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Sagebrush posted:i got the modem from the company and i wasn't willing to pay for the router modem because i already had a router and the plain modem was still docsis 3 so what's the difference? they told me i would not be able to do wireless networking without the router modem and i was like "right, i know, sure". they said "this is for one computer only, you need the networking package (a more expensive one) to use it with more than one computer" and again i said sure whatever. lol
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yeah mac address binding is common v0v that java app is annoying tho
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Sagebrush posted:i got the modem from the company and i wasn't willing to pay for the router modem because i already had a router and the plain modem was still docsis 3 so what's the difference? they told me i would not be able to do wireless networking without the router modem and i was like "right, i know, sure". they said "this is for one computer only, you need the networking package (a more expensive one) to use it with more than one computer" and again i said sure whatever. free market bitch
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Sagebrush posted:i got the modem from the company and i wasn't willing to pay for the router modem because i already had a router and the plain modem was still docsis 3 so what's the difference? they told me i would not be able to do wireless networking without the router modem and i was like "right, i know, sure". they said "this is for one computer only, you need the networking package (a more expensive one) to use it with more than one computer" and again i said sure whatever. lmao
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a cable company claimed they needed to send a technician out to change the mac filtering so it would let my new cable modem. i just berated and mocked the manager over the phone until they agreed it was stupid to charge me 60 euro and send a technician to my place to do nothing. i even think i got a discount. moral of the story: be horrible to customer service and good things happen.
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Sagebrush posted:i'ts basically the same as the phone companies charging extra for tethering your phone to your computer and i imagine they'd justify it the same way Lol, look at all these lawyers, bring it bitch?
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ShadowHawk posted:...somehow. ugh....................................
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Shaggar posted:the att breakup lead to a fragmentation of technology that probably set the telcom industry back 10 years pram posted:i agree completely. its much easier to fund something like bell labs when yr shareholders arent wanting to strip mine any value from the company I agree with both of these things in a qualified way that i will not detail at this time. But I will say that with a huge privatized strategically important infrastructure system a regulated monopoly is better for the public good then a bunch of petty cash-grab company's who were handed a shitload of capital investment with no expectations except to make a bunch of money for the politically connected individuals lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time.
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ehhhhhhhh that's a pretty lovely argument, and you're focusing on the US only once Alcatel bought Lucent there are no remaining telecom specific megavendors in the US, they're all Chinese or European (Cisco doesn't count) deregulation of telecom if anything probably only helped overall, all at&t did was spend 100 years perfecting voice telephony, a monolithic giant like 100% vertically integrated att/bell labs/western electric would not be able to keep up in the 21st century at all
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and i mean this purely in the technology space, not the provider/operator space all deregulation of operating companies has done in the us for consumers is allow for insanely high price gouging
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Sagebrush posted:i got the modem from the company and i wasn't willing to pay for the router modem because i already had a router and the plain modem was still docsis 3 so what's the difference? they told me i would not be able to do wireless networking without the router modem and i was like "right, i know, sure". they said "this is for one computer only, you need the networking package (a more expensive one) to use it with more than one computer" and again i said sure whatever. they are the loving worst the fact that mac spoofing is not only common but a bullet-point-on-the-box feature for nearly all consumer routers is bonkers to me
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theadder posted:bonus points for the java shaggard again
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maniacdevnull posted:they are the loving worst yeah with the explicit "Clone This MAC" button, its so obvious lol
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this was a holdover from back in the day when they used to charge you for multiple IP addresses if you wanted to have multiple computers on the Internet. IP masquerading, as it was called at the time, was against the terms of service and this was their gently caress you to people doing that.
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The Management posted:IP masquerading, as it was called at the time, was against the terms of service and this was their gently caress you to people doing that. is this any different from "network address translation"
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The Management posted:this was a holdover from back in the day when they used to charge you for multiple IP addresses if you wanted to have multiple computers on the Internet. IP masquerading, as it was called at the time, was against the terms of service and this was their gently caress you to people doing that. if they were really super-anal they did packet inspection and if the ttl was less than 63 or whatever, they'd drop your poo poo. of course people iptables'd around it but still
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comcast jacked up their rental fee to $10 so anyone renting a modem (shaggar) for more than 7 months is a loving moron
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Shaggar posted:the children are rhetorical, obviously. lol
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The Management posted:this was a holdover from back in the day when they used to charge you for multiple IP addresses if you wanted to have multiple computers on the Internet. IP masquerading, as it was called at the time, was against the terms of service and this was their gently caress you to people doing that. uhh who did this. every poo poo broadband router ive ever had used nat
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i'm too young to really have dealt with that but i have vague memories of helping people set up their internets i was still using dialup at home but i was still the guy who set up the internet for all my friends parents because i was Good With Computers
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pram posted:are u guys talking about isdn or something a good album but i still think the lifeforms 2cd set was prolly my favorite
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pram posted:are u guys talking about isdn or something scott adams sincerely believed that isdn would be the future of high-speed internet
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:scott adams sincerely believed that isdn would be the future of high-speed internet It's sorta where highspeed fiber is. Of course tech analogies are lol.
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i had like the fist cable internet available, people used to plug hubs into the modems and connect multiple pcs so the isp would frequently run out of ips. they set up an internal site to deal with it where you logged in with your subscription number to be assigned an ip and it would log you out every 20 minutes unless you clicked on a button in the popup window you had to keep open at all times. such quality service.
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pram posted:uhh who did this. every poo poo broadband router ive ever had used nat all of them, everyone, everywhere, back when cable/dsl rollouts first happened and your computers were hooked up directly to raw internet with SMB wide open to the local segment and if you wanted more than one computer you had to pay for them, and they would send you a 10mbit hub to link them together But even then, the ISps around here were very loose with the MAC address stuff, if a new one appeared you just had to log in and say "yes this is the mac for this connection give me the real internet now" and itd re-dhcp you now the only restriction is if you change mac too many times too fast they just won't send more leases until an old one expires, but that's not really a common thing to happen.
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i have twc and bought my own docsis 3 modem. u can change the computer that it's plugged into but u have to reboot teh modem every time you do it. also it gives you a static ipv6 /64 subnet out of the box too which is pretty cool also you can literally run an smtp server or any other kind of server if you want and iirc it isn't against the tos then again i live in nyc and there's fios everywhere (not my building  ) so they actually kinda sorta have to compete which i'm sure we can agree is literally communism, ugh. i'm sure out in the sticks they gouge the gently caress out of utwc: "hey at least we aren't comcast" lol
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EMILY BLUNTS posted:all of them, everyone, everywhere, back when cable/dsl rollouts first happened and your computers were hooked up directly to raw internet with SMB wide open to the local segment calm down there grandpa
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pram posted:isdn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU85IGjDvPY
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thanks but Sniep posted:a good album but i still think the lifeforms 2cd set was prolly my favorite see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2XQ0RYUX5o then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPEOdNxdVQM Sniep fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Jan 4, 2015 |
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i like :we have explosive" the best but idk what album that is
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Smythe posted:i like :we have explosive" the best but idk what album that is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSD0Rnl84b0
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Mr Dog posted:i have twc and bought my own docsis 3 modem. u can change the computer that it's plugged into but u have to reboot teh modem every time you do it. also it gives you a static ipv6 /64 subnet out of the box too which is pretty cool they actually give out /56 addresses if you set the prefix-hint in the dhcpv6 client
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Mr Dog posted:
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Smythe posted:i like :we have explosive" the best but idk what album that is dead cities https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc9l7pygQRo
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