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Method Loser posted:I have a few friends, but I prefer a few close-knit to half-knowing a hundred people.
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For someone who is so obsessed with their own privacy, you sure do talk a lot about your private affairs to a publicly viewed forum. Citizenship, trust funds, your bisexual cuckoldry - you have made all of this available to us for no reason other than to complain about an app that probably got installed while you were clicking around on your mobile browser. Reminder that just because the site advertises that they charge monthly to people for their service, does not mean that that isn't just a cover for them to make it seem like there's a third party involved. The fact that their tech support said gently caress you should indicate that they aren't a legitimate company. It's probably some Jamaican scam artist, and they probably already harvested whatever useful data you had. You should get a new phone and go back to not posting.
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Jul 25, 2014 22:03
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Jul 25, 2014 22:53
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So uh are you sure that's what it is? Because the little eye on the status bar is a Samsung thing. If you accidentally activated Smart Stay then you'll see a little eye pop up for a little bit and then disappear. Here's a page with more info: http://www.knowyourmobile.com/samsung/19067/how-enable-smart-stay-your-samsung-galaxy-note-2 It's just very odd to me that an app that's meant to be hidden so it can spy on people would put an icon on your status bar, even if it's just for a second. That seems like a serious oversight and simply doesn't make sense. If they're so good at hiding the app they'd know to make the icon transparent so that it's not visible to the user. Seems much more likely to me that it's Smart Stay.
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Sorry for the double post, wanna make sure no one misses this if they already read the previous one. Smart stay looks like this:  I'm 99% sure that app developers cannot place icons next to the clock, if this had been a third party app the icon would have shown up on the left side. If this is what you saw then it's just Smart Stay and no one is spying on you. I've had my share of Samsung phones and your description of the icon and its placement sounded very familiar to me.
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This troll was pretty good, but no real bites and it became obvious by the end of the first page. 7/10.
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the kawaiiest posted:So uh are you sure that's what it is? Because the little eye on the status bar is a Samsung thing. If you accidentally activated Smart Stay then you'll see a little eye pop up for a little bit and then disappear. Here's a page with more info: http://www.knowyourmobile.com/samsung/19067/how-enable-smart-stay-your-samsung-galaxy-note-2 That's one of the best parts, this whole thing was kicked off by a built in feature of the phone.
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Xenthalon posted:Why would you completely abandon the phone? Doesn't reset to factory settings work? Or completely wiping and reapplying a vendor rom? I wouldn't necessarily assume that a factory reset would work unless one can safely rule out that the ROM has not been, itself, compromised by this software. Possessing little knowledge of the specifics of Android internals at this time, I'm not willing to make that assumption. Rather I am betting that the package in question will probably attempt to reinstall itself or invoke some other unrecognized recovery method. There were a few telling signs that something pecuilar was afoot with the phone, independent of the strange noise, the eyeball icon, and the creepy OS process named "I See You" (or whatever the Hell it said) that appeared briefly when the phone was flipping out and making a big mess. ML saw that in the "OS Monitor" app, not I, so I cannot verify that this actually happened. Still, I'm inclined to believe it, especially given the outward demeanor of the software and its web site. It would make at least some sense for an App such as AndroSpy, assuming (perhaps spuriously) that it functions as it claims, to have some sort of feature to scare the piss out of a child/spouse/stalkee if hypothetical stalker happened to read an MMS or conversation transcription it doesn't like, depending on the plan our hypothetical, unidentified mystery antagonist signed up for with AndroSpy. I'd hardly be surprised if a top-tier AndroSpy customer has access to more malicious features that would not be openly advertised on the company's stupendously dubious-yet-innocuous website. Independent of ML and any prevailing opinions about him, these AndroSpy guys have all the appearance of a clandestine front organization, par-excellence. If it's so goddamn innocent then why I ain't it on the stinking Google Play Store? Having witnessed this event in-situ, I'll state that while it certainly was strange, it sure as poo poo did happen. After what ML described, we took a few basic steps, perhaps detrimental, but mostly out of interest in the preservation of data: - Attempted download app, "SpyWarn". Attempt was subsequently blocked by message from Google Play Store indicating error charging credit card for app. - Archived photo folders from sdcard0 and external SD in a smattering of .zips relocated to local storage on a different host. - Battery removed. - SIM & SD left in phone slots. - ran `whois` on androspy.org - examined that domain and its `whois`-listed sub-domains for signs of any javascript files or static data that might reveal the identities of the parties responsible for this piece of malware. Didn't find much of interest, but there also just wasn't much of interest to be seen. - Shored up some sort of Androspy page on GITHub, but haven't had a chance to examine it or even find the link because of ol' Manic Loser over there and this stupid Macbook's penchant for blasting virtual memory into the stratosphere and paralyzing my OS X. ---- Alas, where to from here? I had a few ideas of varying quality: quote:"A Rather Poor Idea" Never done that before. Might screw it up. Rooting might mess up the configuration for legal purposes. Still, that strikes me as one of the better methods for figuring out where this things and its files are living at on the telephone. Then again, the presumed Androspy installation could just as well sneak its way off the phone if the thing is activated and sufficiently sophisticated. I'm not inclined to underestimate it. quote:"Put the Shark On It (or Another Ill-conceived Plan By My Reckoning)" Even then, I wouldn't even know what sort of packets to look for, or I might end up watching the wrong interface, and this Crackbook Air I'm typing this stupid sentence on ain't got the DIMMs for much Shark action anyway. Overall, the approach seems too risky, it might try to hit a cell tower even without the SIM card, and I don't believe that The Shark would be able to sniff cell tower signals without a USB-powered pig's nose or something (guess that'd be a device for finding truffles, but my point stands). Also I suspect there's probably a felony somewhere in sniffing cell tower connections or at least some contractual clause that the phone company might poo poo a brick about if they caught someone sharking their precious wavelengths. quote:"Connect it to a Linux Machine (aka Install Linux, Problems Abound)" This approach sounds like it'll take some work, but that's how it goes. I'd probably have to put the battery back in, but without a lead wrapping I have no idea what sort of signals it might send out (verifiable?). Ideally none, but I'm not about to take action out of ignorance on this one. ML been doin' plenty o' that on his own. I'm not well-learned in the methods of mounting Android filesystems on any distro or OS of any sort. Anyone happen to know the attendant dpkg names I'd need to feed to apt-get to read an Android device's internals? Any decent thread link on the subject would be appreciated if anyone happens to know of a veritably good one. Barring that I suppose I could go try to track down some guide to phone forensics and do as recommended therein. - Make image archive of SD card. Easy to do! Already have what I need to make that happen. - Image the SIM card, which I'd certainly do if I had a SIM card reader laying around. As it stands, I haven't the equipment. Guess I gotta shore this up. Then again, as I consider it, ML already cut his SIM card to fit a new phone so I'll be goddamned if I'm likely to be able to fit it into a reader of any sort. Anyway, since he popped it into a new phone it's hosed anyway, the internal data has probably altered from what it was during the event we witnessed, thereby rendering any cloning efforts on that SIM effectively pointless, at least from the perspective of preserving the state of the phone as it was when the event occurred. Maybe I'll just check my own SIM cards. Probably gonna have to find some obnoxious byte-area chart to understand the data, as I'd guess most of it is of a binary rather than UTF-8 character. Guess I could play with the raw data in a hex editor; easy enough. - Make an archive with same of internal storage, assuming another host can mount it as a root-privileged filesystem. - After that I guess I could just mount the images on a /dev/loop* device file and sift through the image contents, read-only, and hopefully be able to use the Admin privileges of my host distro to snoop around in the folders that unrooted Android wouldn't let me poke around in. If there's any dirt to be had, it would be in the root-only areas for sure. quote:"If Ain't None of That Crap Done Worked Right" That failing? I'm out of ideas for how to scan the thing. quote:What else? As for the culprit? I have three suspects and I shall name none of them. Haven't got enough evidence to point any fingers yet. However, I will definitely rule out his fianceé entirely. She has not had physical access to the phone. It's simply the physical reality of the matter. As for the three remaining suspects? I'm keeping these hypotheses to myself until I have substantive evidence to support or discount them. Barring that though, a Javascript driveby would hardly surprise me. As for how to find where it dumped its poo poo, I guess I'd need to look for the storage folders for each browser, assuming the thing didn't clean up after itself. Are those folders .dirs in the home directory of the phone? Based on `whois` data, AndroSpy's DNS info offers a bunch of bullshit phone numbers and addresses, as one can usually expect of any good ICANN registration, but if anything from that data is to be believed, then there is evidence to support that AndroSpy has corporate presence in both the USA and Great Britain, at least if the addresses and phone number formats listed by `whois` are to be believed. Which mobile browsers support JavaScript blocking plugins ala NoScript? At any rate, I'm skeptical but cautious. I should probably proceed with trying to gather the parts to clone and examine all the available and (in(?))visible filesystems on the device and its cards. Hopefully ol' `gparted` won't fail me or else I'm gonna be stuck in front of a terminal and a browser full of search engine tabs until I can shore up some data on where to go looking for this program if it's even still on the phone or ever was in the first place. Does Android have something equivalent to the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy Standard? Too bad some manic motherfuckers like to bust in on me 10 minutes before my alarm go off in the morning and gently caress my day up so bad I can't get around to building the computer necessary to do the best plan on my list. Thanks for that, Loser! S'why I ain't even been able to post this goddamn reply until just now. Cripes! Goddamn, gently caress this, I'm just gonna go grab the computer I need and finish building it, then get a stupid SIM card reader and some adapters. Mr. Business fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Jul 26, 2014 |
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This thread really made my morning and evening commutes thank you crazy people and or trolls, and Panama.
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Not an Anthem posted:This thread really made my morning and evening commutes thank you crazy people and or trolls, and Panama. Thought it was pretty goddamn stupid, myself. The way this thread devolved, that is, not the bullshit you're talking about. I mean, I'm from Alabama and I'm pretty drat dumb, but some of the replies in this thread are worse than useless. Mr. Business fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Jul 26, 2014 |
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Jul 26, 2014 03:37
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Are you sure this couldn't have been the fault of one of the folks you double teamed? It seems like folks willing to be double teamed might have less scruples about this sort of malicious hacking thing.
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Jul 26, 2014 04:27
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atomicthumbs posted:Are you sure this couldn't have been the fault of one of the folks you double teamed? It seems like folks willing to be double teamed might have less scruples about this sort of malicious hacking thing. You're an idiot, I wouldn't have posted it if it was as simple. You idiots are sure focusing on my personal life, instead of the tech aspect, and this thread proves that you people couldn't see or much less diagnose a serious loving issue if your life depended on it. Keep it up, 17 year olds with '14 regdates. Anything personal I've aid here was to farther understanding of the situation, but I see you people are loving worthless, so I'll go talk to my real lawyers and hire people who actually know something to do the diags. So, thanks for the help, you unwashed masses.
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Jul 26, 2014 04:43
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atomicthumbs posted:Are you sure this couldn't have been the fault of one of the folks you double teamed? It seems like folks willing to be double teamed might have less scruples about this sort of malicious hacking thing. Go back to your goddamn porn sites you pervert! This is a goddamn hardware forum.
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Desk Lamp posted:That's one of the best parts, this whole thing was kicked off by a built in feature of the phone. Every eyeball icon, regardless of how they look, are the am I rite guyz? sorry, not the same icon know how I know? I had that poo poo disabled I guess that Samsung's process is named "I'm Watching You," too, right? So in short, continue to be worthless; I'm peacing. You people clearly have no idea about poo poo and I'll leave it to professionals. Method Loser fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Jul 26, 2014 |
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Jul 26, 2014 04:55
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Method Loser posted:I'm butt hurt and now realize I may have been over reacting. I'm going to take my ball and go home. Screw you guys. Pretty much this. Good luck suing the boogie man. Because you'll never have a paper trail long enough to actually make a case.
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EbolaIvory posted:Pretty much this. I take it back, this is my last post, just for you: There are logs miles long on this, and since androspy collects monthly fees, a subpoena would get me the name of the perpetrator, and that's how you start a lawsuit. Idiot. I'm not overreacting at all, just hearkening for the days when there were for real knowledgable people in the tech corner of this site. gently caress no anymore,, carry on with your circlejerk. I'll go back to reading AI, where the posters have knowledge about the subject they're posting about. Method Loser fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Jul 26, 2014 |
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Jul 26, 2014 05:08
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Method Loser posted:I take it back, this is my last post, just for you: You're assuming that even if you had this app installed, and they "PAID" for it, that its actually someone paying for ongoing service. It sounds more like you installed some APK you shouldnt have. It had this bundled, and nobody ever actually signed up for it. Its a lingering app that you cant get rid of because you chose to install something. Or more than likely, its the samsung thing thats built in and you're just an idiot.
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Method Loser posted:just hearkening for the days when there were for real knowledgable people in the tech corner of this site Presumably this is the "CS degree assburgers buddy"
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Jul 26, 2014 05:15
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Method Loser posted:sorry, not the same icon know how I know? I had that poo poo disabled I like how you lashed out at the one person in this thread that tried to give you a real answer. lol, real champ you are.
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Jul 26, 2014 05:16
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:None of that information was necessary I know I keep saying last post, so TOXX me on this one, but all that was to stave off the inevitable 'ITS UR BOSS/BOYFRIEND/FIANCEE/WHATEVER' So yes, actually, it was necessary to tell the whole story. gently caress it though, it was some guy who wa banging my fiancee did it when I went to take a dump, right? Wait no, there's nothing even on it, I'M WATCHING YOU processes are on every Samsung phone.
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Jul 26, 2014 05:20
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Method Loser posted:Every eyeball icon, regardless of how they look, are the am I rite guyz? Whatever you say buddy. Everybody knows the very first thing you do when designing spyware is create a conspicuous icon to let the victim know they are in fact being spied upon.
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Jul 26, 2014 05:20
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Method Loser posted:I'M WATCHING YOU processes are on every Samsung phone. THE NSA IS WATCHING ME THROUGH MY SAMSUNG OH GOD THE FLEAS ARE EATING MY SKIN I CAN SMELL THE MOONLIGHT NOW
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Presumably this is the "CS degree assburgers buddy" I just live here. But goddamn people, this thread stinks something fierce, and it sure as poo poo ain't just ML's feet. Whatever the case, I'll go add some nice big BOLD poo poo to highlight the pertinent questions to fix your little "tl;dr" problem, "Sir." Mr. Business fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Jul 26, 2014 |
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Method Loser posted:I know I keep saying last post, so TOXX me on this one, but all that was to stave off the inevitable 'ITS UR BOSS/BOYFRIEND/FIANCEE/WHATEVER' So yes, actually, it was necessary to tell the whole story. gently caress it though, it was some guy who wa banging my fiancee did it when I went to take a dump, right? Wait no, there's nothing even on it, I'M WATCHING YOU processes are on every Samsung phone. Also as a fellow Galaxy Note 2 user, allow me to share with you a really great phone home screen wallpaper that I just started using:  e: Crap, I forgot to upload the actual wallpaper, gimme a sec. e2: Here you go 
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Method Loser posted:Every eyeball icon, regardless of how they look, are the am I rite guyz? Third party developers cannot put icons in the spot that you're claiming the icon showed up in. It's not possible. You were looking at the Smart Stay icon, or some other Samsung icon. No spyware rootkit whatever the gently caress would have a process called "I'm Watching You". That is beyond retarded, and it's a level of incompetence that even the shittiest Android developer would not be able to match. You're either making poo poo up or you're actually as dumb as you sound and you downloaded some lovely pirated apk somewhere that installed malware on your phone. It doesn't sound to me like you're either important or interesting enough for anyone to want to spy on you, so if you're either a troll or an idiot.
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the kawaiiest posted:Third party developers cannot put icons in the spot that you're claiming the icon showed up in. It's not possible. You were looking at the Smart Stay icon, or some other Samsung icon. Or hes a giant liar running root with some hacked up rom with bullshit installed. I'm going with this list of things 1) Idiot who isnt listening 2) Idiot who didnt read his phones manual when he saw a weird icon 3) Thinks hes important, because hes a trust fund baby 4) Has no concept of the real world.
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Okay, people are still falling for this. I upgrade you to 8/10, and a hearty congratulations for the sheer number of words that guy typed out earlier.
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Mrit posted:Okay, people are still falling for this. I upgrade you to 8/10, and a hearty congratulations for the sheer number of words that guy typed out earlier. The guy who typed the book is apparently his RL friend or some poo poo. This dude, really thinks what he posted. I honestly don't think its a troll. Which is sad.
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EbolaIvory posted:Or hes a giant liar running root with some hacked up rom with bullshit installed. I'm holding out hope that he's just trolling because I don't want to believe that this person exists.
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the kawaiiest posted:Third party developers cannot put icons in the spot that you're claiming the icon showed up in. It's not possible. You were looking at the Smart Stay icon, or some other Samsung icon. No, you are beyond retarded in the sense that you apparently suffer from reading comprehension issues, nevermind your inability to read between lines--a skill apparently andm voluntarily deprecated in this cesspool--for missing the obvious business case for having a feature on one's spyware app, a "hubris-button" if you will, to scare the piss out of the person you happen to be stalking. Calling the process something menacing makes tremendous sense, given that it is marketed as being for stalking one's child or spouse. Might wanna scare 'em, right? What a piece of poo poo software. This is exactly the sort of poo poo that makes Android godawful, not that any of you iOS Job-ite motherfuckers have any valid points to make in your vertically integrated wisterian computing ecoshitstem. Plenty of people would probably care to gently caress with ML. This unhelpful poo poo thread and your goddamn anime-avatar rear end are the proof in the pudding.
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EbolaIvory posted:The guy who typed the book is apparently his RL friend or some poo poo. "The book?" Is SA now limited to twitter-length, contentless posts? I missed that development, but that's a whole shitload sadder than whatever your sorry rear end is mourning. 1691 words is a "book?" Have you ever read anything more verbose than an apartment finder guide from the rack by the checkout at the grocery store? Sweet Jesus! Mr. Business fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Jul 26, 2014 |
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Mrit posted:Okay, people are still falling for this. I upgrade you to 8/10, and a hearty congratulations for the sheer number of words that guy typed out earlier. Go poo poo in a jar, ferment it in the sun for 6 days, and then huff your own loving jenkem.
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Mr. Business posted:No, you are beyond retarded in the sense that you apparently suffer from reading comprehension issues, nevermind your inability to read between lines--a skill apparently andm voluntarily deprecated in this cesspool--for missing the obvious business case for having a feature on one's spyware app, a "hubris-button" if you will, to scare the piss out of the person you happen to be stalking. Calling the process something menacing makes tremendous sense, given that it is marketed as being for stalking one's child or spouse. Might wanna scare 'em, right? holy poo poo I want a "hubris-button" now.
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Variable_H posted:THE NSA IS WATCHING ME THROUGH MY SAMSUNG OH GOD THE FLEAS ARE EATING MY SKIN I CAN SMELL THE MOONLIGHT NOW Well, what does it smell like, Tex? Your upper-lip? Bet that's a foul one.
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Mr. Business posted:"The book?" Is SA now limited to twitter-length, contentless posts? I missed that development, but that's a whole shitload sadder than whatever your sorry rear end is mourning. Yeah, A book with 1/2 baked ideas. You really are an idiot sir. Also, you really have no idea how android works. If Mr fucky gently caress guy, turned on the "install unknown sources" and installed something. its on him. If he didnt. It would have failed. You can babble about IOS and apple and everything else but its obvious you dont know poo poo about poo poo.
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Mr. Business posted:No, you are beyond retarded in the sense that you apparently suffer from reading comprehension issues, nevermind your inability to read between lines--a skill apparently andm voluntarily deprecated in this cesspool--for missing the obvious business case for having a feature on one's spyware app, a "hubris-button" if you will, to scare the piss out of the person you happen to be stalking. Calling the process something menacing makes tremendous sense, given that it is marketed as being for stalking one's child or spouse. Might wanna scare 'em, right? Look how dumb you are.
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EbolaIvory posted:Yeah, A book with 1/2 baked ideas. You really are an idiot sir. Yep, I'm definitely an idiot and never worked for one day in my life as a software engineer. You are a shrewd judge of something akin to character but moreso just profoundly churlish and of no use to this thread whatsoever.
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