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Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001
Today, on my Note 2, I noticed a noise, and a half-second eyeball icon next to the time, that then vanished. Obviously, this is not right. I dig, and it appears someone has surreptitiously installed this Androspy (androspy.org) on my phone. Here's the deal, though, they claim it's for parents and such. Well, I'm an unemployed (not my boss, then, since I live off a trust,) 28 year old, and no one has access to my phone but I. This seems quite odd, since they say you need physical access. I emailed their tech support, and I know no one likes reading emails, but look at these people's gall, first response contains a gently caress YOU, and got this in reply:

quote:

support@androspy.org <support@androspy.org>
1:15 PM (1 hour ago)

to me

These are not the kindest words to write a complain about something. But:
1. That you are unemployed is just your private problem
2. If you find the app on your phone it means that someone installed it there so first think about it who it was
3. The app is totally legal so you can address your letters to anyone who you want
4. Read the terms and conditions section
And finally 5. gently caress YOU

Professionalism. So, I write them back, telling them I will be speaking to a lawyer and get:

quote:

support@androspy.org
2:23 PM (16 minutes ago)

to me

Than the responsibility is on your boss.

Disclaimer
We clearly notify that it is the responsibility of client to fully read and understand the terms and conditions attached to the purchase of Androspy. We will not be liable if after purchase Androspy is not compatible with the features of your device or does not fulfill your requirements.
We will not be liable to pay you any amount back in case of your inability to claim refund within the specified period.
There are no warranties attached to Androspy. We don’t claim our Androspy to be 100 percent error-free. We stand indemnified in case of any damage caused to your device or any loss of data due to use of Androspy.
Law structure of your country may not allow using Androspy for monitoring anyone’s device without prior written concern of that person. It is sole responsibility of the client to comply with the legal requirements of his/her country regarding use of Androspy and obtain written consents of parties being monitored.
Androspy is only to help parents monitor their minor children but with prior knowledge of Androspy being installed on their device.
Androspy helps employers monitor performance and activities of their employees but no such information collected should be misused. We assume that you acknowledge the fact that Androspy will not be used for espionage or stalking any employee or competitor.
Androspy should only be used for legal and legitimate purpose. In case of any misuse we will not be liable and will be bound to provide any kind of help and information to the legal authorities.


I'm going to speak to my lawyer about it, since they collect monthly fees from ~whomever~ has basically rooted my phone, but what gives here? Anyone have any idea?

Obviously I yanked the battery after my CS degree assburgers buddy yanked anything that looked interesting on the phone, and am saving it as-is, so we can see more of what's up, but come on, what the gently caress? There isn't a person I can think of that would want to spy on me in this way. I work(ed) in medicine. Any clever ideas on diagnostics or, well, anything? This phone will never be used by me again, but anyone have any clue how to poke a stick at it

Method Loser fucked around with this message at 09:25 on Jul 24, 2014

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Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

EbolaIvory posted:

I'm curious as to what you actually said in the first email.

It was a web form. I was irate, but it's not like I was cursing at them.

LastInLine posted:

What are you asking here, exactly? Like what's the point of the thread or the question you need answered?

For any ideas on seeing what files I may be able to snoop to see who's behind this. I know what I'm doing, but more knowledge before I lawyer up is never bad.


Xenthalon posted:

Why would you completely abandon the phone? Doesn't reset to factory settings work? Or completely wiping and reapplying a vendor rom?

Because that phone could be called evidence. See, this androspy takes monthly payments for their service. Meaning whomever perpetuated this felony on me, was assisted by that company. I'm talking to my lawyer in the next few days, so if I wiped the phone, I'd have no evidence. I'm going to sue the poo poo out of someone if I can. Obviously the company changed their tune within 3 emails, from gently caress U [literally] to sending me their disclaimer, as if that means jackshit to me. They're afraid that they've hosed up already, which makes me happy.

And keep in mind, I'm a dual citizen, US/Panama. I'm talking to my Panamanian lawyer, too. These androspy fucks are letting someone commit a felony, in their name, on a dual citizen. If I have a chance of winning, I'll file suit in both countries.

Method Loser fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Jul 24, 2014

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

baka kaba posted:

I don't know what SpyOnMen :eyepop: is about, but if they have a bunch of admin access on your phone you probably don't want to turn it on. If they realise there's trouble it's possible they could just remote wipe your phone, so you probably want to make sure the sim card is out and it never connects to wifi, until you've done your CSI bit anyway

We've yanked the pertinent info off the phone, and took the sim and battery out. Past that, it's now evidence; no battery, in a box. I have to see my (US) lawyer anyway soon so we'll see what kind of case I have.

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

atomicthumbs posted:

Are you sure it wasn't your mom or dad? They may just be trying to look out for you if so!

I'm loving 28. My father or mother have never even touched the phone, much less use this, I have no boss to snoop me (trust fund lolz.) That and: no reason to. My father was aghast, keep in mind he's a MD, mother a Pharm-D, and me an EMT. Medicine. This intusion makes mevery mad, and I have a good-rear end, internationally working, lawyer

I don't know why, but someone's committing a huge falony wiretapping me, and the company is culpable since it goes through their servers and the felon pays monthly fee to them. I'm uing the gently caress out of SOMEONE here.

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

LastInLine posted:

The answer is that with the phone off you can snoop none of the files.

The phone was cloned onto a computer (what I meant by pertinent files--- ALL of them,) then had its' battery removed. I have access to all the files that were on it, but this AndroSpy hides pretty loving well.

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

Endless Mike posted:

I'd say maybe it's a friend playing a prank, but you seem like you probably don't have many of those.

I have a few friends, but I prefer a few close-knit to half-knowing a hundred people. None of my friends would do this, and were aghast and got paranoid about their poo poo when I told them what is up. Either way, if there's a legal way, I'm suing the unholy gently caress out of that company, and during subpoenas I will find out who the mystery man is. He gets a lawsuit too; this is felony wiretapping as far as I can see (IANAL)


LastInLine posted:

Install the app on another phone and see.

Completely hidden, there's no 'app' in the conventional nature. Honestly, I have no idea who put it there, what it looks like, nothing, since it also makes downloading diag tools error out trying to get them off the play store. Since the company charges the snoopy felon an amount per month, so they're complicit in this crime, and have all his info, which I (or the police) will get. They take wiretapping/wire fraud srs

Method Loser fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Jul 25, 2014

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

Bob A Feet posted:

Did you buy the phone new or used?

New, ~18 months ago maybe? Soon before the Note 3 came out

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

LastInLine posted:

There is an app, you just don't know how to find it.

Hence the 'conventional nature' bit. Really, if it ha this, it could have other rookit like things on it too. Besides, like I aid, this is evidence; talking to my lawyer wasn't a bluff. I'm jut buying a new phone.

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

Not an Anthem posted:

You seem slightly insane. I would guess any significant other ever if parents are out. This thread is awesome.

Significant other lives states away and hasn't even touched the phone since I bought it. Also, she'd never do it, we allow each other to gently caress other people if wanted (lol open relationship,) even though neither of us actually does gently caress other people. We're engaged, she's not with me because she's having ti care for her dying grandfather,
I may be slightly insane, but thsi IS felony wiretapping.


Anyone have any theories as to what or who may have done this> I can guarantee it wasn't anyone in my family, my fiancee, or my nonexistent boss

Method Loser fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Jul 25, 2014

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

0zxy posted:

wants to sue the gently caress out of everyone involved.

loving right; I don't take invasions of my privacy lightly. Like I said, I have to see my lawyer for some misdemeanor bullshit anyway later this week, he'll love this. So will my Panamanian attorney, since I'm a dual citizen, I can come at it from that angle, too.

And, yes, genius, I installed a Androspy, on my own phone. And pay the monthly fee. Idiot.

Method Loser fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Jul 25, 2014

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

Jose Oquendo posted:

What's the combined weight of your girlfriend and you?

Less than 300lbs.


Endless Mike posted:

I bet some lovely game you pirated instead of paying $1 for included malware in the package. But don't worry, you probably just have months of data sent to Chinese hackers.

I don't download games.


Earthy Ape Unit posted:

Whoa I was sent here by a thread I read but am not allowed to post in (long story, but it involves something similar to this situation you're in (both cucking and spyware)) and having been through this I can give you this advice:

1. immediately confront your girlfriend about her other partners and get a full list
2. cross check that list against all the popular cucking websites online for similar stories, these guys play this game all the time
3. alert your trustee immediately and give him full details of your cucking experiences and the resulting security breach, the trustee needs to be able to lock this poo poo down
4. check all your other electronic devises, this isn't an isolated incident (land phones too)

I can guarantee this is a result of your participation in the cucking community. It's loving sad that someone else's jealousy and lack of maturity can lead to this type of situation where you're the one who has to deal with the fallout, but stay strong cuck-bro.

What? Cucking community? I don't even know if that's a thing. We're not swingers, for gently caress's sake, and don't belong to any group related to anything like that. We're just both bi and I can't supply her a pussy, nor her supply me a cock. After 5 years, neither of ua has ever felt the urge to gently caress anyone other than eachother, alone. We have doubleteamed people, but that was years ago., we just 9 That being aid, there is no physical way she could be behind this. Sorry, armchair detectives, you'll have to believe me. Besides, she's an artist and borderline computer luddite.

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corn in the fridge posted:

Lol wtf is your Panamanian lawyer gonna do? You live in the US right? You do realise that the US does not officially recognise dual nationality and your rights as a Panamanian citizen mean exactly gently caress all in the US.

Being unclear personally on the laws, as I doubt you know any more than me, we'll see. You never know what foreign countries laws might exist, and yes, you can indeed sue US entities as a citizen of another country, dude.

RZA Encryption posted:



Serious Question:

Have you ever rooted your phone OR installed any app through any means besides the google play store?

No.

Method Loser fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Jul 25, 2014

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

corn in the fridge posted:

You don't understand. The laws of Panama are not applicable to you in the US because you are a US citizen. You cannot sue US entities as a Panamanian citizen because you are a US citizen. You may not enter the US as a Panamanian citizen, you cannot leave the US as a Panamanian citizen. As far as the US is concerned, because you are a US citizen, you are only a US citizen.


This phone was used while I, a Panamamian citizen, was on Panamanian soil. I can use the Panamanian court system, if there's a case to be had. See: I'm going to talk to my lawyers


Earthy Ape Unit posted:

Oh I get it, you even deny yourself the outward appearance of taking part in the community, that's pretty hot bro.

Anyway I'm 100% serious about disclosing all of this to your trustee, he'll be in a world of poo poo if he doesn't have all the facts.


I seriously don't know what you're talking about, community of wife-fuckers? No, not a part of any freaky poo poo like that, sorry to ruin your imagination.


quote:

c'mon, be honest.


Uh, I am being. I have no problem paying $5 for a useful app, and none of the other rooting benefits appeal to me.
From now on, I'm gonna find and use some poo poo phone, and then just get a tablet for the rest. I'm being obviously targeted for something, and I don't like that

Method Loser fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Jul 25, 2014

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

atomicthumbs posted:

Are you sure this couldn't have been the fault of one of the folks you double teamed? It seems like folks willing to be double teamed might have less scruples about this sort of malicious hacking thing.

You're an idiot, I wouldn't have posted it if it was as simple. You idiots are sure focusing on my personal life, instead of the tech aspect, and this thread proves that you people couldn't see or much less diagnose a serious loving issue if your life depended on it. Keep it up, 17 year olds with '14 regdates. Anything personal I've aid here was to farther understanding of the situation, but I see you people are loving worthless, so I'll go talk to my real lawyers and hire people who actually know something to do the diags. So, thanks for the help, you unwashed masses.

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

Desk Lamp posted:

That's one of the best parts, this whole thing was kicked off by a built in feature of the phone.

Every eyeball icon, regardless of how they look, are the am I rite guyz?

sorry, not the same icon know how I know? I had that poo poo disabled
I guess that Samsung's process is named "I'm Watching You," too, right?

So in short, continue to be worthless; I'm peacing. You people clearly have no idea about poo poo and I'll leave it to professionals.

Method Loser fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Jul 26, 2014

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

EbolaIvory posted:

Pretty much this.

Good luck suing the boogie man. Because you'll never have a paper trail long enough to actually make a case.

I take it back, this is my last post, just for you:

There are logs miles long on this, and since androspy collects monthly fees, a subpoena would get me the name of the perpetrator, and that's how you start a lawsuit. Idiot. I'm not overreacting at all, just hearkening for the days when there were for real knowledgable people in the tech corner of this site. gently caress no anymore,, carry on with your circlejerk. I'll go back to reading AI, where the posters have knowledge about the subject they're posting about.

Method Loser fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Jul 26, 2014

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

None of that information was necessary

I know I keep saying last post, so TOXX me on this one, but all that was to stave off the inevitable 'ITS UR BOSS/BOYFRIEND/FIANCEE/WHATEVER' So yes, actually, it was necessary to tell the whole story. gently caress it though, it was some guy who wa banging my fiancee did it when I went to take a dump, right? Wait no, there's nothing even on it, I'M WATCHING YOU processes are on every Samsung phone.

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001
gently caress it, toxx if you want, I can afford 10 bucks, I feel I need to get reinvolved.

We'd maybe release some files if either of us thought any of you had an iota of intelligence as to what to do. Mr.B has a degree and worked for a company you've heard of almost every day in CS. I promise he has more bona-fides than you help desk dorks could imagine.

Yes, there are people that would target me. Not a schizophrenic, just know the way the world is.

Carry on thinking it's a troll, those guys are the dumbest of your pile of idiot people.

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

Variable_H posted:

Mr. Business, why are you so angry? Please, tell us what's really going on.

Because you people are legitimately useless and obstructionist, and stupid to boot. No better than channers. At least fucks like yall haven't ruined AI yet.

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

Yes, because, as a mod on SOMETHINGAWFUL you have no issues, ever. You are the uber-man, right? Shut the gently caress up you human being.

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

EbolaIvory posted:

Or maybe we have a better working knowledge of things at hand and need more information before forming an opinion that the OP is being super stalked by magical ferries.

EDIT: Gonna quit posting on this. Its obvious you and the OP are loving retards.


Because you started civilly asking for details and weren't cocksuckers to begin with, right? gently caress all y'all. I'm going back to AI and my lawyers.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3653387&pagenumber=1&perpage=40#post432708702

There you go, you people are so retarded you made him see this site isn't useful for poo poo-all anymore. It's been overrun by you, the krews, and all the other dumbass insular poo poo you faggots do.

Method Loser fucked around with this message at 08:08 on Jul 26, 2014

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

anakha posted:

If all of this alleged lawyering up actually goes anywhere, color me shocked as all hell.

I'll let you all know jut how wrong you were in a few years when this finally goes through the court system. Look forward to it. Till then, you can collectively suck my dicks, especially tat pathetic mod there, that dude knows less than the rest of you, and that's sad.

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

Mrit posted:

"Yes your honor, the plaintiff made an eye appear on my phone, using magic, possibly a form of voodoo. I then emailed them and they said the f-word. I would like a quadrillion dollars."

Congrats, you are retarded not only in technology, but the legal system too! Go for a high score, be incompetent at everything!

MODS: Please gas this thread; it serves no purpose now other than for people with no idea what they're talking about circlejerking.

Method Loser fucked around with this message at 08:21 on Jul 26, 2014

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001
^^^^Hoping to appeal to an admin or mod with an iota of sense; this one obviously has not one.

The phone is not rooted. Its not shoved up my rear end 24/7, it' a possibility someone could have surreptitiously gotten it from me for the 60 seconds it take to install such a thing. This is the only way this could have been installed from my POV. The icon did NOT look like the Samsung eye. Sorry, that's not it.

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001
Doublepot

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

Mrit posted:

I'm the hacker OP! Here is a picture of your phone, which I have hacxed(the 'x' is because I am a hacker).

I was the one who put the eye there, certainly not Samsung. Case closed, the OP is now rich and will foreclose on all our houses while lighting a cigar with a $100 bill.

Again, wrong icon. So sorry. And you guys just don't get it, I'm already wealthy which, you know, makes you a target. I don't need to win a lawsuit to live comfortably until I'm 150.

Method Loser fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Jul 26, 2014

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

the kawaiiest posted:

Listen, I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here even though I'm probably going to end up getting probated for getting my rear end trolled.

It wouldn't take 60 seconds to install and set up something like AndroSpy. The person would have to change your phone settings to allow third party apps, download the apk, run it, log in with their account and set up what they want monitored. So if this is true, someone had to be alone with your phone for a few minutes. Maybe while you were sleeping or something.

It's still extremely odd that the icon showed up next to the clock though. This is not possible for third part apps.

This is probably closest to the truth, and the only way I'm going to know who is filing lawsuit and subpoenaing records to see who pays AndroSpy.


EbolaIvory posted:

*Unless the app got root*
Which means the OP lied about root.

Oh trust fund babies.

My. Phone. Was. Not. Rooted. By. Me. I. Do. Not. Install. Unsigned. Apps. I. Buy. All. My. Apps. From. The. Google. Play. Store. FFS

And the trust fund baby thing, I mention a trust fund just to ward off the 'YOUR BOSS DID IT!."s. I've worked in fast food kitchens for minimum wage, I've worked in gas stations. I worked at the Memphis Zoo doing all their landscaping. I've put my dues in. More than most of you, I'd wager, ivory tower elitist fucks, or alternatity, the ergonomic-chair-at-the-help-desk fillers. So to all those pulling those cards: suck my cock.

People. what the gently caress reason would I have to lie about any of this, any lie would gently caress up the (theoretical) help I asked for. The fact I DON'T have root is making getting to juicy files harder. The entirety of this forum has been hostile, and I'm honestly wondering why. Are they afraid things like this are possible and want to do the ostrich thing? What?
Either way the whole phone isn't going to be touched by anyone but who my lawyer tells me to give it to. You guys are worthless, so Ill let professionals take care of it, so really, other than the like two guys that took this serious, you're nothing but wastes of time. Congrats, I'm sure you all aspired to this.

Method Loser fucked around with this message at 10:46 on Jul 26, 2014

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

Big Anime Fan Here posted:

You buy your apps from the google gay store kid.

I happily paid $10 for RadarScope, nothing but a real time doppler radar. It was the best real time weather app I could find. I probably have a few hundred dollars in apps.I believe in supporting devs and have no want or need to root my phone. Sorry, it wasn't rooted, not to my knowledge.

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

Big Anime Fan Here posted:

What the hell are you talking about

Me trying to convince these people that no, I don't root and run unsigned apks on this phone. I don't know why I'm bothering, it's clear the technical knowledge here is missing, just a bunch of kids who want to troll, which is fine. Like I said, I'm talking to pros later anyway, but was wondering if anyone had any clever ideas. I got a resounding NO, then poo poo flung at me.

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

Nice Reddit Account posted:

OP, I am a lawyer, please respond if you would like me to represent you and your case.

Please do not contact me via the phone in question but rather your house phone or payphone.

Thanks, but I already have really loving good lawyers.

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

TLG James posted:

Is it possible that the phone he bought wasn't new, but repackaged to look new?

Straight from an ATT store?


Thanks, but at this point I'm not touching it before I talk to my lawyers. I don't want to destroy the only evidence I have. I already bought a new phone.

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

Jose Oquendo posted:

Hey OP did you ever kick that heroin addiction?

yep

Squinty Applebottom posted:

Honestly you seem like a flight risk thanks to your dual citizenship. I bet it is your parole officer.


Sorry, don't have one.


SInce when did I post in helldump? Yes, 3 years ago I did barter a bit, since I had no reason not to. The gently caress? You think wealthy people get wealthy by spending when they don't have to? Dumb. You dudes are retards, I'm out for realsies now. Keep on with your little circlejerk.

Method Loser fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Jul 26, 2014

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

PuTTY riot posted:

What's gulfstream

I see we fly commercial.

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

Jose Oquendo posted:

Method Loser probably doesn't fly much at all since he most likely can't leave the state as a condition of his probation.

Pfft, probation officers. Never had one, but I bet they don't get paid enough to resist enough money for rubber stamping things.

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

duTrieux. posted:

The bonus of just using an iPhone is that Apple exerts a lot of control on the ecosystem, making them liable for any further violations of your privacy! Then you can sue Apple directly, as there's more of a legal basis for getting some of that sweet Beats money out of them.

already use macbook pros exclusively, iphones blow with their tiny little screens and havent-been-updated-since-1800 design. srry. samsung makes better poo poo than apple in the phone arena

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

flyboi posted:

For someone that values their privacy so much it's shocking they would champion the mobile os best known to be highly insecure and addled with privacy leaks.

Most enterprise environments won't even allow android on their network because of the issues surrounding the poors phone os

i value my privacy so much I don't even keep anything incriminating or embarrassing on my phone, anyone who does is a bona-fide moron; this intrusion is a matter of principle

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

Taciturn Tactician posted:

OP when your friend left in huff, he committed to it.

but this is so fun

Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

Mooktastical posted:

I thought it was keyboard and chair?

nah, he got some lovely ps/2 ports you see and

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Method Loser
Oct 10, 2001

Breaky posted:

Neither does anyone else.


The real tragedy here is that you are 'wealthy' yet choose to live in Birmingham, AL.

One lat thing: biotech and banking, dumbass.

peace

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