Underwater Dreams: Undoc Students Beat MIT, Still Can't Get Jobs, College

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esto es malo: Aug 3, 2006; Don't want to end up a cartoon

In a cartoon graveyard

Powercrazy posted:

Yea the fetishism of immigrants is weird too, these aren't "noble savages," they are just normal people, dealt a lovely handy, looking for an opportunity.

Which is basically the same ancestry-wise of any person that is currently living in america outside of the small native population, but even some staunch progressives have a tough time holding back on "illegals" when I mention immigration, as if there is a tide of bloodsucking parasites and not people just wanting to slightly improve their hosed up situations.

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esto es malo: Aug 3, 2006; Don't want to end up a cartoon

In a cartoon graveyard

Ryand-Smith posted:

See, its funny. I can tell that most of the people in this thread are all not descendants of immigrants (as in, my old man received their naturalization through military service).

All this 'amnesty" garbage would effectively be a "gently caress you" to all of us who have to wait in lines, pay money, have relatives who can make sure we can afford keeping a green card person not in poverty, for people who work illegally and destroy wage structures and jobs that African Americans (I use that to separate them from say myself, a 'second/third depending on which side of the family you ask,) [Although through would work in.

Also, why do you not support drug legalization, which would help improve Mexico and other South American countries.

I'm sorry if I'm contrarian, but when you have filled out hundreds of immigration papers, visa requests, signed forms, and gone to naturalization ceremonies, you would understand that people who have worked hard, and not had the luck to simply cross a border (luck meaning they COULD, rather than it was easy, immigrating across the desert, dealing with rapists, drug lords and violence is not luck() (and I know about open borders, my homeland has an issue with genuine terrorists invading and bombing schoolhouses), is not .. fair.

But I have a unique perspective, since we managed to immigrate here, after losing a civil war (Biafra), and we managed to get to the middle class without stealing social security numbers or working under the table.

3rd generation immigrant from both sides, all the amnesty "garbage" as you put it is a bit more nuanced than you present. Also you're reading like a migration version of the awful minimum wage argument "why should people get paid 15 dollars an hour when i only make 18????"

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