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Nov 18, 2010

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axeil posted:

I found this bit very illuminating:


Moving textbooks away from "everyone gets textbooks made for CA or TX" would do a world of good.

They're already doing that because it's a lot cheaper to make textbooks these days.

And the common core solution is just "instead of everyone getting textbooks made for Texas it's everyone gets textbooks made for Common Core!"

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Nov 18, 2010

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Skeesix posted:

One thing I'm curious about with respect to "falling behind": I heard at one point that America is not really falling behind... When it comes to educating white people. That when you look at the numbers for whites in the US you get something on the order of Norway or Finland but we just do such an execrable job educating minorities that the us looks pretty poor on the numbers. Of course I haven't really looked at the numbers there but I think it was on an NPR program where they were examining how elites in the country want to shake up education and how they're doing so.

Yes.

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Country or "Economy" 	Reading 		Science 		Math 		Mean
							
OECD average              	496 		501 		494 		497
							
Shanghai-China            	570 		580 		613 		587
Singapore                 	542 		551 		573 		556
Hong Kong-China           	545 		555 		561 		554
Asian Americans 	550 		546 		549 		548
Korea, Republic of        	536 		538 		554 		542
Japan                     	538 		547 		536 		540
Chinese Taipei            	523 		523 		560 		535
Finland                   	524 		545 		519 		529
Estonia                   	516 		541 		521 		526
Liechtenstein             	516 		525 		535 		525
Massachusetts All Races 	527 		527 		514 		523
Macao-China               	509 		521 		538 		523
Canada                    	523 		525 		518 		522
Poland                    	518 		526 		518 		521
Netherlands               	511 		522 		523 		519
Switzerland               	509 		515 		531 		518
White Americans 	519 		528 		506 		518
Connecticut All Races 	521 		521 		506 		516
Vietnam                   	508 		528 		511 		516
Ireland                   	523 		522 		501 		516
Germany                   	508 		524 		514 		515
Australia                 	512 		521 		504 		512
Belgium                   	509 		505 		515 		510
New Zealand               	512 		516 		500 		509
Multiracial Americans 	517 		511 		492 		507
United Kingdom            	499 		514 		494 		502
Austria                   	490 		506 		506 		500
Czech Republic            	493 		508 		499 		500
France                    	505 		499 		495 		500
Slovenia                  	481 		514 		501 		499
Denmark                   	496 		498 		500 		498
Norway                    	504 		495 		489 		496
Latvia                    	489 		502 		491 		494
United States             	498 		497 		481 		492
Luxembourg                	488 		491 		490 		490
Spain                     	488 		496 		484 		490
Italy                     	490 		494 		485 		490
Portugal                  	488 		489 		487 		488
Hungary                   	488 		494 		477 		487
Iceland                   	483 		478 		493 		484
Lithuania                 	477 		496 		479 		484
Croatia                   	485 		491 		471 		482
Sweden                    	483 		485 		478 		482
Florida All Races 	492 		485 		467 		481
Russian Federation        	475 		486 		482 		481
Israel                    	486 		470 		466 		474
Slovak Republic           	463 		471 		482 		472
Greece                    	477 		467 		453 		466
Hispanic Americans 	478 		462 		455 		465
Turkey                    	475 		463 		448 		462
Serbia, Republic of       	446 		445 		449 		447
Cyprus                    	449 		438 		440 		442
United Arab Emirates      	442 		448 		434 		441
Bulgaria                  	436 		446 		439 		440
Romania                   	438 		439 		445 		440
Thailand                  	441 		444 		427 		437
Chile                     	441 		445 		423 		436
African Americans 	443 		439 		421 		434
Costa Rica                	441 		429 		407 		426
Mexico                    	424 		415 		413 		417
Kazakhstan                	393 		425 		432 		416
Montenegro, Republic of   	422 		410 		410 		414
Malaysia                  	398 		420 		421 		413
Uruguay                   	411 		416 		409 		412
Brazil                    	410 		405 		391 		402
Jordan                    	399 		409 		386 		398
Argentina                 	396 		406 		388 		397
Tunisia                   	404 		398 		388 		397
Albania                   	394 		397 		394 		395
Colombia                  	403 		399 		376 		393
Indonesia                 	396 		382 		375 		384
Qatar                     	388 		384 		376 		383
Peru                      	384 		373 		368 		375

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Nov 18, 2010

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tsa posted:

Really the most glaring problem is that we are just now implementing statistics curriculum into middle school and high school. It will be interesting to see how students who go through those classes compare to their slightly older peers who did not.

There's been an optional dedicated class to it for forever and some applications (eg, basic probability) have been part of the algebra curriculum for a while now.

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Nov 18, 2010

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Bel Shazar posted:

I, for one, would expect to see good value from courses designed to help children create effective visual representations of their ideas.

They'd be taught on Visio if anything.

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Nov 18, 2010

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KillHour posted:

There's a reason McDonalds has the "Double Quarter Pounder" and not the "Half Pounder."

Then again, places like Fuddruckers have fractional denominations and I doubt their clientele are significantly more intelligent.

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Nov 18, 2010

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Renaissance Robot posted:

Is there an actual reason why American supermarkets continue to defy progress by displaying neither 100g/1kg normalised prices nor price after tax on shelf labels?

No one in the US displays price after tax and in my experience for a group of products they do $/[unit weight] where the unit weight is the same (there are some exceptions though; popcorn is occasionally $/ounce or $/package for seemingly random reasons).

Price after tax is also different in the US because it's explicitly not a VAT.

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Nov 18, 2010

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rkajdi posted:

We do display for a few things (gasoline, movie theaters), but in general we don't include sales tax into the price of things. I think it's messed up since it helps out regressive southern hellholes (who fund themselves through sales taxes instead of income taxes) since it makes your prices seem similar when you're actually paying 1-2% extra.

Of the seven states that don't charge income tax, only two of them were part of the former confederacy (and none of the others existed when the Civil War first started).

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Nov 18, 2010

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rkajdi posted:

It's not just having zero income taxes, it's also having low ones. Either way places the burden of funding the state on the poor. Southern states are heavier users of sales taxes, as shown by this map:



Also, being in the Confederacy is sufficient but not necessary to be a Southern state. You would consider WV to be Southern, correct?

I don't see a clear geographic trend at all, there are darker states all over and lighter states all over.

It's also funny you bring up West Virginia because they have one of the lowest sales tax rates per your map (Virginia, an "actual" southern state, is in the bottom 10).

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Nov 18, 2010

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JeffersonClay posted:

The anecdote on the last page about innumeracy leading consumers to believe a 1/4 pound burger had more meat than a 1/3 pound is exactly the problem common core standards seek to address. The CCSS focus much more on making practical connections between real life and math, and heuristics to promote those connections, rather than series of algorithms. So kids spend more time comparing visual, concrete representations of fractions than they do simplifying fractions, for example.

Or you could just convert everything to decimal. :v:

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