MizPiz posted:

MC Nietzche posted:

God these losers have such a lovely grasp of history. Virginity was prized, sure, but there were definitely places where having child, even one out of wedlock, could increase your marital value (not among the nobility, but among the serfs) because it proved you could have a child and live. In a world where childbirth was hugely fatal one could see why that might be.

Literally The Worst posted:

You know what you're right I'm sure this time when we gently caress around with vital parts of the ecosystem it'll be different

Mineaiki posted:

Also lol at Estonia being on that map. They had a major problem after the fall of the USSR deciding if they were even a real people or not.

SolTerrasa posted:

Sure, here goes.

Rush Limbo posted:

You haven't been keeping up with UK news have you?

Social Security is being gutted and no longer actually provides a safety net seeing as how it can be cut for things like attending your own disability assessment because if you're capable of getting there, you're capable of getting a job etc.

The NHS is also similarly being hosed and there is probably going to be a massive brain drain of doctors thanks to new contracts being forced on them, not to mention funding being cut to LHAs and general starve the beast tactics.

Worker protections and minimum wage are no longer a problem because zero hour contracts, of which a huge amount of jobs now use, skirts these by hiring an employee to be an entirely at-will consultant who isn't even guaranteed a minimum amount of hours, let alone anything approaching protection.

And the unions haven't been as strong as they should be since Thatcher and anti union laws were passed, such as the banning of sympathy striking.

You seem to be viewing the UK with a sort of post war idealism, which coincidentally is how a lot of Tories view it.

MC Nietzche posted:

It comes from analysis of what fascist states actually did as opposed to what they would say they'd do. That is they engage in aggressive expansion and redirect stolen capital back to the center for the profit of the chosen people. Italy tried to colonize Ethiopia, Germany expanded eastward and westward. Empire building is a capitalist enterprise.

Simply because the state did redirect some resources to benefit the people through services does not negate the fundamentally bourgeois and capitalist trappings of fascism.

Baron Corbyn posted:

For what it's worth Coudenhove-Kalergi wasn't a racist and wasn't suggesting this was a bad thing. His ultimate goal was creating a racially heterogenous United States of Europe including North Africa. He was also one of the major critics of antisemitism in 1930s Europe.

The Vosgian Beast posted:

So this is one of those cases of a reacto pulling out a quote without understanding what it means?

Baron Corbyn posted:

Yeah, I got that. Some of the replies in this thread seemed to imply they thought Coudenhove-Kalergi was describing a bad scenario.

Annointed posted:

Not empty quoting, actually I want to add my own two cents of "c'mon fellow goons stop calling the Trump supporters racist you're just making things worse for me the pale faced goon."

Really dudes? Are you really loving going that progressive apologetic route? What's next? I'm supposed to hold hands and sing kumbaya with people who if this election was done in the 1960's -70's would have salivated to turn my home country into a blazing inferno? I'm the loving bad guy for not wanting to consolidate with people who treat my ethnicity as either a beat stick against other minorities one moment and then a menace at their own convenience huh?

How about instead we don't compromise with people that want nothing less than to oppress/enslave/genocide minorities?

Regarde Aduck posted:

You don't "win" without hitting someone dumbass. How the gently caress do you think you can win when the enemy wants to genocide large portions of the population. We're talking about nazis. You god drat idiot.

Somfin posted:

How is Fox News covering this stuff, anyway? Because I'm guessing it produces viewpoints exactly like this.

ate all the Oreos posted:

Property destruction is not the same thing as violence against a person, and while I can't really see myself being okay with doing it personally I can totally see how someone can view burning a car as a preferable alternative to "just let the fash do whatever they want, from the street level all the way up to the president, while telling them sternly that they're mean jerks and clucking your tongue at them"

Serious semi-related question: are you at all aware of the fact that antifa are currently active in fighting ISIS in an actual literal war zone?

Magnusth posted:

Just because your spine is the consistency of jelly doesn't mean ours had to be.

Alao, lol at "looter brothers"