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I have this game but I literally can't force myself past the first 30 minutes because the combat is boring and the stealth is the worst stealth
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so much about that game was good except the gameplay was garbage, like most of obsidians games edit: yeah the guy above me summed it up even better also did you guys play their south park game?
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Jul 19, 2014 07:49
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Dirty Job posted:I have this game but I literally can't force myself past the first 30 minutes because the combat is boring and the stealth is the worst stealth use fists
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Jul 19, 2014 07:50
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time to confess: I actually only watched an LP of the game cause I heard the gameplay sucks but I love stealth games so I was still curious I kind of regret not purchasing and playing it first cause everything else is awesome about the game, guess I'll buy it on sale and check it out
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Jul 19, 2014 07:50
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its fun gently caress the haters dont use the cover system ever
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Jul 19, 2014 07:53
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I actually liked AP's gameplay. I enjoyed the power curve (start as a pretty bad spy and become an overpowered killing machine), the variety in builds (yeah, pistols are stronger, but everything ends up being really strong if you level it up) and I thought the stealth was serviceable. e: I really liked the timed conversations in AP, and it's one of the few games in which I'd say the conversations were part of the gameplay. Mash posted:also did you guys play their south park game? Yeah, I thought it was good. It was basically an 8 hours long South Park episode, with a lot of references to the series. The combat was way too easy on Hard, it ended up being repetitive and boring (from what I've read, it's because Ubisoft had Obsidian make it easier). It's a great South Park game for South Park fans, but not really a great Obsidian RPG for RPG fans. Falsum fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Jul 19, 2014 |
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Jul 19, 2014 07:59
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Mash posted:so much about that game was good except the gameplay was garbage, like most of obsidians games obsidians made like 4 games havent they alpha protocol, the south park game, new vegas, dungeon siege 3 i thought the latter two were pretty fun, gameplay wise
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Jul 19, 2014 08:00
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They also made NWN2 and its addons e: And Kotor 2. Falsum fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Jul 19, 2014 |
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Jul 19, 2014 08:02
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Falsum posted:It's a great South Park game for South Park fans, but not really a great Obsidian RPG for RPG fan. yeah that's a pretty accurate way of describing that game. as a south park fan i really did enjoy the jokes and references (which were loving EVERYWHERE jesus christ (heh)) but i was disappointed with the third act of that game even though kennys boss fight was kind of well done fronz posted:obsidians made like 4 games havent they yeah they haven't made too many games but each one just always has some sort of big problem and don't forget about kotor2
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Jul 19, 2014 08:05
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Mash posted:yeah that's a pretty accurate way of describing that game. as a south park fan i really did enjoy the jokes and references (which were loving EVERYWHERE jesus christ (heh)) but i was disappointed with the third act of that game even though kennys boss fight was kind of well done I regularly forget about kotor 2.
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Jul 19, 2014 08:11
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fronz posted:I regularly forget about kotor 2. that is a probably that affects people every day you can remedy that by playing it again thank you for listening 
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Jul 19, 2014 08:16
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Dirty Job posted:I have this game but I literally can't force myself past the first 30 minutes because the combat is boring and the stealth is the worst stealth run at everything blind firing smg's instead of doing things that arent that
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Jul 19, 2014 08:51
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Falsum posted:Yeah, it was made by Obsidian wasnt that the one where the publisher screwed them out of getting paid by using some bullshit technicality
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Jul 19, 2014 11:07
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if your question begins with "isnt obsidian the one where the publisher screwed them..." the answer is yes
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Jul 19, 2014 11:14
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Borsche69 posted:errr please dont poke obvious holes in my otherwise perfect theory
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Jul 19, 2014 11:15
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I Said No posted:wasnt that the one where the publisher screwed them out of getting paid by using some bullshit technicality if i remember correctly, obsidian was promised a bonus from bethesda if new vegas got a certain metacritic score. new vegas got slightly lower than the score and thus didn't get the bonus. you might remember that the big criticism of new vegas when it came out was that it was really buggy. a lot of folks believe that bethesda intentionally did a terrible job on QA for new vegas so they wouldn't have to pay the bonus.
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Jul 19, 2014 11:51
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Gobblecoque posted:if i remember correctly, obsidian was promised a bonus from bethesda if new vegas got a certain metacritic score. new vegas got slightly lower than the score and thus didn't get the bonus. you might remember that the big criticism of new vegas when it came out was that it was really buggy. a lot of folks believe that bethesda intentionally did a terrible job on QA for new vegas so they wouldn't have to pay the bonus. todd howard did 85+
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Jul 19, 2014 11:55
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Borsche69 posted:errr
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Jul 19, 2014 12:31
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Dirty Job posted:I have this game but I literally can't force myself past the first 30 minutes because the combat is boring and the stealth is the worst stealth Go martial arts shotty and play with a controller for the most laid back gaming experience.
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Jul 19, 2014 12:32
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Gobblecoque posted:if i remember correctly, obsidian was promised a bonus from bethesda if new vegas got a certain metacritic score. new vegas got slightly lower than the score and thus didn't get the bonus. you might remember that the big criticism of new vegas when it came out was that it was really buggy. a lot of folks believe that bethesda intentionally did a terrible job on QA for new vegas so they wouldn't have to pay the bonus. In addition to it being buggy, a lot of reviewers actually thought Fallout 3 was better, when it was in fact worse in every way.
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Jul 19, 2014 12:34
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alpha protocol pro tips: -the boss fights are insanely crap so use the insanely broken pistol skill to essentially bypass them -use a controller for the hacking segments (at least i think thats the part thats broken with kb/m, cant say for sure as i played the whole game with a controller)
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Jul 19, 2014 14:15
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Scyther posted:alpha protocol pro tips: yeah, hacking is floaty with a mouse
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Jul 19, 2014 14:47
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Has Bethesda made a game that wasn't worse than some other game in literally every way?
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Jul 19, 2014 15:46
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Scyther posted:alpha protocol pro tips: beating every boss fight on my no-guns run was mostly an uphill battle but incredibly cathartic once i succeeded
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Jul 19, 2014 16:24
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alpha protocol is not fun to play please dont listen to these people
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Jul 19, 2014 17:19
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every time someone says alfa protocal is fun my rear end in a top hat itches
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Jul 19, 2014 17:35
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Jackie D posted:alpha protocol is not fun to play please dont listen to these people I disagree.
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Jul 19, 2014 17:35
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They should have called it Alpha PrOwntocol, because it owns
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Jul 19, 2014 19:10
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Scyther posted:alpha protocol pro tips: Still better than the ones in Deus Ex: HR were at launch.
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Jul 19, 2014 19:35
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Scyther posted:alpha protocol pro tips: Every minigame is doable with a kb+m, but hacking and lockpicking feel bad because mouse movement acts like a thumbstick. Also, if you're about to run out of time on the hacking minigame, manually canceling the minigame won't trigger the alarm except in one instance (I forget which one though). I think that's also the case for most electronic bypass minigames. I don't remember if that's the case for lockpicking though.
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Jul 19, 2014 19:51
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Hog Butcher posted:the community has horse vaginas covered, get on it bethesda paging slof
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Jul 20, 2014 00:19
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Gobblecoque posted:if i remember correctly, obsidian was promised a bonus from bethesda if new vegas got a certain metacritic score. new vegas got slightly lower than the score and thus didn't get the bonus. you might remember that the big criticism of new vegas when it came out was that it was really buggy. a lot of folks believe that bethesda intentionally did a terrible job on QA for new vegas so they wouldn't have to pay the bonus. If they hadn't had to work with the PS3 whatsoever I can guarantee you that there would have been more QA work done. Obsidian coming out after new Vegas was released and talking about how much of a pain in the rear end working with the cell architecture was spot on. The engine was already creaky enough and having to gently caress with it on the way the cell processor apportions resources is really silly. This isn't to defend Bethesda; their handling of Skyrim on the PS3 was shameful. I've worked a tiny bit with attempting to emulate the PS3 and gently caress that noise much less trying to adapt a stupidly broken engine to it with 18 months total dev time for all platforms. Bethesda really screwed Obsidian on that.
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Jul 20, 2014 00:27
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I liked how Fallout 3 was an almost-decent looking game and then they applied a lovely green filter to everything for no reason actually no that was one of the worst things in a kind of bad game
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Jul 20, 2014 00:40
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The extreme reactions of places like NMA to Fallout 3 were way more pathetic and funny than Fallout 3 was or ever will be.
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Jul 20, 2014 00:41
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Widestancer posted:The extreme reactions of places like NMA to Fallout 3 were way more pathetic and funny than Fallout 3 was or ever will be. Just checked, and there are still people posting there in 2014 that refuse to admit that FO3/NV exist
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Jul 20, 2014 02:53
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Widestancer posted:If they hadn't had to work with the PS3 whatsoever I can guarantee you that there would have been more QA work done. Obsidian coming out after new Vegas was released and talking about how much of a pain in the rear end working with the cell architecture was spot on. The engine was already creaky enough and having to gently caress with it on the way the cell processor apportions resources is really silly. I genuinely have no idea how Crytek managed to port Crysis 1 over to the 360/ps3 with the limitations on hardware, like, drat. At the same time they were updating CryEngine 2 to support PS3 and 360 natively, so I imagine that entire situation was hell
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Vhadka posted:Just checked, and there are still people posting there in 2014 that refuse to admit that FO3/NV exist is there a "best of" for NMA or NMA.txt for years i've been hearing about how godawful those people are; they're held in the same regard as furries and bronies it seems and i guess i'm ready to see just how bad they really are
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Jul 20, 2014 06:04
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Doubt it, they are kind of boringly pathetic most of the time. Could probably get some good quotes if you dig back to the Fallout 3 launch, but for the most part it's just another group of pathetic nerds who refuse to accept that any game post-y2k is good.
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Jul 20, 2014 07:21
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Gobblecoque posted:if i remember correctly, obsidian was promised a bonus from bethesda if new vegas got a certain metacritic score. new vegas got slightly lower than the score and thus didn't get the bonus. you might remember that the big criticism of new vegas when it came out was that it was really buggy. a lot of folks believe that bethesda intentionally did a terrible job on QA for new vegas so they wouldn't have to pay the bonus. Isn't it more likely that they did the same lovely quality QA that Bethesda always does, and it only screwed Obsidian because they aren't a big name publisher that holds games "journalists" by the balls?
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How does Bethesda even make money anymore? What are they actually good at? They can't make a stable game engine They can't script NPCs or quests or basically anything reliably They are awful at writing in-game dialogue They suck at telling a decent story, not to mention integrating it into an open-world setting without it feeling forced Horse Armor They can't even make that great a setting anymore. Skyrim was okay but Oblivion and Fallout 3 were just generic and empty. They really suck at designing fun RPG systems which don't punish leveling up They should fire everyone and then just give the rights to TES and Fallout to Obsidian.
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