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UnoriginalMind posted:Indeed! My mistake. Oh god I sound like one of them. My experience as a fag is that the dudes who hate me the most are always the ones most invested in the idea of the man as the rugged provider and head of household. It comes from investing your personal worth into being a man, rather than anything you have personally achieved. People like Aurini are threatened by feminism precisely because it steals their one great accomplishment, being born with a penis.
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Oct 16, 2014 16:32
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quote:This entry was posted in Action, Institutions, Neoreactionary by Nyan Sandwich. Bookmark the permalink.
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Oct 20, 2014 04:38
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Dean of Swing posted:Nails Aurini. But what is Justine getting out of all of this? She might just be a lovely person.
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Oct 23, 2014 15:01
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Stottie Kyek posted:He should have a look at Ancient African Kingdoms, For Kids. Lots of information, pitched at his level of understanding. It's always been amazing to me how much the idea of "darkest Africa", as in a land of savages without history, took hold of people considering that the Berlin conference was in 1884 and states like Dahomey and the Asante kingdom are only overtaken by the colonial powers in the late 1890s/early 1900's. It's not like these times are lost in the misty depths of history, there's loving photo evidence of complex societies available on the internet right now. Political Whores has a new favorite as of 14:59 on Nov 3, 2014 |
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Nov 3, 2014 14:48
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Jack Gladney posted:If your goal is to educate people outside of Canada, you're more of an insider than probably 95% of the thread. Canada is quite a bit better than the US when it comes to xenophobia, even our conservatives have have strong representation in immigrant communities. But racism against natives is unbelievable. I don't know if anybody outside the US really pays attention, but violence against aboriginal women is such a massive problem in Canada that the UN has criticized us for it.  Our government has of course reacted by defending our stellar human rights record and denying that a problem even exists. Seriously there are like 700 unsolved disappearances and murders still open right now that the RCMP literally gives no fucks about. It's just one of the ways that our collective racism is staggeringly obvious with even a cursory examination of the lives of aboriginal people in Canada.
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Nov 7, 2014 02:37
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bartlebyshop posted:Behold. What exactly is an excellent technical understanding of fairy tales?
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Nov 23, 2014 05:17
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uber_stoat posted:We alone, the vanguard of this new Dark Enlightenment, are strong enough to face these Dark truths: the blacks are stupid and women should shut up and do what we tell them. Also, no homos.
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Nov 25, 2014 20:38
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None. This guy's been around for a while. It's a strange combination of worship of classicism combined with a bizarre mishmash of Nordic identities that run the gamut from Vikings to the HRE. This is despite the fact that many of the things he identifies with are mutually exclusive and often come from cultures who considered each others barbarians/heretics/evil. Basically bowing down at the altar of the western white male (no homo).
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Dec 9, 2014 04:58
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The Time Dissolver posted:Is it wrong that I find it surprising there's not a vocal libertarian segment of trans people (at least, not that I know)? This isn't a sensitive way to put it, but if I was looking to take my life into my own hands in a really hardcore way, changing gender might come to mind. That's because Trans people by and large, having often been persecuted and attacked for who they are by the majority, understand the degree to which the individualist notion of society espoused by libertarians is a loving joke that would get them killed. The only reason gender and sexual minorities even have the status they do is because they successfully leveraged the state to ram it down the throats of bigots, and that's still very early in development for trans people. Have you read Hoppe? He basically sanctions micronations purging gay people for the public good. It's like asking why libertarianism is overwhelmingly male and white. Only the majority is ever isolated from reality enough to produce a large contingent of deluded to believe this poo poo. I mean I guess LGBT people could try to band together to purge all the straight people, but that leaves anybody born outside the enclave sort of stuck. E: there are of course, always exceptions to the rule, like Justine Tunney Political Whores has a new favorite as of 14:28 on Dec 18, 2014 |
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Dec 18, 2014 14:25
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System Metternich posted:Nah, if anything they're more like birthers. Basically they sprang from the traditionalist wing of the Church that saw the reforms of the Second Vatican Council (1962-65) as heretical, but unlike those traditionalists led by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre who simply started doing their own thing regardless of what Rome was saying, they didn't manage to reconcile their reactionary views with the idea of the Church as flawless and unchanging. They explained that discrepancy away with claiming that all Popes beginning with either John XXIII or Paul VI were heretics and therefore couldn't have been rightful popes, following that all bishops and cardinals appointed by them couldn't have been legitimate as well. Some claim that in the 1958 conclave the Italian cardinal Giuseppe Siri had actually been elected, but his election had been suppressed by the John XXIII faction instead - those are called "sedeimpeditists", as they claim that the Holy See is not truly vacant, but that there's a secret hierarchy of clergy preparing for the day when they finally can elect another rightful successor to Siri (whom they call Gregory XVII). And lastly there are the conclavists, who did the logical step and elected themselves pope with the Palmarian Catholic Church (look them up on Youtube!) being the best known. That sounds more like twelver Shi'ism actually.
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Jan 28, 2015 18:49
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The Vosgian Beast posted:My goal with neoreaction is to form an ideology in which rightest is tightest. The perfect maelstrom of DUnning-Kruger pseudoscience and just plain insane oxymorons like Anrochopapism is making my brain bleed.
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Feb 14, 2015 17:24
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Lol. They were going to let him present his programming language. Maybe the problem is that this conference is terrible.
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Jun 12, 2015 15:27
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bartlebyshop posted:It's a relatively well known thing in the cryonics community (Hostile Wife Syndrome). Woman is married to seemingly normal dude, discovers he wants to set tens of thousands of dollars on fire, is understandably upset. So the selfishness thing is really just the wife calling them out on spending the family's life savings on a stupid delusion quest to cheat death.
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Jun 14, 2015 03:32
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TetsuoTW posted:Also by the time your death is certified you're loving dead. If they were more honest with themselves they would realize they know this poo poo isn't any more effective than storing their organs in canopic jars for use in the next life, and that's why they don't just freeze themselves right now.
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Jun 14, 2015 06:56
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divabot posted:I have a copy of Superfreakonomics because I got it for Christmas from a loved one desperate to find something they could actually get me for a present. It's the same market Glibwell targets. Jesus christ, I knew that Gladwell was a shilling piece of poo poo, but that revisionist civil rigths history stuff makes him as bad as any of the people in here.
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Jul 7, 2015 01:17
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quote:I would prefer to discourage that kind of thing rather than start a toxoplasma of rage thing. What the hell is this supposed to mean? He thinks people are angry at him because of a protozoic infection?
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Jul 13, 2015 05:47
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Memetics: the pseudoscience that lets you pretend your opponents are possessed by evil space viruses But let me guess, they aren't subject to evil memes, they're perfectly rational. I wonder if I can get to OM 5 and fly if I purge myself of negative memes.
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Jul 13, 2015 05:54
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Wales Grey posted:Basically this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE3j_RHkqJc, but with a million more words wrapped around it. One of the worst things Dawkins ever did was hypothesize about meme evolution. I understand why it's an interesting concept to think about, but anybody calling memes "thought-germs" has taken an already tenuous metaphor and just loving run that poo poo into the ground. Awful, awful science.
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Jul 13, 2015 11:57
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J_RBG posted:Not to mention that the 'meme' was theorised in various forms pretty consistently pre-Dawkins. He's late to a party he didn't even know existed. And it's been put it in far less dodgy terms than strictly Darwinian evolution. So it's no surprise SSC uses it! But yeah, semiotics is a field that's been around for a lot longer than The Selfish Gene has.
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Jul 13, 2015 12:06
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Cingulate posted:Comment sections are universally awful. I am sure if somebody put the Philosophical Investigations online and gave them a comments option, somebody would start denying the Holocaust in all but 30 seconds time. It's one of the most meaningless noise-producing things you can do on the internet. I sort of wonder why websites even bother including it any more.
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Jul 27, 2015 11:55
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I can't remember where I read it, but supposedly the inspiration for the orcs was watching coal miners come up out of the ground, which is why they're twisted version of humans perverted by Sauron. The dwarves are explicitly Jews though, that is how Tolkien though of them, as good people who were a little too covetous and good at making things.
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Aug 11, 2015 12:18
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Marcuse is an actual leftist, but they're just employing him as a club to beat other leftists with. They've also obviously never read A Critique of Pure Tolerance because the Marcuse essay in that argues for intolerance of the Right and intolerance of any opposition to socialism, up to and including revolution and violent purges of right wing dissenters. Political Whores has a new favorite as of 06:14 on Aug 15, 2015 |
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Aug 14, 2015 16:47
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Woolie Wool posted:That's the point, they think all leftists want to kill all conservatives and institute a dictatorship. They already project themselves onto their enemies, Marcuse's essay gives them something to brandish while screaming "SEE? SEE?" That's fine because I tend to agree with Marcuse, insofar as I would have no problem using violence to prevent a reactionary regime from taking power.
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Aug 14, 2015 18:41
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Cingulate posted:I'd love to be a contrarian here and defend evolutionary psychology, but it's really mostly pretty bad. For some reason, it's attracting "race realists", sexists etc., and everyone doing research on the same questions who's not one of these doesn't work under the label. At an abstract (or possibly....META??  ) level there idea that human psychology is influenced by evolution has obvious merit. Unfortunately I think the amount of baggage society has with appeals to nature fucks things up and gives cover for racism and sexism to pass as science. Way too much seems to be guys attempting to justify why their preference in women or their stereotypical beliefs on race are actually not just cultural. The biggest thing is just-so theorizing about some mythologized ancestor, with no direct evidence linking any supposedly observed pattern (in a group of us college students) to any sort of documented difference in genetics. Or equating gender differences to some made up bullshit analogy to wolf packs instead of even at least apes or something. Political Whores has a new favorite as of 12:52 on Aug 21, 2015 |
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Aug 21, 2015 12:47
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Oh god, for a second I thought I was in D&D.
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Aug 21, 2015 21:30
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Cingulate posted:IMO everyone who conceptualises sex as a transfer of a good from the vagina owner to the penis owner this confidently deservers the consequences. 100% true. Gee I wonder why this dude can't get laid.
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Aug 23, 2015 17:47
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Even in gaming I don't think that the majority of people who play video games have the fanatical devotion to misogyny that characterizes gamergate. It's easy to assume that it comes from being socially isolated/maladjusted but it's not like that's a requirement for a group of blue collar misogynists or rear end in a top hat Christian bigots. They're just Freeper types who read sci-fi.
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Aug 24, 2015 01:46
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Night10194 posted:What was Italian Futurism? Basically the artistic part of Fascism. In truth they were more like concurrent movements and the futurists eventually fell into disfavour and got purged. E: and yes I agree with Tiberius Thyben that a lot of this echoes the same kind of masculinism and violence that the futurists loved a lot.
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Aug 24, 2015 03:45
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I highly doubt that the humanities is what is lacking from engineers to make them overall less terrible human beings. I would say more that if you are educated in a system where your peers are people of roughly your socioeconomic profile (class, religion, race in many cases, etc.) and then end up in a field dominated by men and with an institutional culture that favours misogynistic narratives you aren't going to have to much introspection about the subjective nature of your experience of society/reality, which is critical to self-awareness. The whole conspiratorial narrative of STEM being emphasized to teach people compliance is also one of those things only a humanities major up their own rear end could say. The vast majority of people don't have a university humanities education and reading hamlet and listening to some biased version of history in high school was never what moved people to protest/revolt anyhways. Besides, STEM people get paid well for their role in producing profit. They aren't compliant sheep, they're the petite-bourgeoisie, who look to emulate the thoughts and trappings of their betters as a foundation of their identity. Even the ones that aren't terrible still have all the terrible pro-capitalist bullshit about self-made men and entrepreneurship and governments sucking (event he author of the Vox article) stuck in their brains, and they don't have the self-awareness to ever question whether any of these foundational ideas they have are wrong.
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Aug 28, 2015 03:36
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Jack Gladney posted:[1] Citation Needed I've never seen anything concrete that states the humanities makes people more empathetic, and I've met plenty of conservatives and milquetoast libertarians (with horrible opinions only expressed once they feel secure enough to say them in your presence) in my own time in university.
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Aug 28, 2015 04:34
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MizPiz posted:You're argument is basically that nothing less than a modular "make people good" lesson plan is the only way to prevent people from becoming egotistical assholes with a terrible worldview. This is not only impossible, it's laughable to even think it's something that can be solved. As Jack Gladney alluded to, Humanities teaches you that humans are complex beings that can't (and shouldn't) be treated like a car engines with definable problems that can be "solved" using a step-by-step solution. You're right that teaching it won't automatically make people into good human beings, but, as the quote you've been using ad nauseam says, it's the best solution since it exposes kids to cultures and ideas they wouldn't otherwise know about and shows that there isn't a magic cure for the issues plaguing humanity. I think forcing integration would probably work better. Don't let people shield their children in bubbles. It will matter a whole lot more than whatever mediocre introduction to politics and history an elementary or high school teacher can provide. Especially when it comes to empathy for people lower on the economic totem pole, for which I find humanities students aren't much better than business school assholes about. E; Quote is not edit.
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Aug 28, 2015 04:36
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What I don't get is the investment. Take steampunk for example. I remember when it was first coming into vogue and thinking "oh, like Jules Verne, I can see why you might want to try that as a visual style in something". But the investment people put into play acting a faux Victorian world that makes no sense and never existed anyway is insane. It goes beyond the saddest bounds of escapism, and it is so devoid of substance or original thought that I can't understand what draws people so much. Like Woolie Wool says, the properties that hold nerds most are those that are old enough and dead enough that any sort of commentary or social/philosophical critique can be easily removed, leaving them only shallow signifiers and mountains of irrelevant facts to learn and obsess over.
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Sep 10, 2015 02:47
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Was it in this thread that people were talking about E.O. Wilson? What terrible ideas does he have? Because I remember reading some of Consilience and I just came across it packing my books. I"m wondering if I skipped or otherwise missed something really terrible in it.
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Sep 14, 2015 03:37
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The reason I asked about E.O. Wilson, btw, is because I do remember that in Concilience he dedicates a small part of it to "sociobiology", which he was very influential in creating as a field. His idea is that human culture and what we call human "nature" must arise at least partially from genetics, but in the book he's focused much more on things like facial expressions being shared across cultures, or social gregarity and cooperation, or Pinker's stuff about learning a spoken language being in built. Things we take for granted as ways people work, but would seem to have a basis in some common heritage of the species. Which always seemed to me like really the only place evopsych might be able to actually function as a discipline. But he also makes some pretty culturally imperialist statements in the sense that he sort of chides anthropology for demanding that cultures not be ranked according to fitness, which I found messed up even when I read it years ago. My thinking now is that he's a standard white guy academic pontificating about things outside of his field. He doesn't seem like an advocate of HBD or scientific racism in that sense, more someone who's naive about what some of the things his colleagues are saying really means.
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Sep 14, 2015 12:00
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TetsuoTW posted:I think he means more the "language instinct" than universal grammar. Yeah that's what I was referencing.
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Sep 14, 2015 14:40
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Woolie Wool posted:Sociobiology is the predecessor to evolutionary psychology, so his entire field is discredited. E.O. Wilson is a biologist specialising in insects (especially ants) and is pretty well respected in that area and in biodiversity reaearch/ecosystem conservation. "Sociobiology" was a side thing he did, part of his broader goal of trying to unify the humanities with the hard sciences. Like said, my problem with this stuff is i don't think it's entirely without merit. Humans definitely have some genetic basis for our behavior. One of the things the Wilson wrote we should enquire into as a subject is what exactly is the reason humans tell stories and make art. Why does every society in earth do these? Why does every society have rituals? What was the evolutionary reason we started doing it? Did it contribute to our developing intelligence? They just discovered a ritual grave in South Africa from a proto-human ape species dating back at least 2 million years. So it's something we developed before we evolved into modern humans. That's amazing when you think about it, and is worth enquiring into. Instead it's always "hey let's prove 19th century race and gender stereotypes are real"
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Sep 14, 2015 16:32
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Does anyone have that comic talking about the rapture of the nerds and laying out why these people are terrible. I can't find it. Also, lol at "highly educated"
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Sep 19, 2015 03:35
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Syd Midnight posted:I used to really hate that stupid red/blue pill analogy until I got curious and went digging for the extended Matrix canon. The movies were only supposed the be the prequel, with the whole story unfolding over years in various comics, animes, books, games, etc etc. Turns out the Machines created the red pill and Zion as a kind of a philosophy cesspool, so all of the most dangerous "gently caress You, Dad" would voluntarily leave society and go be miserable somewhere else. Every century or so the machines would kill them all off and start over again like emptying a cultural septic tank, because those people are what kept loving up all the Matrixes and killing everyone else no matter how good their world already was. When the Matrix franchise folded, only the MMO survived long enough to get to the "Zion are bad guys" plot reveal. Its wiki is still around, if you're bored enough you can dig through it and find the official answers to all the plot holes in the movies. Um I guess people don't remember it but that's explicitly what the third movie has the Architect say. And it's part of the first movie that the Matrix is only as lovely as the real world because rear end in a top hat humans wouldn't believe or want to live in a perfect one. And in the Animatrix it's explicitly the fault of the humans over and over again that the war happened in the first place. There are definitely trans metaphors in the Matrix too, but especially the idea of the agents where any person in society could turn on you if you reveal what your are to them, but the overarching theme is pretty clear: it's our own fault that the world is this lovely, not some external evil "machine" or "Cathedral" that controls everybody but the special wunderkind sociopaths. There's a reason all the Zion people dress like the "trenchcoat mafia", they're literally supposed to look like the Columbine killers. 
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Sep 22, 2015 04:29
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Wow really? Prescient. I always thought it was the other way around. In any case, the red pill was never supposed to be good. I was 11 when the movie came out so I didn't see it till years later, I always thought the fact that the Zion people were supposed to be like violent sociopaths seemed obvious. E: I'm actually flabbergasted by this. Black trenchcoat clad people walk in with guns and murders tons of innocents they see as enemies. How could that not be a metaphor for a spree killer? How could Columbine come afterwards (rhetorically)? VVV Possible thought I thought the Trench-coat Mafia was a thing longer than just the month before the shooting. I guess Dark City had the trenchcoats and sun glasses way before so maybe it was that? Political Whores has a new favorite as of 05:18 on Sep 22, 2015 |
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Sep 22, 2015 05:02
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