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enraged_camel posted:An American friend of mine emigrated to Australia. He got his residency in two years, and full citizenship two years after that. This is in contrast to America, where the welfare system is utter poo poo and it takes anywhere from 10-20 years to become a citizen. I don't think Spain is the example you want to use for a nation of immigrants.
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enraged_camel posted:Who said anything about them being a nation of immigrants? That's not what is being discussed at all. Please read more carefully. I'm not sure why you're so huffy but you were talking about the differences between getting a visa in the US and Spain. The fact that Spain has essentially zero to a rounding error immigration before the mid nineties invalidates them for a qualitative comparison.
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vssrio23 posted:Your first point that undocumented workers are forced into poverty is correct. Your second point that they would have, if documented, went to college is a not only a non-sequitur argument but is also a strawman to draw attention away from the original claim. It's not that absurd. Sorry.
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vssrio23 posted:What is the percentage is this "very good chance"? More importantly, after going to this "top university", how do you know each one of these students will be able to mimic their success at the competition during 4 years of advanced-level courses? Are you the creation from a different years robotics competitions, jesus loving christ?
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