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pookel posted:That doesn't really explain a link to trans people, though? Although I can see how a more libertarian-minded philosophy might appeal to a right-wing douchebag whose personal life conflicted with more traditionalist (i.e. anti-LGBT) right-wing views. It's not even so much that it appeals as it's pretty much the only space for them. Traditionally conservative places were/are pretty hostile to anyone LGTB, and trans/queer spaces are overwhelmingly liberal. The queer teen forum I was involved in as a teen could count on a biannual flounce from someone whining about how PC everyone was and that like-minded fellows should move to a chan with them where they'd be free to discuss whatever  got them in trouble.
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Where's that Dril tweet about how there's no difference between good and evil when you need it? "I'm going to side with the non-violent protestors" is pretty meaningless if you aren't out there getting a firehose to the face yourself.
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Aug 24, 2017 10:11
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Puppy Time posted:I'm the assumption that a translady would have surgery on everything but the genitals That's actually not that uncommon. SRS is expensive and waiting lists are hella long because there are far less surgeons performing that procedure than there are doing boob jobs. There are also plenty of people that opt to go with what hormones replacement gets them, or get top surgery and don't want/can't go under the needle again for bottom. Of course it's only in the deranged minds of people who can't see transness as something other than a sexual perversion where those kinds of decisions are warped into some deliberate choice to entrap men and lesbians. Trans bodies: not a finger trap for your sexual identity.
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Sep 28, 2017 16:19
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Puppy Time posted:My point is more that this is referring to a hand-picked translady who presumably has access to all this stuff, "surgeried to porn standards," but apparently while having all this alteration done, decided, "Well, I don't REALLY want a vagina that much." I think the point of confusion is that "surgeried to porn standards" isn't necessarily all that much surgery. Hormone therapy, laser hair removal, and a boob job can make radical changes for people, and all of those are far more accessible than SRS. TERFs aren't making up trans women with perfect porn-bodies but no bottom surgery; they're just laughably exaggerating how much surgery it can take to make a trans woman look like that.
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Sep 28, 2017 23:26
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Relevant Tangent posted:Actually it's because the dudes she's sleeping with love chicks with dicks. I can give you the exact quote but what it boils down to is MtFs are sexier to dudes than "real women" for reasons that the (insane) author takes to be so elementary she doesn't ever bother providing them. I've gotten this from more verbose TERFs and it's basically that because the beauty ideal for a woman (represented by porn stars) is unrealistic and only achievable by surgery, trans women who have to get surgery to be women just go ahead and make the result that ideal; men are then so attracted to that ideal that genitals are irrelevant. Extra crazy version: trans women are just men who so fetishize that ideal woman's body, that they seek to become it so they can constantly be sexually stimulated by their own bodies.
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Sep 29, 2017 00:33
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Remember that Less Wrong blogger who went off about how we were sure to program AIs wrong and doom the human race if we kept treating transwomen as women instead of men with auto-gynephilia I want this guy to rewrite this entire essay but with a different form of science denial every week. quote:With social reality placing such tight constraints on perception of actual reality, our chances of developing the advanced epistemology needed to rise to the occasion of solving the alignment problem seem slim at best. (If we can't put our weight down on the right answer to a really easy scientific question like rising sea levels and increasing global temperatures—which lots of people just notice without having to do careful research—then what hope do we have for hard problems?)
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Sep 29, 2017 19:05
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Hate Fibration posted:What the hell is a quasibisexual? The 1.5/2.5 on the Kinsey scale? Gotta love a so-called expert who is so misogynistic that his lifelong study of transsexualism leaves him questioning whether trans man really exist. Here's my multiple essays on the complicated sexual natures of men who desire to be women, but as for those women desiring to be men? Guess they're just lesbos, if they exist at all.
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Sep 30, 2017 07:18
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:TERFs denying the existence of trans men isn't even unusual. The cornerstone of their dogma is "Trans women happen because men want to transition to be women so they can infiltrate female spaces!" Ha, no us gay trans men are just deluded straight women with an incredibly toxic form of Stockholm syndrome where we feel the only way to truly be loved and accepted by the patriarchy is to become men who are loved by other men. For which I fall down an laugh because men are consistently awful to each other.
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Sep 30, 2017 17:05
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Relevant Tangent posted:Makes sense though, engineers are early adopters of really terrible ideas. Management aren't dumb enough to send emails talking about Someone has never gotten drunk with HR employees.
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Oct 17, 2017 13:30
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The Vosgian Beast posted:https://thebaffler.com/salvos/degrasse-tyson-kriss-atheists Wait, so the problem with modern atheists is that the world sucks and since atheists are realists then they're embracing this lovely world instead of wanting to change it? Is that the argument going on here?
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Oct 17, 2017 18:36
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TinTower posted:Fiver says that he finds another writing gig before the year's out. I'm glad he's outed as a predator because that means people can take steps to avoid and defend against him.
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Oct 18, 2017 21:24
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Relevant Tangent posted:HR is on the downlow always the department with the most drama, engineering is the department with the most public drama. Because all engineers think of themselves as smart, capable people, any serious disagreements over how things ought to be done inside (or God forbid) outside the department lead to at least two deeply proud people not-giving-an-inch at one another as hard as possible. HR dude might be loving half the office, but he keeps it quiet. I've never worked a white collar job, so I have no idea but I've always presumed that engineering is more likely to select for people that refuse to let management or HR mitigate interpersonal conflicts because they just reject the idea that feelings have any place in the workplace; they are responding the way they are out of rational thought and practicality!
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Oct 19, 2017 16:44
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Every time PUAs write about having sex, it always sounds like they're secretly asexual and find it disgusting, but don't want to let other people know It's the fanfic/Penthouse letter desire to find some novel way to describe sex though words, combined with the need to show your utter contempt for what you're loving above all else.
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Nov 3, 2017 23:45
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Somfin posted:I was aiming for the other direction in what I said. Like, they'll keep trying and failing, but they'll be interacting with people, and eventually they'll grow as humans, drop the PUA poo poo, and start fuckin'. Sorry if that didn't come across. I guess being into PUA means you're more likely to leave the house and talk to people outside the echo chamber, which increases your chances of getting shaken out of it. Actual PUA methods don't help, though. They don't promote any real interaction; just a script to follow while scanning for a signal to progress to the next stage or a game over, try again. I guess it depends on realizing that this poo poo isn't working because it's a scam, or believing it's a conspiracy against you and descending further into the MRA bullshit.
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Nov 4, 2017 05:00
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Somfin posted:I know, but they also teach people to get the gently caress out of the house and try to talk to literally anyone else. Which, given that they're in the same sphere as incels, is at least crashing them face-first into the fact that women are people who have opinions. They might take a few (e: dozen) tries to get there, but I have a firm conviction in the weakness of PUA compared to the strength of actual human interaction. Yeah, if the comparison is with the rest of the manosphere, than PUA is definitely the best category because it's the one most likely to push you away from a screen and out in the world to meet real people. It probably just comes down to whether you got into that stuff because you want to meet women and get laid above all else, or because you're such a dedicated misogynist that you don't really enjoy sex for it's own sake, just the opportunity to dominate/denigrate a woman by putting your dick in her. I'd guess that the former makes up most of the actual PUAs out there, but the latter is more vocal.
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Nov 4, 2017 17:40
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DarklyDreaming posted:If The Ghost Map taught me anything it's that we figured out "Don't poo poo Where You Eat" less than a hundred years ago We figured it out multiple times over history and then forgot it again and had to relearn it all over again. Mostly because we couldn't really nail down why it was so bad until germ theory and all that.
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Nov 18, 2017 20:55
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BioEnchanted posted:Although it is kind of amazing that we kept having to relearn that, as opposed to keeping it going because "Maybe I don't want to eat a whole meal in a room that smells like my own rear end? Does that make me weird? Am I just being fussy?" It's do to a combination of a lot of interesting factors, from the changing value of human excrement to how to effectively deal with the combined sewage of a large city before modern plumbing. But a lot of people just lived in really gross environments because it was normalized. Supposedly Cortes arrived in Tenochtitlan and marveled to a see a city as large as any in Europe that didn't have poo poo running through the streets.
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Nov 18, 2017 21:45
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Some kind of singularity-based church? Is this a new thing?
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Nov 22, 2017 02:46
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divabot posted:They tend to quietly disappear from the subculture and do actually useful things. This is a repeated pattern in the LessWrong subculture and transhumanism in general. This is the most optimistic thing to come out of this entire thread.
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Nov 24, 2017 22:02
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I make no presumptions about that model because she's just a person doing a job. But attractive young women in over-sized glasses leaning up against a giant packman projection feel like the sophisticated version of scam letters deliberately including grammatical errors because it weeds out people who are less likely to fall for the scam.
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Jan 15, 2018 22:48
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Grenrow posted:It's really creepy for them to have come up with this in the first place, but it's even worse that she's apparently adopted it herself. I get that playing a cargo cult academic for libertarians is a good grift, but there's no need to commit to indulging their weirdest impulses. I don't think there are actually that many true sociopaths in the world capable of pandering to a certain group they already sympathize with, getting a lot of negative attention from people outside/against it, and not growing to empathize more and more with the group as a result.
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Feb 22, 2018 09:54
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stab stabby posted:Edit: Wait, so the lady they hired to try to figure out how to make EA less rapey and gross killed herself because of EA/rationality being rapey and gross. That ... really doesn't say good things, does it. The impression I got (and I could be wrong) was that she didn't have a lot of experience addressing sexual assault and harassment in workplaces or communities, stepping into the job only because she noticed a pattern in the EA community and started being vocal about the problem. If that's the case then I could see her being deeply, fundamentally blindsided by the obstruction and total lack of interest so many people had in trying to change anything. We all learn about rape early on; it's coming to realize that it an entire culture that persists almost entirely because of enablers more than offenders that leads you to staring at the walls for a while in utter despair.
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Jun 21, 2018 03:13
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:I had a hard time reading that post because the lady was super far down the rabbit hole of rationalist woo woo poo poo and talking about being targeted based on facial structure and pheromones, so I ended up skimming it and the main takeaway imo is that rationalist dudes should be murdered She had this brand new idea for someone big and strong who would protect her from predators and she would give them sex in return. Patriarchy from first principles.
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Jun 24, 2018 17:11
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ate all the Oreos posted:Literally all of the transhumanists I know of that aren't awful shitbags are transwomen who just want a dang sexy girl robot body already More than once in trans spaces I've come across people wondering why transhumanists have such a bad reputation and it's entirely because their image of a transhumanist is a gender-queer person wanting cool robot bodies and cyberpunk body mods.
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Jun 27, 2018 03:04
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NikkolasKing posted:I know some people think zombie apocalypse fiction is inherently right wing because the government collapses and only the one guy who stocked up on machineguns survives thus "proving them all wrong" but wasn't Romero's stuff all anti-capitalism? As other people said, he didn't really intend it to be and when he deliberately tried to put that message in, it flopped. Really zombies as survivalist narratives are just one kind of zombie fiction; it's a broader genre than that, and there are plenty of works that use zombies to critique consumption, authoritarianism, or failure to act collectively.
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mysterious frankie posted:What the gently caress is Prager U? I only know them from crazy long youtube commercials about how Israel is good, or a black guy saying that racism is over and that other black people who talk about it are whiners... wait, I think I just accidentally contexted myself a good enough answer. It's just a bunch of videos some right wing pundit called Prager puts out to counter the evil liberalism of actual education.
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