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flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

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LastInLine posted:

I hate to have to point this out, but the kawaiiest is correct, there's no way a non-system app can present an icon on the right near the time. It simply isn't a thing that can be done and I must've missed that in the OP because I would've pointed it out then. Even if you had root and installed the app as a system app (which can be done without rooting the device through recovery assuming a custom recovery is installed) it still can't put the icon on the right near the clock.

Since the OP's "expert" is anything but, I'll spell out the technical reason. It's because in order to modify that part of the statusbar you need to modify SystemUI and for that you'd also need root. Now there are a few ways to approach that problem if for some reason you wanted your surveillance app to throw a notification to alert the user that they're being spied upon but all of them would carry a lot of dependencies. The only way you could do it for every device without making a bespoke modified SystemUI for every type of device and every variant of those software versions would be via Xposed. Only now you've got the problem where you can't hide the presence of Xposed, system root, and an Xposed module to modify SystemUI on the fly.

But let's assume, as a thought exercise (since this is obviously far from reality) that there is an unauthorized surveillance app on the phone, and it has solved the "problem" of throwing a notification in the system area of the notification bar.

How did it get on there? As already established, for it to be hidden from a user with a modicum of sense it would need to be done with root. It would need to install itself to /system/app since without that a user could see and uninstall it. It would need to obfuscate the name of package much like Lookout used to (still does?) to make it difficult to detect looking through /system/app or checking for running services. Could that be done? Yes, if the person installing it had access to the device, used a root exploit to install it, then unrooted. Could it be installed remotely? Definitely not if the device was unrooted. Even if it was rooted it wouldn't work without a reboot.

So as someone who has a pretty good grasp on how Android can be altered at the system level there are simply too many things that aren't possible for this to be real:
  • The phone would have to be rooted, at least temporarily, to hide an app from the user.
  • To put the icon on the right, the phone would need to be rooted (again, at least temporarily) to make very involved changes that do nothing to aid in the app in its supposed function. Again, lots of things would have to be done just to show a notification to the user that they were being spied on with an icon on the right instead of the left which would require no work at all.
  • A developer would have to want to make a spying app that notifies the user of what it was doing. It would be less work to not tell the user, either by simply making the icon transparent if there had to be a notification or making the notification innocuous so that it didn't alarm the user.
  • Such an app would have to have to be made specifically for your device, carrier, and software version. This is not a trivial task.

One doesn't need to know much about Android to know that if the user a) can't think of anyone who'd want to spy on him, b) can't think of anyone who'd have the opportunity to install it, c) can't explain why a surveillance app would throw a notification at all, d) can't provide anything pulled from the device, including even a screenshot of the alleged notification, and e) is claiming something technically not possible then it's probably the case that the user's claims are wrong or false.

Also I looked at the Play Store page for the app in that Github--it shows a satellite shaped notification on the left and isn't for spying but marking coordinates. There's nothing surreptitious about it at all. And I told you how to easily determine where the app you claim it is would be: install it on another, clean device and look for the new files.

Still a pretty good troll though and I'm glad to have been here since the beginning.

Not only this but the system files required to be modified would have to have the phone fully unlocked, not just rooted. There's no way to modify the layout of the icons at the top without changing the XML file used for the layout of icons on the status bar which is in protected storage.

Anyways great thread op plz keep clean and buy an iPhone.

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flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

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Considering rule 34 of yospos I would say op isn't as rich as he makes himself out to be if he uses android just sayin

flyboi
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Also op if you consider your privacy so valuable I would suggest investing in a capable MDM platform for your poorphone such as airwatch to avoid future privacy problems

flyboi
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For someone that values their privacy so much it's shocking they would champion the mobile os best known to be highly insecure and addled with privacy leaks.

Most enterprise environments won't even allow android on their network because of the issues surrounding the poors phone os

flyboi
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I'm sorry Method Loser but it seems you are one of those people in my field we state "PEBKAC" - Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Computer or in this instance "PEBBAF" Problem Exists Between Brain and Function.

It's nothing to be ashamed about but if you can't manage to limit your privacy I would suggest either using a dumb phone to protect yourself from your own stupidity or perhaps as WebOS based phone. If you feel WebOS does not suit your needs I highly suggest a Palm Centro as it is a very functional device while limiting your capability of looking like an idiot.

flyboi
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Ruddha posted:

You're the principal of the school for being gay ha ha ha ha

Please don't lump this idiot in with my peoples, we have enough problems with meth addicts and HIV. Op probably could find some friends at his level at a bingo hall or nursing home though!

flyboi
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Ruddha posted:

Being gay is good, but its something you know, not something you learn. Hell, they say those that can't do it with men, teach.

No we say "Gay is only a 6 pack away"

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

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Mooktastical posted:

I thought it was keyboard and chair?

Yeah that makes more sense. Haven't used that acronym in like 10 years since most people aren't this retarded anymore.

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

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Aw the busted laptop link in the ban is archived.

DEAR RICHARD,

I DEMAND 5 LACROSS FOR THIS INJUSTICE YOU HAVE BROUGHT UPON MY FAMILY AND A POLO TO GO WITH THEM.

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flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

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How the gently caress is the screen still in-tact when a great chunk of the laptop is gone :stare:

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