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The old thread fell into the archives because progress has been eluding me. This is where I left you (if I remember correctly):  At this point the car made over 400hp, ran a sub 11 second quarter mile and started falling apart. The turbo manifold broke around the welds for the wastegate which caused me to yank the motor out and swap shells while I was waiting on the replacement. The new shell is a 1994 Civic VX hatchback, a 6 year improvement! Updated build: LS/VTEC 2 liter B18a1 block with Darton sleeves 84mm forged pistons 9:1 compression Forged rods with ARP wristpins Equal length turbo manifold 60-1 T4 .84 A/R Turbo Tial MVR wastegate/Tial BOV Edlebrock Victor X intake manifold B18C5 head GSC Double valvesprings GSC valve guides/valve seals GSC valves GSC T1 cams While the motor was out, I decided to upgrade the valvetrain as I was still using the stock Integra Type R stuff. I bought a full valvetrain from GSC Power Division which was installed about 3 weeks ago. The machine shop ran into a problem where the valve lash couldn't be adjusted to spec. Eventually we ripped the cams out to find the problem.  All new valvetrain.   The VTEC lobe is hitting the cam girdle on the exhaust cam. Probably isn't supposed to do that.  Yeah, they are definitely hitting.  This is the intake side and how the center lobe should clear  Can you tell what the problem is with the Exhaust cam? (right side)  VTEC cam lobe measured at the smallest point on the GSC exhaust cam  VTEC cam lob measured at the smallest point on a Brian Crower stage 2 NA cam. Well there is the problem. This is where I am now, GSC overnighted a new exhaust cam for me which I should get tomorrow or Monday. Once I get the cam I will be able to drop the motor in. I need to put the shell back together as well, I bought it complete but in pieces. Here is a similar build with the GSC cams: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMqnQDBl_Ls doogle fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Jul 28, 2014 |
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Sweet! My friend has a similar build that I'm helping tune on Neptune. His is a little crazier, it's a sleeved 1.9l with a crap ton of work, BC++ head and a gt35r. His setup was kinda laggy with the gt35r, I think it has a T3 hotside, why did you choose such a big hotside? I'm going to look at an EF hatch tomorrow to make a fun daily.
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Jul 26, 2014 07:29
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 The first thread was one of the more memorable ones since I joined SA and AI, nice to see progress on Suicide Civic part the 2nd.
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Jul 26, 2014 08:36
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Oh I am so excited that you are back 
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Jul 26, 2014 08:51
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It's crazy how fast you can make an old Civic hatchback.
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Jul 26, 2014 17:16
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^They used to stamp 'em out by the millions, not so much any more.
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Jul 26, 2014 22:35
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Not really true. The K series motor is an absolute tank of a hunk of aluminum. People are doing all sorts of crazy poo poo, but pretty much the 90s/00s import scene was nothing but Honda B motors. Yo doogle, we still gotta swap rides when both of our cars are working at the same time.
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Jul 26, 2014 23:00
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Why is the bad exhaust cam so huge? 2mm is an enormous amount to be out by. Is it designed for a different engine with a smaller cam girdle?
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Jul 26, 2014 23:18
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Phone posted:Not really true. It was a lame joke about how fast they came off the assembly line 
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Jul 27, 2014 01:14
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I've missed this project. Having owned a B16 swapped E I am looking forward to this thread once more, seeing all the crazy poo poo that I never had the money to do when I owned it.
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Jul 27, 2014 03:33
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mafoose posted:why did you choose such a big hotside? Because I got the turbo for basically free. Once it goes I'll be switching to a 6262. Phone posted:Yo doogle, we still gotta swap rides when both of our cars are working at the same time. Yeah buddy! As long as everything else goes as planned (probably not) mine should be done by the end of August. Seat Safety Switch posted:Why is the bad exhaust cam so huge? 2mm is an enormous amount to be out by. Is it designed for a different engine with a smaller cam girdle? I don't know, GSC makes them in batches of 100 (at least that is what they told me) and I was the first person with this problem.
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Jul 27, 2014 04:00
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There's lots of talk of bad GSC and Kelford cams in the Subaru world.
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Jul 27, 2014 06:44
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 The new cam came in, everything seems in spec this time. I'm cleaning the head up and hopefully I will be able to adjust the valves tonight or tomorrow. Once the valves are adjusted I'll be able to put the motor in the car and then mock up the charge piping and get it welded.
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Jul 28, 2014 21:15
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I reassembled the head and adjusted the valves, I adjusted them to spec easily now that I have a cam that isn't hosed. But now I can't find where I put the shift fork for the transmission, I had to order another one. Hopefully I'll get it by Friday. Once that comes in I'll be able to put the trans on the motor and drop everything in.
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Jul 30, 2014 03:02
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doogle posted:now I can't find where I put the shift fork for the transmission, I had to order another one. Hopefully I'll get it by Friday. Once that comes in I'll find the one I lost  Love your hella fast civic.
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Jul 30, 2014 03:07
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Yessssssss this thread!
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Jul 30, 2014 04:24
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Glad to see this project back and alive. Please don't let it die again!
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Jul 30, 2014 06:40
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A 400hp civic is the stuff dreams are made of. Godspeed.
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Jul 30, 2014 18:38
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I just checked my desk to make sure somebody hadn't stolen my calipers. You're off the hook, doogle.
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Jul 30, 2014 19:10
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 Picture of the shell. The paint is in very good condition but the previous owner put a carbon fiber roof, hood and hatch on it. I'll probably leave them on the car but paint them eventually. I should get the clutch fork tomorrow or Monday. I'm going to California for a couple weeks but once I'm back I should be able to finish the car in about 2 weeks.
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Aug 1, 2014 21:45
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Oh man, I miss three-spokes being in fashion.
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 The parts came in today, hopefully I will be dropping the motor in tonight. edit: I HAD TO OVERNIGHT PARTS FROM JAPAN
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 Motor and trans ready to be dropped in  Car on the lift and ready for the motor  Much easier dropping the car on the motor than putting the motor in from the top.  Motor in.  Turbo and wastegate on That is all I was able to get done today. The motor in physically in, but I still have to hook up all the ancillaries. Once I get back from vacation I should be able to finish installing the motor and get the charge piping mocked up then welded. After that I'll have to wait for the tuner to give me a date he is free. At that point all I will have to do is put the rest of the car together (rocker panels, hood, lights, bumper, traction bar) and it will be ready to drive.
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 The intercooler piping is almost done being mocked up, just have to figure out how to get the hot side around the traction bar. Once everything clears it will be taped up and taken to the machine shop to get welded so there will only be 4 couplers.
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 Charge piping is welded up to the throttle body because there wasn't enough lip to reliably hold the coupler on.  Turbo screen and sweet press fitting reference line installed.  Turbo blanket on, ceramic coated manifold and heat wrapped downpipe.  What I have left to do: -Install Integra throttle cable -Replace rubber hoses with ones that are long enough -Install valve cover and catch can -Install new fuel filter and fuel line -Wire the boost solenoid -Install front fender liners -Drain fuel tank I had to order some AN fittings for the fuel line, the old fuel filter is the lovely one that doesn't flow worth a drat so I have to convert it to a EK (96-00 civic) fuel filter. I had an old AN line so I figured I'll just buy the fittings for that while I'm at it. The worst part will be digging out an Integra throttle cable from the junk yard, hopefully it isn't too hot tomorrow. At this rate with all the random problems that are popping up, I'll probably start the car sometime this century.
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Sep 5, 2014 04:20
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Good luck with that steel manifold.
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Sep 5, 2014 07:03
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Adonis posted:Good luck with that steel manifold. I don't need luck where I'm going, I have the skill to swap manifolds in under an hour and a lifetime warranty.
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This is one of my favorite AI projects. I always wanted to do this when I was poor and had a CRX. I just built one in Forza instead and bought a Cayman. Jealous.
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You updated just to rub Rhyno's nose in it, didn't you. Poor Rhyno is reading this with ads all over his screen yelling at his inability to post and his inability to finish the turbo Honda project he started. I had a base Civic like that when they were new and before any "scene" at all existed. I shudder to think what I would have done with that poor car if turbos were a thing.
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  I put the throttle cable on and swapped the fuel filter to a 96-00 civic style one. I just have to cut the hardline, flare it and attach it to the new filter at the bottom. My AN line has a straight connector on it so I either have to switch it to a 90 degree, or find a 90 degree AN fitting for the fuel filter. I ordered all the hoses which should get here tomorrow as well. Hopefully I'll have the fuel system finished tomorrow, if I do I can drain the tank, fill it up with some good gas and fire it up. -Replace rubber hoses with ones that are long enough -Install valve cover and catch can -Wire the boost solenoid -Wire the wideband -Install front fender liners -Drain fuel tank
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I didn't take any pictures but I did a few things: -Install valve cover and catch can -Install front fender liners -Drain fuel tank I'm going to try to drain the tank and finish that fuel line tomorrow, if I do I should be able to start the car. Hopefully. Probably not.
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Hey what redline are you looking to hit with this?
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revmoo posted:Hey what redline are you looking to hit with this? I'll have to see how the powerband falls, but most likely around 10k.
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doogle posted:I'll have to see how the powerband falls, but most likely around 10k. That's impressive. If something bad happens we want picks. If it works perfectly we want even more pics. This is great stuff.
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 I'm pretty busy at work so things are going slow. I got the fuel line completed now at least. I somehow broke the flaring tool and had to get a new one so it took a couple days. I found a couple more things I'm going to have to do before this bitch is done too: -Install valve cover and catch can -Install front fender liners -Drain fuel tank -Put the damper pulley on and replace alternator belt -Pull the turbo off and rerun the water line behind the dipstick
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I cannot find the damper pulley, I need to find it before I can start the car. The stupid things are like $300, I hope I don't have to buy another one. I'm going to tear apart the shop tomorrow looking for it, if I do I will post video of the car starting for the first time. I also took care of some other poo poo that needed to be done eventually, the non-upgraded axle had a torn boot so I took it in to autozone and got another free replacement. Honda B series tip: only buy the upgraded passenger side axle, you can keep a stock axle on the driver's side and it will never break. Probably has something to do with the intermediate shaft or something, but every single axle that I have seen break on a B series Honda was the passenger side. -Install valve cover -Install front fender liners -Put the damper pulley on and replace alternator belt -Add fluids and start the bitch
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I've snapped a drivers side axle on a bone stock Integra before.  Automatic, at that. No warning except for a couple of pops while backing out of the driveway, then a crack (and the sound of parts hitting the ground) when I put it in drive.
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some texas redneck posted:I've snapped a drivers side axle on a bone stock Integra before. That sounds more like someone tried to apply full throttle with the wheels locked.
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doogle posted:I'll have to see how the powerband falls, but most likely around 10k. A B18 can take that alright?
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Hey doogle, would you mind posting or emailing me your timing map? My friend with a similar car (B16? 10:1cr 12psi of boost from a gt35r) just did this, and so I was looking over his tune and I think he's running too much timing.  I'm surprised there isn't detonation damage on the head, must be the 110LL av gas he's running...
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