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Ardennes
May 12, 2002
Much of the "No Excuses" stuff sounds like during even elementary schools into mini-prisons, if anything it makes a very sad amount of sense looking at the way our criminal justice system is designed.

Anyway, the common core as a concept may not be such a bad thing, but I expect the implementation to most likely be quite haphazard especially since most teachers don't understand it and I doubt the federal government or state governments are going to pour serious money into fixing it. The most dangerous a bad system is, is when it seriously tries to reform itself. It doesn't help either it is likely to be tied to the hip to all the rest as others have said.

Even if you are white and middle class, you have to wonder if you want to throw your kid into such a mess.

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Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Slobjob Zizek posted:

I think the narrative lot union-busting/teacher resentment/etc. is implicitly tied to the idea that the profession of teaching (or medicine or the academy or whatever) has some intrinsic value. But does it? Do teachers really "know what's best for their classroom"?

Pro-teacher (and pro-physician) arguments seem to be that "it's not their job" to deal with social problems or "it's not their fault" that their students/patients are more disadvantaged than others. Maybe so, but if we have this population of beneficiaries that needs to be catered to in new ways, why are the professional concerns of teachers/doctors/professors/etc. always paramount? In short, why do we care about professional autonomy so much?

Probably because professional autonomy is a completely separate than much broader social ills that honestly need to be handled at the political level. It doesn't help that the political class seems to be ignoring social ills while reducing autonomy...most likely for ideological reasons.

If anything reducing teacher autonomy is most likely going to make those ills worse because the current ideological underpinning of most of the reforms is very damaging and teachers have no ability to resist whatever new scheme is cooked up.

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