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ROBO_ERECTUS
Sep 5, 2007

Let me take you for a ride.
Its pretty cool, made it to the haunted forest, still really early. One thing that annoys me is the AI for your partners, is there anyway to keep them from acting like idiots and tanking ranged attacks? They seem kinda useless.

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Eye of Widesauron
Mar 29, 2014

Their AI is pretty bad so I always had them stay close to me

Also gently caress Spiky Tiger

ROBO_ERECTUS
Sep 5, 2007

Let me take you for a ride.
I also dont like being stunlocked in a corner to death, maybe im just bad.

Matoi Ryuko
Jan 6, 2004


Get two friends to play with you.

Malcolm
May 11, 2008
Or if you don't have friends you should be good at pressing select 3 times as fast as a normal person and microing the entire party. Also learn how to arrange AI on the chess board and adjust charge levels, 30 hours in you'll see what I mean.

Foxhound
Sep 5, 2007
A good game.

I was actually thinking of playing throug it and the sequel again.

RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS
Dec 21, 2010
i started playing this a year or two ago but never finished. i hope this helps, OP

hubris.height
Jan 6, 2005

Pork Pro

Malcolm posted:

Or if you don't have friends you should be good at pressing select 3 times as fast as a normal person and microing the entire party. Also learn how to arrange AI on the chess board and adjust charge levels, 30 hours in you'll see what I mean.

Use a Tool Assisted Run and construct the perfect speed run while controlling all 3 people by yourself.

Does this exist? It really should, because I want to watch that speedrun.


Foxhound posted:

A good game.

I was actually thinking of playing throug it and the sequel again.

The Sequel is so good but I always get half way through and shrug and go back to something else.

SeXReX
Jan 9, 2009

I drink, mostly.
And get mad at people on the internet


:emptyquote:

hubris.height posted:

Use a Tool Assisted Run and construct the perfect speed run while controlling all 3 people by yourself.

Does this exist? It really should, because I want to watch that speedrun.



afaik you can ignore cooldown periods by doing this so even the RTA runs have them swaping players like a mother bitch.

Kewpuh
Oct 22, 2003

when i dip you dip we dip
that game has some ballin rear end music

FuriousGeorge
Jan 23, 2006

Ah, the simple joys of a monkey knife-fight.
Grimey Drawer

Kewpuh posted:

that game has some ballin rear end music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gPLzZHzcQ0

barkbell
Apr 14, 2006

woof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EaeGO_NheY

this song owns

hubris.height
Jan 6, 2005

Pork Pro
just listen to this because its all good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGK3usiX31s

barkbell
Apr 14, 2006

woof
also the sprite is op just mana steal and magic lock all enemies on screen

Matoi Ryuko
Jan 6, 2004


hubris.height posted:

just listen to this because its all good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGK3usiX31s

Yeah this is really the only way to convey just how good the soundtrack is.

Foxhound
Sep 5, 2007

hubris.height posted:

The Sequel is so good but I always get half way through and shrug and go back to something else.

I like them both equally pretty much, they're different enough that you can't really compare them side by side very easily. SoM2 does get a bit grindy towards the middle though when you wanna do the first class swap.


just killed Jewel Eater hells yeah suck it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZXQFmB-fQM

mods plz namechange to drat drat drum or drat drat dumb

Plebian Parasite
Oct 12, 2012

been a while since i played som but lom is still loving rad

Eye of Widesauron
Mar 29, 2014

Does multiplayer SoM work allright using Hamachi or whatever? That could be fun sometime

ROBO_ERECTUS
Sep 5, 2007

Let me take you for a ride.

Malcolm posted:

Or if you don't have friends you should be good at pressing select 3 times as fast as a normal person and microing the entire party. Also learn how to arrange AI on the chess board and adjust charge levels, 30 hours in you'll see what I mean.

That seems kinda hard, also i have no idea if im using the chess board correctly, if i put one of the characters somewhere between attack and keepaway, does that mean they will attack from far away and kite the enemies, doesnt seem to work for me. Also yes gently caress the spiny tiger, is it just impossible to avoid its magic spells?

ROBO_ERECTUS
Sep 5, 2007

Let me take you for a ride.

Widestancer posted:

Does multiplayer SoM work allright using Hamachi or whatever? That could be fun sometime

If i could get the multiplayer to work that would be awesome, the more the merrier.

Minera
Sep 26, 2007

All your friends and foes,
they thought they knew ya,
but look who's in your heart now.
Legend of Mana is the best one imo

Also it looks the best and has a baller soundtrack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZSRfX50bK4

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Matoi Ryuko
Jan 6, 2004


Minrad posted:

Legend of Mana is the best one imo

Also it looks the best and has a baller soundtrack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZSRfX50bK4

Holy jesus poo poo!! AN IMPZONE SIGNATURE!!!

Minera
Sep 26, 2007

All your friends and foes,
they thought they knew ya,
but look who's in your heart now.

Matoi Ryuko posted:

Holy jesus poo poo!! AN IMPZONE SIGNATURE!!!

01011001
Dec 26, 2012


i dont ever think i finished secret of mana. final fantasy adventure and sd3 were extremely my poo poo though

Plebian Parasite
Oct 12, 2012

Minrad posted:

Legend of Mana is the best one imo

Also it looks the best and has a baller soundtrack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZSRfX50bK4

i love how years and years later, the weapon forging system still hasn't been fully figured out past 'poo poo gets overpowered if you do very specific things'

Relin
Oct 6, 2002

You have been a most worthy adversary, but in every game, there are winners and there are losers. And as you know, in this game, losers get robotizicized!
legend of mana is pretty but the plot is completely incoherent

Matoi Ryuko
Jan 6, 2004



Kewpuh
Oct 22, 2003

when i dip you dip we dip

01011001 posted:

i dont ever think i finished secret of mana. final fantasy adventure and sd3 were extremely my poo poo though

listen to this boss music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCUdhcRQMC4

Matoi Ryuko
Jan 6, 2004


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCRdVpfY-BE

Minera
Sep 26, 2007

All your friends and foes,
they thought they knew ya,
but look who's in your heart now.
i bet your game didn't even get its own anime theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hW-MHssUd8

hubris.height
Jan 6, 2005

Pork Pro
why are there so many great games with ~composers~ for the snes / 16-bit era and nothing with as much acclaim currently?

or was it just the only part of the game that was extraordinary so it got a lot more focus?

Minera
Sep 26, 2007

All your friends and foes,
they thought they knew ya,
but look who's in your heart now.
I think it was just a right time, right place thing. Composers are certainly capable of making good music still, but since there's not as many RPGs that day that need to have the pacing carried by good music, they don't really get to show case it like they used. The latest mana game, which is some pay to win japanese phone slop judging by this video, has the same composer as Secret of Mana/SD3 did. The music still sounds good, tho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5hzOCQzUJQ

The lady that did Legend of Mana's soundtrack is still making music too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr70dLy5yKg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dMD2uGkewQ

These still sound pretty good imo so I guess it's nostalgia? :shrug:

hubris.height
Jan 6, 2005

Pork Pro
There is still music being made for video games that is good, I was not trying to imply that music somehow got worse. But the music at some point was given a backseat, and became less memorable.

The most recent memorable game song I can think of is the Mass Effect Galaxy Map music.

But yeah its probably nostalgia.

Seshoho Cian
Jul 26, 2010

I think Secret of Evermore was the best game in the series.

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

hubris.height posted:

But yeah its probably nostalgia.

Music (and sound in general) in games used to be srs bsns. Just remembering what monkey island 2 did with iMUSE, that poo poo was absolutely mind blowing.

Now they usually just record 20 tracks and slap em over the game in a semi-random order and it's "done". It can be really good music, but the direction is too often lacking.

These days, graphics are much more important to publishers than sound ever was, and of course music also suffers for it.

barkbell
Apr 14, 2006

woof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGXcnWUqV-Y

Ekster
Jul 18, 2013

tbh a lot of game music is ambient so even if it's great for setting the mood you won't consciously notice it

PixoPoxo
Dec 11, 2006
Am get!
there's an exploit in the game where if you cast another spell immediately after another you can "stack" the damage together as well as effectively stunning enemies, hth op

Shifty gimbal
Dec 28, 2008

Hey you... I got something to tell ya
Biscuit Hider
When the furniture starts attacking you, you'll know that your day is about to get real rotten.

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The Wu-Tang Secret
Nov 28, 2004

:synpa:

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