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Rules 1) Don't engage these morons. They are wacky enough without encouragement. 2) Don't argue about politics. There is another subforum for that. What is the Dark Enlightenment? Short Answer-A bunch of basement dwellers who beat off daily to the singularity and how much better things were before democracy. Long answer quote:“Reactionary” originally meant someone who opposed the French Revolution, and today the term generally refers to those who would like to return to some pre-existing state of affairs. Neoreaction — aka “dark enlightenment — begins with computer scientist and entrepreneur Curtis Yarvin, who blogs under the name Mencius Moldbug. Yarvin — the self-described Sith Lord of the movement — got his start as a commenter on sites like 2blowhards before starting his own blog Unqualified Reservations in 2007. Yarvin originally called his ideology “formalism,” but in 2010 libertarian blogger Arnold Kling referred to him as a “neo-reactionary.” The name stuck as more bloggers — such as Anomaly UK (who helped popularize the term), Nick Land (who coined “dark enlightenment”) and Michael Anissimov — started to self-identify as neoreactionary. Who is Mencius Moldbug? This guy Among other things, Dark Enlightement Thinkers enjoy making magic cards flaunting their lovely purple prose political treatises. Besides making magic cards of themselves, they love making lovely graphs and figures full of big words. drat thats a lot of fancy mumbo-jumbo, does it make any sense? Not really. A lack of self awareness is a vital requirement to joining the Dark Enlightenment. For all their fetishization of science they have no loving clue of how it actually works. Genetics, for instance quote:What is HBD? Human biodiversity is the rejection of the “blank state” of human nature. Creepily obsessed with statistics that demonstrate IQ differences between the races, the darkly enlightened see social hierarchies as determined not by culture or opportunity but by the cold, hard destiny embedded in DNA. One blogger calls it “The Voldemort View” (adding Harry Potter to the Star Wars/Matrix mix), claiming that, “mean differences in group IQs are the most likely explanation for the academic achievement gap in racial and SES [socioeconomic status] groups.” The Lesswrong Mockthread occasionally dips into this pool of crazy, but as a whole it is tangential to that thread's subject matter, hence here we are.
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Please tell me there's a rulebook for this game. I want know more about this perfect world of libertarian monarchies.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 02:09 |
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What a coincidence, their worldview would put them on top of their natural hierarchy. Pretty wacky!
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 02:24 |
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Toussaint Louverture. That guy kicked rear end.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 04:01 |
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ah yes... the perfect melding of secular traditionalist and masculinity the Hawaiian Libertarian.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 04:18 |
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Is there some story behind the name "Mencius Moldbug?" Why did this dude choose an Internet handle that sounds like something a second-rate Dickens imitator would reject for being too hamfistedly villainous?
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 04:24 |
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This is what you get when you get a board-gamer so isolated from normal social interaction that his hobby has become his ego, so that he thinks critical hit charts, the eight schools of magic, and the Great Wheel of the Planes are also a window into understanding the world in a way no one else can. Starting with politics!
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 04:56 |
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I think I might have gone crosseyed looking at the charts in the OP.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 05:03 |
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Does Alex Kierkegaard/icycalm count? Because his "philosophy" webpage/blog is simply the worst.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 05:04 |
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It's like they made a political philosophy about trying to be both too smart for you and too edgy for you. "You know what's totally overrated? All Forms of Democracy. "
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 05:19 |
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Man I am tripping balls from that OP. wow.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 05:26 |
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Antivehicular posted:Is there some story behind the name "Mencius Moldbug?" Why did this dude choose an Internet handle that sounds like something a second-rate Dickens imitator would reject for being too hamfistedly villainous? Sham bam bamina! has a new favorite as of 05:58 on Jul 29, 2014 |
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I'm something of a dark enlightenment conneseuer and I gotta tell you I have a hard time choosing between the misplaced idolization of extinct cultures in The Legionnaire and John Derbyshire's blend of Archy Bunker Dad with circa 1900 scientific racism
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 06:09 |
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Considering that this just came up in the Lesswrong Mockthread rear end well what is it with egotistical pseudoscientific idiots and misunderstanding IQ scores.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 06:26 |
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IQ is your real life Int stat line.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 06:44 |
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"Thinker" is such a generous term.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 07:21 |
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Given the "Sith lord" bullshit and the fact that the word "dark" is right in their group's name, that was probably the idea. He probably thinks that he's a twisted intellectual anti-hero or something equally juvenile. Man, nerd society as a whole is overdue for a subversive anything in which the hero is a 'boy-scout'-esque hero who's antagonists are edgy 'intellectuals' who try to do the whole shades-of-grey heroism but fail at staying out of the black. ...and Kingdom Come doesn't count.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 07:35 |
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Nerd society is due for a goddamn ball-destroying wedgie is what, and I'm the pink anime princess who's gonna deliver
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 08:28 |
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Ahahahaha, I just noticed that Roosh V is in that chart.
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I want to see every single one of these guys beaten to death in the street
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 11:49 |
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When I have their disembodied mindforks enslaved in my orbital coding farms, I will make sure to set aside a simulspace where they can be endlessly swirlied.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 12:03 |
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I'm much more familiar with the precursor to the Dark Enlightenment: the Harlem Renaissance. And, uhm, I'm sure Cab Calloway thinked a thought or two.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 12:06 |
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Antivehicular posted:Is there some story behind the name "Mencius Moldbug?" Why did this dude choose an Internet handle that sounds like something a second-rate Dickens imitator would reject for being too hamfistedly villainous? Mencius is an ancient conservative Confucian philosopher, famous, ironically, for defending human nature as originally good.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 12:42 |
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roberto bolano tried to warn us
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umalt posted:Man, nerd society as a whole is overdue for a subversive anything in which the hero is a 'boy-scout'-esque hero who's antagonists are edgy 'intellectuals' who try to do the whole shades-of-grey heroism but fail at staying out of the black. Gurren Lagann has a pretty funny arc where that exact thing happens. The protagonist's close friend and long-time ally betrays him because things are really grim and he needs to make the hard choices for the good of humanity! Needless to say it blows up in his face, he ends up endangers humanity even more and the protagonist bails everyone, including him, out by doing the right thing and refusing to give in to nihilism even when the world is baying for his blood. But yeah the ideology behind the whole grimdark trend in nerd fiction is really gross, I've seen a few things recently which have started to buck the trend, like X Men:DoFP, which paints a really lovely grim scenario but has the protagonists pull out a win (and a better future!) through pain, sacrifice and faith in each other so maybe there's there's hope yet.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 15:37 |
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I love when networks of pseudo-intellectuals descend into a cult. Don't know how much of this is true but funny to picture anyways. quote:
2014 nerds still scared of brown people.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 17:19 |
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Yeah that dude got told a bunch of horseshit whoever his source was. These people aren't the skull and bones society, or even really a coherent movement other than they are 1) various flavones of paleoconservative to wingnut futurist libertarian and 2). Complete dorks. They probably range from college kids who will hopefully grow out of this to dudes posting out of a trailer park in Couer d'Lane
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Harime Nui posted:Yeah that dude got told a bunch of horseshit whoever his source was. These people aren't the skull and bones society, or even really a coherent movement other than they are 1) various flavones of paleoconservative to wingnut futurist libertarian and 2). Complete dorks. They probably range from college kids who will hopefully grow out of this to dudes posting out of a trailer park in Couer d'Lane
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Ahahahaha, I just noticed that Roosh V is in that chart.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 18:15 |
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This is such a trap for teenagers. I thought being a libertarian was embarrassing, could you imagine looking back at your teenage years when you believed in "the dark enlightenment?"
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 18:31 |
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Crane Fist posted:I want to see every single one of these guys beaten to death in the street is emptyquoting allowed in PYF? Because I really want to emptyquote right now also who here thinks that these are all virgins in their mid-twenties
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 19:15 |
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This sounds like somebody drank a bunch of kerosene and then tried to invent a fantasy backstory for Farmville.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 19:20 |
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My semi-educated guess is these people run the gamut from probably trying-to-be-edgy postbacs to inveterate cranks who make their living off presentations and lectures for crazy people. Mencius Moldbug is a programmer in Silicon Valley and we just had a thread in GBS about a google programmer who started parroting this stuff on her twitter (only relevant at all b/c she had some vague connection to the Occupy Movement). I'd say the techno-feudalist nonsense if not the racialist or mens' rights stuff is popular with at least a handful of young professionals in the dotcom/tech industry, concentrated in Silicon Valley, and some of the WN/ethnonationalist online crowd has hitched their wagon to it cuz hey, these guys sound smart!
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 19:24 |
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I've got a theory. The racism/"human biodiversity"/white nationalism poo poo is what happens when a sheltered rich white nerd decides to move to a scary black neighborhood to save money for more games on steam (or when these far-right, sheltered morons come across all the plethora of racist garbage clogging the internet), the weird pseudo-social conservatism poo poo is what happens when you delve so deep into the manosphere that you get to the people advocating "patriarchy" and traditional marriage so that they can finally get laid, and the cartoonish anti-democracy poo poo stems from their libertarian love of a free market unfettered by the filthy, mininum-wage loving masses. Put a big ole dallop of nerd on top, and this is the hellish result. Thank you, internet.
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Grondoth posted:IQ is your real life Int stat line. Content: I Am A Fan Of Marital Rape posted:Marriage is a a contract between two people, in which love, of which sex is an implied and fundamental component, is promised to the other. This contract is vowed for life and is binding for life. "the law does frown upon it" Filippo Corridoni has a new favorite as of 20:30 on Jul 29, 2014 |
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Justine Tunney.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 21:06 |
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There can only be one.
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# ? Jul 29, 2014 21:13 |
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Shut up Wesley. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afhMMcAHlKw
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Filippo Corridoni posted:
quote:Welcome to the home of Free Northerner. Something tells me that this rapist-wannabe isn't the picture of
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Filippo Corridoni posted:
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