Gent have been relegated a few times and are a four time Second Division champion, as well as Second Division Final Round Champion in 1989. After 1989, Gent haven't been relegated. Gent have won the Belgian cup three times and won the Supercup as cup winner in 1984. International: AA Gent's biggest accomplishment in Europe is being a runner-up twice in the Intertoto Cup. 1)2006: Lost from Grasshopper-Club Zurich in the Central-East region 2)2007: Lost from Aalborg BK in the Northern Region 2013-14: A comedy of errors, oh my god, being a Gent fan was pretty bad last season, again. Trainer: Hein Vanhaezebrouck Main JPL rivals: Club Brugge You've probably heard of: Bernd Thijs, César Arzo Founded: 1900 Goaltune: Kernkraft 400 - Zombie Nation  Koninklijke Lierse Sportkring aka De Pallieters What did these scrubs accomplish? Four time Belgian League winner, last time in 1997. Two time runner-up Two time Belgian Cup winner, last time in 1999. One time runner-up Two time Belgian Supercup winner, 1997 as champion and 1999 as cup winner. 2013-14: poo poo and boring, someone get them relegated already. Trainer: Stanley Menzo Main JPL rivals: Mechelen You've probably heard of: Daylon Claasen, Matz Sels Founded: 1906 Goaltune: Mannenkoor Karrespoor - Mooi Man (were polling for a new goaltune last year)  Koninklijke Voetbalclub Red Star Waasland-Sportkring Beveren aka de Wase Wolven (the Wolves of the Waasland) What did these scrubs accomplish? SK Beveren had a few titles and a supercup or two I'm pretty sure. Sadly this club has Waasland's honours and not Beveren's so apart from winning the Second Division final round in 2013 they've done gently caress all!! 2013-14: Were poo poo but then luckily for them some shittier sides showed up Trainer: Ronny Van Geneugden Main JPL rivals: Lokeren You've probably heard of: Jurgen Cavens, Colin Coosemans Founded: 2010 (Fusion of Red Star Waasland and SK Beveren) Goaltune: Gloria Gaynor - I Will Survive  Cercle Brugge Koninklijke Sportvereniging aka Groen en Zwart (Green and Black) What did these scrubs accomplish? Won the league title three times, last time in 1930. Four time Second Division champion, haven't been relegated since 2003. 2013-14: Improved a lot over last season - or those other teams got much worse. Either way, they're still here. Trainer: Lorenzo Staelens Main JPL rivals: Club Brugge You've probably heard of: Bart Buysse, Gregory Mertens Founded: 1899 Goaltune: The Fratellis - Chelsea Dagger  Koninklijke Voetbalclub Oostende aka de Kustboys (the Boys from the Coast) KV Oostende are the closest team to you if you're from across the pond or across the bigger pond. If you want to look the least plastic this club is for you. They had a real good season in the second division, but are best known in this thread for maybe, maybe not, actually not, no, not being bought by Waregem chairman Decuyper. 2013-14: Went from winning the 2013 second division championship to a more than comfortable midtable finish, despite a difficult early season. Trainer: Frederik Vanderbiest Main JPL rivals: - You've probably heard of: Tom Van Imschoot, Xavier Luissint Founded: 1981 (fusion of VG and AS Oostende) Goaltune: TC Matic - Oh La La La THE FRESH BLOOD:  Royal Mouscron-Péruwelz aka whatever What did these scrubs accomplish? Not much! At one point during the 90s, they found themselves in the fourth provincial division. However, in the last few seasons Mouscron has shot up the ranks, going from fourth to third division in 2011, from third to second in 2012 and now finally to first division in 2014 after winning the second division final round. Trainer: Rachid Chihab Founded: 1921 as Racing Club Péruwelz, fusion with Mouscron in 2010  KVC Westerlo aka Westel What did these scrubs accomplish? Played in the Pro League between 1997 and 2012, after which they spent two years in the second division. Never really achieved anything, aside from getting kicked out of Europe early twice, and will hopefully continue to do so. Trainer: Dennis van Wijk Founded: 1933 loving playoffs, how do they work? - 1 to 6 play against eachother in one group with their points halved, top spot becomes champion, fourth (or fifth) spot plays against the winner of: - 7 to 14 play against eachother in two groups starting from zero, top spots play against eachother, winner goes against aforementioned fourth (or fifth) - 15 and 16 go against eachother to decide for immediate relegation, 16 starting from zero, 15 getting three points and the home advantage in three of the five matches. Winner goes to the Final Round, loser relegates. WHO'S IN EUROPE HUH??? Champions League: Anderlecht Standard Europa League: Club Brugge Lokeren Zulte Waregem Fans: First Division: AA Gent: beedeebee Anderlecht: the sex ghost Cercle Brugge: oystertoadfish Club Brugge: Bacon of the Sea, belgend, Green-Eyed Loco Man, uXs Lokeren: inktvis Oud-Heverlee Leuven: Punc Standard Liege: biglad, Newbori Zulte Waregem: R.Mute Lower Divisions: Eendracht Aalst (Second Division): DjCoax, malder White Star Woluwé (Second Division): byolante Why do we need the thread RIGHT NOW? Because, friends, football is upon us. Zulte Waregem will be playing ZAWISZA BYDGOSZCZ (yes that's copy pasted) in the Europa League qualifier on Thursday and again the next week. Meanwhile, the league starts on the 25th with Standard - Charleroi being our opening match. LET'S POST
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Dedicating this thread to belgend, who did not post the balls.
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Jul 15, 2014 22:10
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Mouscron sounds like a name you'd find in Groland
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Jul 15, 2014 23:32
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I'm going to the pre-season friendly between Gent and Saint Etienne tonight. Originally we'd play Olympique Lyon, but they got a new trainer and didn't want to play us anymore  Also curious how the 10(!) new players we've picked up so far will perform. Hint: it'll probably be bad, but we'll win, because who loses meaningless friendlies at home? don't quote that last sentence if we manage to gently caress it up anyway
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Jul 16, 2014 07:21
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I'm also pretty pumped about the transfers this window - it's a lot more interesting than last year, at least. I'm part worried, part curious. I'm slightly grumpy about losing both De fauw and Kums. I can get that De fauw wants to go to Brugge, after all the drama last year. But Kums only just got here and he's going to Ghent. Ghent. No offence bedeebee, but Ghent. Luckily, we also got a bunch of new players and they're not all from the French second division. In fact, it's like players are starting to take that youth development thing seriously. I'm doing all the moves right now, for sure.
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Jul 16, 2014 12:29
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Dury wants to buy another three players. I've got the horn. Also lol at: quote:Anderlecht heeft matig geoefend tegen vierdeklasser FC Luik. De landskampioen speelde met voornamelijk jonge spelers, versterkt met spits Aleksandar Mitrovic. De Serviër miste wel een strafschop in de eerste helft, maar na de pauze zette hij Anderlecht toch op voorsprong. Samuel Armenteros, terug van een uitleenbeurt aan Feyenoord, zette twee minuten na zijn invalbeurt de 0-2 op het bord. ALSO I totally forgot that sunday is the day of the most worthless of all trophies - The Belgian Supercup! I hope it goes to penalties, I do.
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Jul 16, 2014 21:22
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R. Mute posted:I'm also pretty pumped about the transfers this window - it's a lot more interesting than last year, at least. I'm part worried, part curious. I'm slightly grumpy about losing both De fauw and Kums. I can get that De fauw wants to go to Brugge, after all the drama last year. But Kums only just got here and he's going to Ghent. Ghent. No offence bedeebee, but Ghent. I really don't see Zulte Waregem repeating their performances of the last two seasons without Thorgan Hazard. Not only is he gone, but you don't have your best midfielders anymore either (no delaplace/malanda/kums), nor your best strikers (no Habibou/Leye) and you can only get lucky with youth players so often. They're not going to get relegated any time soon, but them managing to get playoff 1 again would be amazing and even more an achievement than the last two times.
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Jul 16, 2014 23:23
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We actually didn't really see a drop in quality after losing Delaplace last year and Malanda, Habibou and Leye during the january transfer window (Leye being dead counts). Okay, so Kums was a direct replacement of Delaplace, but surely we'll find someone to take on that role. We already bought midfielders who couldn't cut it in England - but we're not in England. Add to that Kylian Hazard and Conté/N'Diaye and I'm cautiously optimistic. Maybe Hinostroza will actually come back? Where the hell is that guy? Our options up front aren't too bad either. Sylla, Naessens, Benteke, Bogonda, Trajkovski, Plet and I guess Cacérès is still there too. I dunno, I can see it working. Obviously losing Thorgan will hurt, but considering the fact that both Lokeren and Genk managed to get into Play Off 1, I think it should be possible to stay in. Another title run is out of the question, though. Can't see that happening. People weren't optimistic last year either.
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Jul 17, 2014 02:44
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Hi Belgian friends, this season I will be following Club to see Oscar Duarte and also Oostende to see future promise JJ Ruiz.
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Jul 17, 2014 02:48
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Drogadon posted:Hi Belgian friends, this season I will be following Club to see Oscar Duarte and also Oostende to see future promise JJ Ruiz. +1
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Jul 18, 2014 21:41
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You're both in luck. Both Club and Oostende are moderately entertaining to watch. This is high praise for the JPL. I hear Brugge just tied with Bordeaux in De Brugse Metten. Timmy Simons missed a penalty. In other news, Zulte Waregem beat their opponent, the Polish cup winner with the funny name, with 2-1. I didn't see it happen, because nobody streams this sort of thing, but here's what I got out of the write-ups and the live-reports. I don't think much could've been done about their goal, watching the replay. Very lovely goal. Ours were pluckier, but it seems like there were some lovely plays by several of our lads. Aneke seems to own, Bogonda continues to improve and Conte/N'Diaye still own. Can't wait to see the other additions in action. Or y'know, actually see the ones that played in this game.
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Jul 18, 2014 22:24
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I'm a big fan of the Belgian league.
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Jul 18, 2014 23:05
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You should be.
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Jul 19, 2014 00:29
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Two-thirds of the Eendracht Aalst fanbase posts on somethingawful.com
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Jul 20, 2014 07:59
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I totally forgot that the Supercup was happening, but all predictions for this season instantly came true as the other team bottled it hard enough for Anderlecht to sneak their way to the trophy. Lokeren lost 2-1 after an own goal in the 91st minute, after both teams refused to actually score more than one goal in the 90 minutes before. so congatulations, I guess
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Jul 20, 2014 20:07
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I hope you Standard fans are pumped about the best transfer news so far
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Jul 21, 2014 00:19
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I'd like to congratulate Anderlecht on this first victory and express my sadness for missing the great club OHL. (gently caress no, finally no more idiots crying in Leuven when they lost - again)
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Jul 21, 2014 21:47
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Well, Zulte Waregem won another match I didn't get to watch, defeating the Poles again and qualifying for the third round of the EL. Plet, Aneke, some pole and Skulason scored - Skulason doing so after a Pole got sent off for literally punching N'Diaye. Tomorrow the real football begins. Get pumped.
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Jul 24, 2014 20:56
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Jul 25, 2014 19:36
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Drogadon posted:Hi Belgian friends, this season I will be following Club to see Oscar Duarte and also Oostende to see future promise JJ Ruiz. Goals scored by Duarte today: 1. Hooray for the glorious FCB. (We won 0-2 against some scrub team.) Season predictions: * When Vazquez and/or Odjidja are fit (= not injured or semi-fit), we will do well. Otherwise we will struggle to create scoring opportunities. * Vazquez nor Odjidja will be fit for the entire season. Thus, if we don't get another player for that position, we are screwed.
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Jul 26, 2014 19:21
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drat, I was in class and missed it. Good for Duarte.
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Jul 26, 2014 20:09
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Drogadon posted:drat, I was in class and missed it. Good for Duarte. Here's a summary of the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qve8JrDJMk That account posts all the games so you should probably subscribe if you want to see them.
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Jul 27, 2014 11:56
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What happened with Genk? Weren't they supposed to improve over last year?
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Jul 27, 2014 21:37
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r-r-round-up ~ Standard 3-0 Charleroi Waasland-Beveren 0-2 Club Brugge Westerlo 1-0 Lokeren Cercle Brugge 0-0 AA Gent Lierse SK 2-0 Oostende KV Mechelen 3-1 Racing Genk Anderlecht 3-1 Moeskroen-Péruwelz Zulte Waregem 2-0 Kortrijk Notable results (all of them): Standard beats rivals Charleroi without too many problems, despite losing many important players. Charleroi, despite losing practically nobody, looked nothing like the side that hounded Standard last year. Westerlo, newcomers to the first division, drat well beat last years cup winners Lokeren, despite there being some controversy surrounding an uncalled foul before the goal. AA Gent's strategy of buying a bunch of decent players from the JPL hasn't really impressed, with them drawing against Cercle - a draw which could've very well been a defeat. Ghent will have to hope that as time goes on, they'll start working as a team - but hope really isn't a thing that comes naturally for Ghent. Lierse beat Oostende which I personally found unexpected. Ruiz was subbed in at 67'. KV Mechelen beat Genk... yeah. We beat those fuckers Kortrijk. DUARTE WATCH: 
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Jul 27, 2014 21:52
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Punc posted:What happened with Genk?
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I have both Club and Oostende favorited in fotmob but I thinkI'll need to plan ahead more if I want to actually catch a game, thanks for the updates.uXs posted:Here's a summary of the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qve8JrDJMk Thanks, subscribed.
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Jul 27, 2014 21:59
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R. Mute posted:AA Gent's strategy of buying a bunch of decent players from the JPL hasn't really impressed, with them drawing against Cercle - a draw which could've very well been a defeat. Ghent will have to hope that as time goes on, they'll start working as a team - but hope really isn't a thing that comes naturally for Ghent. I only saw the highlights of the game (all 3 of them yes) but it seems like Ghent has problems staying in possession. That and they don't really have a creative player who can open up the opponent's defence. So I think it's pretty bizarre we've sold Kagé. He occassionally had great individual actions. Shame he didn't get a long with Hein. Apparently he didn't show up at the club the last week, so yeah... Habibou will leave soon too. He tweeted (and deleted) something before the game, when he found out he wasn't selected. Something about how there's no honesty in modern football anymore and that the truth will surface soon. Weird stuff, but it's another player with a big ego who'll leave. Hein is removing all the bad apples, but I'm afraid he's removing all the creativity too. Also, wonder what will happen to El Ghanassy. Won't be sad to see him leave 
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Jul 28, 2014 20:52
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Habibou did say it wasn't about not being selected, but... yeah. It's still a shame, Habibou was okay. He wasn't really a good player, but he did know how to score a goal. As to Gent as a whole - the best description I've read so far was the entry about the player presentation on the guide to the Gentse Feesten, something along the lines of: let's go meet the players who'll disappoint us this year.
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R. Mute posted:As to Gent as a whole - the best description I've read so far was the entry about the player presentation on the guide to the Gentse Feesten, something along the lines of: let's go meet the players who'll disappoint us this year. Heh. It's probably true though. And those Gentse Feesten guides are always funny. However, can't wait till sunday. I miss the football!
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Jul 28, 2014 21:53
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FIRST TRAINER DEATH OF THE SEASON Emilio Ferrera (Genk's coach) is fired after one (1) matchday in the new season. Congratulations on that record Emilio!
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Jul 29, 2014 07:53
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Only one matchday and there's also been a storm (no, not that one) in Brugge: https://www.flickr.com/photos/clubbrugge/sets/72157645989271724/
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Jul 29, 2014 12:23
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beedeebee posted:
it's also really great for kv mechelen: your team is so bad we fired our coach because of the shame of losing against you uXs posted:Only one matchday and there's also been a storm (no, not that one) in Brugge: https://www.flickr.com/photos/clubbrugge/sets/72157645989271724/
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Jul 29, 2014 13:08
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Good news if you like jokes: Genk will be training behind closed doors for the rest of the week.
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Bad news if you like Ghent: looks like Milicevic is injured and will miss sunday's game. That means we don't have a player who can take corners or free-kicks. Or give assists.
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Jul 30, 2014 07:53
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Kums? Maybe?
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y'know, this is another match i can't stream anywhere and usually that's fairly okay. i can see just what's happening on the sporza feed. but this match... two early goals for the belarusians, two substitutes for zulte, one goal for zulte, one straight up red card for zulte and another sub for schachtor... what the gently caress is going on there? e: 1-3 ughghgh R. Mute fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Jul 31, 2014 |
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Jul 31, 2014 19:49
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also Duarte just scored for Brugge
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Jul 31, 2014 19:49
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Missed the first half, third goal just now was nice.
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2-5. just wow.
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well, going from one of the best defences in the league to one of the worst will take some getting used to
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