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They just need to keep updating this game to make it better, and then announce The Crew Expansion Pack #1: TOKYO DRIFTUUUUU 
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I do think it's hilarious that people love TDU and TDU2, but despise The Crew. Both TDU and TDU2 had way worse handling, TDU especially. 100+ over a sharp crest and my car just sticks to the road like glue? Rock solid suspension? Cars that hit a bump and spazzed the gently caress out? TDU had that poo poo covered.
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Jan 9, 2015 23:14
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T1g4h posted:I do think it's hilarious that people love TDU and TDU2, but despise The Crew. Both TDU and TDU2 had way worse handling, TDU especially. 100+ over a sharp crest and my car just sticks to the road like glue? Rock solid suspension? Cars that hit a bump and spazzed the gently caress out? TDU had that poo poo covered. I disagree with your statement but I think for a different reason than you made it. I far preferred the physics in TDU 1 and 2. TDU games had some odd physics to them in the gravity and grip but they were consistent and acted like there was an actual physics model that just wasn't really well implemented. It was predictable, and had real world analogues for traction and the way friction behaved even if the thresholds weren't the same. The Crew just feels completely wrong. There are things the games does that has not only no basics in physics but are completely and totally wrong. For example, when a car oversteers and the rear wheels have lost traction if you counter steer and add light throttle like you should then too loving bad for you it does poo poo, but if you do the opposite of what you should and mash the brakes while counter steering your car whips around and rights itself exactly the opposite of the inertia your car has. It's like there is absolutely no actual physics model in The Crew. It's like someone who has read books about driving but never actually driven a car programmed what driving was like in their head, completely ignoring how it actually works because they have never done it.
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Jan 9, 2015 23:48
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I would argue that The Crew does have a consistent driving / physics model, just not your typical one that you'd be expecting. Is it odd and counter to what a car should do in real life? Yeah, sometimes. But it's consistent and once you figure it out, it's really not hard to drift corners and rally down dirt roads like a pro. Not only that, but to me it feels better than a lot of supposedly well done racing games (I'm looking at you, Shift 2 Unleashed.) I genuinely like the driving model, it's pretty fun to me. But, this is a debate that's been done to death at this point. Anyone else excited for the Extreme Car Pack this month? I'm hoping since it's supposedly a pack full of super fast, high end cars, they'll start adding in the missing circuit specs. I really want to put Circuit spec on my Silverado for the totally ridiculous NASCAR Truck look 
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Jan 10, 2015 00:30
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Yeah some cars are inexplicably missing a circuit spec and I don't know what the gently caress they were thinking. Lamborghini Murcielago, Perf and Circuit. Sure. Alfa Romeo 8C, Perf and Circuit. Cool. Aston Martin V8 Vantage, Perf spec, no circuit spec. Well... that's kinda dumb, but I guess it is more of a street car than like a Le Mans car or something. Maserati Gran Turismo, Perf spec, no circuit spec. Again, I guess if I had to I could see what you mean, more of a street car. But comeon. Lamborghini Aventador? Perf spec, no circuit spec. Wait, what? That doesn't even make sense  Lamborghini Miura? Perf spec. WHAT? THIS MAKES NO SENSE Pagini Huayra? Perf spec only. WHAAAAAAT THE gently caress ARE YOU DOING Ferarri? Perf only.  If ANYTHING those cars should be circuit only, with no perf spec. THAT would make sense, they're ridiculous supercars. But they're perf only (meaning half-offroad races sometimes) which is completely inappropriate. Yeah sure you can take your 350Z to the circuit track but not a loving lambo. Also the classic charger and camero have dirt specs but not raid spec, that's weak. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Jan 10, 2015 |
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Jan 10, 2015 00:54
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Miura Perf spec makes sense though. It's based off the real life Miura Jota, which was an actual proper Miura racer. And technically the Camaro RS does have a Raid spec. You use it in Ironclad Dash and at least one or two other races, you just can't purchase it yet. They've already confirmed they're going to be adding in the missing specs down the line for free though, so it's just a matter of time. The 458 does desperately need a Circuit spec though, the real life 458 GT car is amazingly good looking.
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Jan 10, 2015 01:02
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AirRaid posted:It's funny watching every keep shouting "LOL UBISOFT" when Ivory Tower is essentially not a "Ubisoft dev" at all. They're a bunch of guys who emerged from Eden Games and a bunch of non Eden dudes, essentially forming the Game Dev equivalent of the spiritual successor to Eden games, continuing their MMO racer idea from Test Drive Unlimited. They're based in France, made up of mostly french guys so partnering with Ubisoft was probably pretty convenient for them. Yes Ubi clearly had some influence in some areas, what with the AC/Far Cry-esque radio towers and such but ostensibly they are not "lol Ubisoft". Too bad it's poo poo.
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Jan 10, 2015 01:38
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Does the map actually feel big?
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Jan 10, 2015 04:35
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It does, it feels quiet big and vast and you can go off-road at pretty much any time you want. The fun I had just doing road trips mixed in with those randomly strewn challenges was that hooked me during the beta and made me buy it even though it has rather weird driving physics. Sometimes I come across something weird and I think that's some made-up game bullshit, google it... but nope, somewhere in the US there's a giant cow standing near a highway exit. And somewhere else is a giant cross to show off just how christian those guys are. As a EU goon I find it a quiet fun and entertaining way to get weird tidbits of info about the US that I'd normaly only aquire by randomly surfing wikipedia. e: light US road-trip gameplay might be a weird reason to buy a racing game, but It was certainly worth it for me.
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Jan 10, 2015 04:40
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The giant cow is hard to miss if you drive around that area. There's a few unique little easter egg sites like that. You can find a Unicorn in East Coast, and a Sasquatch up in the mountains in the north of West Coast. There's also a UFO wreck somewhere apparently but I haven't come across that yet. Probably near Roswell. In Other news, the Miura is one of the best Perf cars I've found which is awesome because the Miura is awesome.  Also I get that the four starter cars can have every spec, from a gameplay perspective so not to "lock out" specs until you can afford an expensive car that has the right spec, that's fine (Not that money is hugely a problem really). They suck at the top specs though, the 370Zs circuit spec is really slow. You could complete the story in a single car though if you wanted, easy, and I guess that's what they were going for. Re: The never ending "driving physics" debate, I think t1g4h is hitting pretty close to the mark. It's a game, and it doesn't claim to be a sim. As with any other game, you need to learn the rules of the game to play it effectively. What you guys are doing is essentially playing Monopoly, and saying "I am a property realtor and this game does not behave how I was expecting based on my real life experiences! This is a bad game because it is not what I was expecting." It is... a reverse car analogy? Which, you know, is alright I guess. you are disappointed and that's okay. What I can't understand iss, having been disappointed, why you all stick around and keep making GBS threads on it over and over. Oh wait, goons. AirRaid fucked around with this message at 09:29 on Jan 10, 2015 |
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Jan 10, 2015 09:22
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AirRaid posted:Re: The never ending "driving physics" debate, I think t1g4h is hitting pretty close to the mark. It's a game, and it doesn't claim to be a sim. As with any other game, you need to learn the rules of the game to play it effectively. 
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Jan 10, 2015 16:15
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Forwarded my ports and got my connection issues sorted. Multiplayer is pretty good fun and easy to make money to boot. I notice there's a sale on some cars, but real money only. Oh Ubisoft The odds of getting a low-level platinum part must be higher than getting a high-level part right?
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Jan 10, 2015 17:49
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Great Joe posted:You seem to be the only one having fun with the driving model, I guess you're just bad at having good taste in car games. T1g4h posted:I would argue that The Crew does have a consistent driving / physics model, just not your typical one that you'd be expecting. Is it odd and counter to what a car should do in real life? Yeah, sometimes. But it's consistent and once you figure it out, it's really not hard to drift corners and rally down dirt roads like a pro. Not only that, but to me it feels better than a lot of supposedly well done racing games (I'm looking at you, Shift 2 Unleashed.) I genuinely like the driving model, it's pretty fun to me. On the same page, man. There are others back in the thread but I can't be bothered to find specific posts. Junkenstein posted:The odds of getting a low-level platinum part must be higher than getting a high-level part right? Yeah I hope you like level 40/41 parts! That's probably the worst thing about the endgame. Yeah I suppose you're only meant to do it once and then just buy parts but goddamn they are sso expensive. I'm not buying a 50k car and then spending 400k on parts for it.
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AirRaid posted:On the same page, man. There are others back in the thread but I can't be bothered to find specific posts.
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Jan 10, 2015 22:24
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And nothing of value was lost.
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Jan 10, 2015 22:26
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Having trouble comprehending what more I have to do to get gold in some "story" events. Tedious...
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Jan 10, 2015 22:30
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AirRaid posted:It is... a reverse car analogy?  I, too, am having fun with the handling of this game, i wouldn't say the driving model is without issues, but it is serviceable despite it being wonky at times. TDU2 (I haven't played the first) had a pretty janky physicsmodel as well, and that game still has the second most playtime on my Steamaccount. All in all, for me, it scratches that itch that TDU2 left behind, and I'm having fun even with quite some missed opportunities, but YMMV. UntunedGuitar on uPlay if you need some more friends to send on faction mission.
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Jan 10, 2015 23:47
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Jesus christ shut up Orv.
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Jan 11, 2015 02:37
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Great Joe posted:Well I'm not having fun with it. And if I'm not having fun with it then obviously no-one is! And in other news if I put my head in this sand you can't see me lalalalalalalaa
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Jan 11, 2015 09:08
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I said earlier that while its clearly nothing like Gran Turismo or Forza, the gameplay seems just as good as any Need For Speed game. Quit gettin mad about videogames Great Joe T1g4h posted:Miura Perf spec makes sense though. It's based off the real life Miura Jota, which was an actual proper Miura racer. Miura Perf spec makes total sense, yes. Miura Perf ONLY with a lack of circuit spec makes no goddamned sense.
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I am fine with things not making sense. As long as it's "not making sense" in the vein of raid spec Lamborghinis and circuit spec Hummers. Reasons why this should happen -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuIe3TZzFZk Thing is though we know why some specs which should be there are missing. The game was rushed out and it's already been alluded that more spec wil be added for free in the future.
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Jan 11, 2015 09:26
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Oh, hell, one of the community guys from Ubi didn't just allude to it, he flat out confirmed they're going to be adding them in as time goes by. They'll be added in for free, you have to buy them with Bucks like you would any other spec for your car. No paid DLC, they're just going to be added in as free content.quote:For example, the Ford F150 SVT Raptor will have all of the five specs available (Street, Dirt, Raid, Performance and Circuit) and if you don’t see them in the game already, don’t worry they’re on their way. They're coming, though they're not guaranteeing maximum silliness 
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Jan 11, 2015 09:48
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I want an Ariel Atom with monster truck tires.
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Jan 11, 2015 13:58
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Shadowlz posted:Counterpoint: this game is fun. AirRaid posted:And if I'm having fun with it then obviously everyone is!
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Speaking of TDU2. 4 bux for PC at the moment
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Jan 11, 2015 16:23
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Isn't the server for playing TDU2 hosed?
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Jan 11, 2015 16:47
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Kaddion posted:Isn't the server for playing TDU2 hosed? While I personally haven't verified people on Steam say the servers are still up including the casino which is all that matters.
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Yodzilla posted:I want an Ariel Atom with monster truck tires. Well, they're not quite monster truck tires, but... Good enough?
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Jan 11, 2015 18:45
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Hell yes that's loving sweet.
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T1g4h posted:Oh, hell, one of the community guys from Ubi didn't just allude to it, he flat out confirmed they're going to be adding them in as time goes by. They'll be added in for free, you have to buy them with Bucks like you would any other spec for your car. No paid DLC, they're just going to be added in as free content. This is good news! I don't care how goofy a spec is, I want all cars to have as many specs as possible. Raid spec lambo? YES! But some aren't even goofy that should be in-game. Hopefully they focus on circuit spec first. T1g4h posted:Well, they're not quite monster truck tires, but... Its sad its not AWD, but I like how the car itself is pretty much just a rollcage with wheels. The original Atom was wicked fast, this probably is too just because its 1/3 the weight of any other offroad vehicle. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Jan 11, 2015 |
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Ugh the take down mission in the snow finally broke me, I didn't even touch the other car once and I've been trying for 30 minutes. I'm done with this game, really tried to like it and did enjoy some parts of it, but the bad stuff just outweighed the good stuff. The weird rear end handling I could deal with, the lovely rubber banding I could deal with, but combine those two together and you just end up with a frustrating experience. I'd just be happy driving around in all these cars, but it's just so loving grindy to get any sort of cash. I'm still in the first car they give you in the beginning was wanting to save up for a decent car, but gently caress it, it's not worth putting up with all the frustrations for a game that's just supposed to be driving around doing chill poo poo.
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Jan 13, 2015 05:09
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I had the same issue on that take down mission and I was using the Mustang or whatever as well. Unless you're good, forget about trying to take him down before the city, and pray you manage to do it before he leaves it because unless you buy one of the other vehicles that are more powerful, especially a Raid one then you will never catch up if you make a mistake or hit a tree. I'm trying to take down that corrupt FBI guy now but the provided Raid vehicle for the mission has lovely handling and the terrain is even worse to try to stay on target to go through the packages to get enough to finish. You have to keep going fast, and if you slow down at any point you likely won't have enough time at the end.
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Jan 13, 2015 05:18
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There's no penalty for using back on track in a takedown mission so feel free to abuse it. Also story missions are poop money go PvP or faction missions which are level scaled or learn to drift and do drift combos for megabux. Also if you can't afford a car by the time you get to the snow takedown mission you must have been spending a poo poo ton of bucks on something that whole time because I had a few cars by then. also lmao   
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Lyer posted:Ugh the take down mission in the snow finally broke me, I didn't even touch the other car once and I've been trying for 30 minutes. I'm done with this game, really tried to like it and did enjoy some parts of it, but the bad stuff just outweighed the good stuff. The weird rear end handling I could deal with, the lovely rubber banding I could deal with, but combine those two together and you just end up with a frustrating experience. I'd just be happy driving around in all these cars, but it's just so loving grindy to get any sort of cash. I'm still in the first car they give you in the beginning was wanting to save up for a decent car, but gently caress it, it's not worth putting up with all the frustrations for a game that's just supposed to be driving around doing chill poo poo. I didn't have much trouble with the snow one using my BMW Whatever EDIT: THIS ONE. It's pretty fast, and has a nice street spec, and is pretty cheap. I did the bus takedown which people seem to complain about on my second try with it. When it comes to grinding cash, have you been playing multiplayer? The bucks to time played ratio makes grinding any other way pointless. Over 15000 for pretty short races, doesn't matter what position you come. Junkenstein fucked around with this message at 11:50 on Jan 13, 2015 |
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Jan 13, 2015 11:47
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Extra posted:also lmao
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Jan 13, 2015 12:48
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Junkenstein posted:When it comes to grinding cash, have you been playing multiplayer? The bucks to time played ratio makes grinding any other way pointless. Over 15000 for pretty short races, doesn't matter what position you come. The detroit raid sprint is like $15,000/minute.
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Jan 13, 2015 14:08
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Is the drivin module anything like Driver San Francisco? I read that some of those guys worked on this. I still really want it, I love open world caRPGS ever since NFSU2, but waiting for a price drop.
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Jan 13, 2015 14:22
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Abu Dave posted:Is the drivin module anything like Driver San Francisco?
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Extra posted:The detroit raid sprint is like $15,000/minute. Ooh, I must have missed that one. What is it, a Faction mission?
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