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I had heard of Alex  "Kirkegaard" before, and vaguely remembered him as some bugfuck insane MLG PRO COMPETITIVE gamer with an obnoxiously obtuse, pseudo-philosophical writing style, who made notorious piece of poo poo David Sirlin (noted for talking about how a grown man had the right to force a small girl off an arcade machine and make her cry because he was better at fighting games than she was) look sane. And it turns out he's a Nazi too!UnoriginalMind posted:Similarly, Alexander Pushkin, who is considered to be the greatest Russian poet of all time if not the greatest Russian writer. Wikipedia says his great-grandfather was brought over from Africa, so that makes him 1/4 of African descent, right? I never read him, but a professor of mine specialized in his work and mentioned that his heritage was pretty well known and people often made fun of his lips. In response, he dueled people all the time. E: Aurini is such a jackass, I hope he marries the Nordic uberfrau of his dreams just so he can be cucked by a black Muslim lesbian with whom said uberfrau will run off, shattering his fake masculinity just at the moment where he thinks he has perfected it. Everything he desires should be crushed in front of his eyes. E: and then his ex-wife becomes a communist. murphyslaw posted:Aurini calling himself Sargon of Akkad  Hmm Woolie, you find Anita Sarkeesian entertaining, maybe you would like to hear a reactionary manchild complain about what a wicked person Anita Sarkeesian is? 
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a Dork Enlightenment stinker posted:I believe many women have a constant low-level hatred of men at a conscious or subconscious level and their narcissistic quest for entitlement and significance begrudges him any pursuit that isn't going to lead directly to producing, providing, protecting, and problem solving for her 
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Does anyone have any thoughts on this article comparing and contrasting the rationalist movement, libertarians, and the Dork Enlightenment? The basic thesis seems to be that all three are forms of anti-political politics created because nerds are too  to understand, accept, or do politics so they want to replace politics with mechanistic systems following rigid rule systems (respectively, logic, the free market, and  , distorted and fetishized into forms completely divorced from reality). I think he gives them way too much slack, though. Someone like Moldbug isn't really very smart, he is a stupid person's idea of what smart people write like.
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Jack Gladney posted:It seems plausible, though all those movements also grow out of a childish sense of entitlement that their adherents desperately try to rationalize away with dumb racism and evopsych about women not wanting to touch them or make eye contact. I still think neoreaction seems the odd one out considering how arbitrary and irrational fascism and other dictatorships are compared to republican forms of government but it's less about what fascism is than what neoreactionaries imagine it to be.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Think of all the people you could save with these idiots` organs. Severely ill people are a waste of the monarch's precious resources! It should be their organs that are harvested to save the posthuman job creators! 
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:I know people who think they're smart for writing some toys in brainfuck and who brag about it whenever weird languages come up, so yes. Do you think if Windows 95 were rewritten in brainfuck it would run any worse than the actual WIndows 95?
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divabot posted:While we're here, enjoy Moldbug's poetry.  You would think someone who jerks off to CLASSICAL EUROPEAN CULTURE would use a loving rhyme scheme or some recognizable meter. God drat the  is killing me, he just rambles on and on with no structure or rhythm.
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Jun 23, 2015 14:41
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Have there been any juicy Dork Enlightenment meltdowns over Obergefell v. Hodges?
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darthbob88 posted:The thing about this attitude that always gets me is that nobody ever suggests fixing people, they just leap towards killing or sterilizing them. You want more educated people in the world, and fewer stupid people? Why not try educating them? I mean, durr. But I suppose that might mean confronting certain notions about the justness of the world and one's own superiority within it. Can we start with people casually write off "broken" people here on SA? 
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The Romulans were always way cooler than the Vulcans, I would have liked to see more development of the Romulans (but not in a terrible No Star Trek Online doesn't count, it's an MMO so by definition every story and world thing it has is complete garbage designed to prop up the game systems
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I don't think he's "almost" a racist. He is a racist. Also a fascist sympathizer: Sam Harris posted:"When I search my heart, I discover that I want to keep the barbarians beyond the city walls just as much as my conservative neighbors do, and I recognize that sacrifices of my own freedom may be warranted for this purpose. I expect that epiphanies of this sort could well multiply in the coming years"
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Why doesn't this guy just drop the charade and embrace his inner fash? He hangs out around fascists, he kind of sort of criticizes but not really fascist thought all the time, he seems completely obsessed with these neoreaction dorks. Everyone already knows he's a goddamn fascist, he cam give it up now.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:There's a difference between smart and evil. Why are they mutually exclusive properties? Come to think of it the fact that brilliant people can also be utterly evil and do horrendous things was the #1 theme of the book series Yudkowsky wrote his obnoxious fanfic opus for and the whole uber-rationalist crowd seem not to have noticed.  E: it's not just a theme, the wand shop guy spells it out in plain English early in the very first book. E #2: gently caress you phone autocorrect Woolie Wool has a new favorite as of 22:55 on Jul 16, 2015 |
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Cingulate posted:"The intersection of libertarians and monarchists" is both 1. the perfect description of neoreaction, 2. an oxymoron. Someone did just that in the 1960s.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:I'm just reminded of this There was a time when if someone said "cuckold" I would have asked if it was 1880 and broken into my worst fake RP accent. A more innocent time.
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divabot posted:Good old James A. Donald writes a suitably neoreactionary smackdown of this indulgent nonsense. It's such a pity for his point that his third paragraph starts "In the course of watching more anime that I should ..." Whenever people talk about "masculinity" I want to ask, "what (sub)culture's idea of masculinity? When?"
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Cingulate posted:Okay, but why do you want an inane explanation regarding inborn sex/gender roles? The whole point of such a question is to short-circuit such an appeal by pointing out that masculinity is defined by culture and time.
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I think they should go live in the feudal cyber-papacy future of BattleTech, so they have to pay ComStar for their porn. ComStar's rates are about $1 in 1985 dollars...per byte. How's that enlightened sci-fi monarchy working out for ya? 
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Jul 22, 2015 03:33
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All people with that much privilege can wield the power of said privilege with their own words and actions. Every racist, no matter how seemingly powerless, is an agent of white supremacy, and the same for other forms of bigotry.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Honestly, it's somewhat weird to me that NRx has grown in popularity with singularitarians, because what the gently caress are IQ differences and traditional hierarchical structures going to matter when the nerdrapture happens and everyone is a space god? No, no, no. They get to be space gods, but you do not. And since your puny human mind and body are not good enough even for the most menial jobs in their space god society, you can entertain them or something until they get bored with you and kill you. I think that if nerd rapture actually happened (it won't), all the neoreactionaries would keep humans as guinea pigs in endless torture experiments, just to see what happens and watch them suffer. A thousand AMs inflicting pain on millions of humans, forever.
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Jack Gladney posted:And yet he's making a very clumsy cultural materialist argument about social organization. Reinventing Marxism to fight Marxism. 
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Jul 25, 2015 21:26
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Count Chocula posted:I just to be into transhumanism and cryogenics. It's just a nerd's way of dealing with the fear of death. Whatever happened to atheists just putting on their big boy pants and accepting the inevitability and finality of death? We're made of meat and we'll die. Even robot gods would eventually die (second law of thermodynamics), it would just take them longer.
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And where, exactly, is the energy for this simulation going to come from if the universe is near heat death? There is no "loophole" to that.
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Wow, this guy doesn't even indulge in the pseudo-intellectual rhetoric of people like Moldbug--he doesn't even seem to understand that "rhetoric" is even a thing that exists or that other people will judge him by the way he presents himself. Forget the rationalizations or romantic appeals, let's just say "fag faggy fag buttsex cocksucker cucked by niggers and JOOOOOOOOS" every other sentence. Although I suppose it's good that someone's exposing people like Moldbug for who they really are by restating neoreactionary talking points in a way that captures their inner ugliness with outer ugliness, but holy poo poo this is loving unreadable. quote:Now, this isn’t the first time a “conservative” has been put in the hot-seat by alt-right twitter. Notorious Brietbart Bottom-Boy Milo Yanniapolous (gently caress your greek name, I’ll spell it right when they fix their economy) was called out by Duck himself, along with the marginally less obviously homosexual Mike Cernovich. When called out for their rejection of ideas to the right of them, both simply politely stated that the ideas weren’t for them and didn’t bother with any moral signaling or soapboxing. That’s why, despite literally taking black dicks up his rear end, Milo is not a cuckservative. Likewise, despite putting his dick up Thai ladyboy rear end, Mike Cernovich is also not a cuckservative (and is even putting the cuckservatives on full blast right now!). Normally the less vitriolic “Conservakin” will do just fine here. Also, oh the irony in using prostitution and "cuck" metaphors to lambast the Republican Party and then turning around and endorsing someone as hypocritical, as dishonest, as nakedly self-serving and lacking in any coherent ideology behind plain FYGM as Donald Trump.
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Jul 28, 2015 06:11
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Stupidity that monumental does not come naturally, it requires years of study and diligent training.
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Pretty sure that's a parody.
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coyo7e posted:I'd like to push Charles Krauthammer into a wide, deep pool of thin concrete. Yes, because you should tilt the wheelchair so he falls into the concrete without the chair following him. Somebody else could use that chair. neonnoodle posted:Doesn't seem that different from Kurzweil... That's because the entire singularity movement is just Kurzweil fanfiction. Woolie Wool has a new favorite as of 14:51 on Aug 3, 2015 |
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Actual 1930s fascists got into power on the backs of people who were exactly like that.
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One thing to keep in mind about people like Scott Alexander is that "apoliticality" or the "mind-killer" nonsense is itself a political position, namely a reactionary one. "Apolitical" people are members of the in-group, comfortable in their privilege to ignore the problems of those less fortunate, or people in the oppressed class who, under immense pressure by their dominators, adopt reactionary ideas and self-victimize to ingratiate themselves with the oppressors and avoid being crushed. Scott Alexander is a "moderate" establishment conservative who, feeling his position on the totem pole threatened by the anger and activism of the oppressed below him, sees fascists as a bulwark to protect his own comfortable lifestyle. It is a devil's bargain because the fascists will inevitably sideline the conservatives if they get in power, and eliminate any who cause too much trouble, but conservatives, despite their reputation, are imprudent and short-sighted (as pointed out by political scientist Corey Robin) and will make this bargain every time. Which is not to say he might not have a touch of fash himself. People from the middle and upper middle classes who are normally "compassionate" conservatives can become fascist sympathizers or outright fascists very quickly if they feel encroached upon by "those people". EDIT: Earlier today, I posted this in the D&D version of this thread and it was ignored: Woolie Wool posted:What would be the status of artists in Neoreactionopia? These people seem to have a particular disregard for culture (a certain Göring quote comes to mind), even for our society that seems to go out of its way to be cruel to creative people every chance it gets. Perhaps I didn't put enough into it, so I'll elaborate.Neoreaction/Dork Enlightenment and their cousins over at LessWrong and satellites hate and fear culture. Certainly, they like their commodified pop culture, but more for its signifiers than for its content--many, perhaps the majority of these works have themes and messages that run directly against the sort of thought that underpins these movements. Of course, most obviously and inescapably, Eliezer Yudkowsky's nerd fanfic opus pretty much negates every premise, every theme, every moral of the actual Harry Potter book series, which features an antagonist whose name is French for "flight from death", whose all-consuming lust for immortal life has destroyed his ability to understand or experience even the slightest joy or human attachment. His followers believe in the inherent superiority of a group of people with natural, inherited gifts, even though the actual events of the story show that these people are in character no better, and frequently worse, than "Muggles" without these gifts. He is ultimately defeated by someone who has the natural talent but was raised by those who do not, and successfully integrates the his magical and Muggle sides into a mature identity, accepts his own mortality, and is willing to fight and die even for--especially for--the Muggles that according to Voldemort, he should see himself as innately superior to. Among these sorts of people (and, I suspect, by other fascist-minded movements of the past), culture and art are reduced to signifiers and bits of "cool" that they attach to themselves. Their own attempts at creating art end up as propagandistic self-promotion and/or fetishistic self-indulgence (see: Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality). Art that cannot be put through this reductive process and left recognizable becomes the tools of the Enemy, a vehicle through which the Cathedral intends to infect virile Neoreactionary rationality with emotions and postmodernism and liberalism and nasty icky girly ~feelings~ because their cargo-cult rationality is so unimaginative and narrow that it leaves them unable to comprehend what it actually is, what it actually means, or why someone might actually like it. It's kind of a tacit admission of the limits and weaknesses of their "rationality"--it falls apart if it tries to seriously examine culture, philosophy, or anything else that isn't some combination of data and facts. These all get shoved under the banner of the Cathedral, a massive part of the human experience that is now totally off-limits lest it infect you with its insidious mind viruses. It also means that their society would be, in my estimation, hellishly culturally sterile, endlessly recycling old signifiers without meaning in self-indulgent, flatulent spectacles created for the glorification of Neoreaction (see for comparison what happened to art, culture, and music under 1930s fascism). Artists, as inherently mysterious and threatening forces beyond the ken of the Neoreactionary nerd-kings, would be ruthlessly controlled and eliminated if they do anything the rulers feel threatened, insulted, or confused by. The masters of this realm would dream of their transhuman dreams coming to fruition so they can finally excise this troublesome culture from the human animal and we can exist as perfect Woolie Wool has a new favorite as of 00:14 on Aug 5, 2015 |
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Politics is the mind-killer don'cha know. (see my earlier post on "apolitical" people tending to be smugly self-satisfied reactionaries)
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Everyone who says "cultural Marxism" should be forced at gunpoint to read Das Kapital and give a book report on it.neonnoodle posted:In the glorious libertarian future, the ADA will be repealed and all discrimination will be legal as freedom of association. Even better, the private security companies can use their psychiatric diagnoses as evidence of violent criminal tendencies and detain them in 
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Remember that you will be mind-killed if you have any sort of actual values. However it is impossible not to have values if you have any awareness of other humans, so your values by default are those that maintain the societal status quo and prevent social change. And people wonder why nerdlords are so conservative.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Man, social justice warriors are the new Torquemadas of the world. The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Post Your Favorite or Request > The Dark Enlightenment: *writes a new post defending the Spanish Inquisition*
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Can someone explain "gray tribe" and "red tribe"?
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Going back through the LW mock thread, I wonder how on earth Yudkowsky would cope with a minor to moderate stroke or traumatic brain injury. Often in those cases you can regain most or even all of the function you had before the injury--but you have to work your rear end off, and sometimes learn how to do something over again, using a less optimal brain pathway that takes more effort. I'm imagining Yudkowsky, a couple of years after a stroke that most people would bounce back, more or less, from, sitting in a power chair in a nursing home drooling on himself because he was so unwilling to put any effort towards rehabilitation that he just declined, and is still declining, further and further.
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You would think someone so obsessed with brains would know about how they continuously "rewire" themselves around the way people use them whether they want them to or not. 
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That's what happens when you don't apply yourself and work hard at getting better after a stroke. I've seen that happen to somebody I know.
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Mr. Sunshine posted:Isn't the idea that you and your pals are above politics and ideology inherently reactionary? It assumes that your values and opinions are universal, and that any major divergence must be due to ideological blindness. That's what I said earlier. Left-wing columnist Chauncey DeVega very eloquently explained why the idea of being "above" politics is nonsense without even trying to: Chauncey DeVega posted:Humans are social beings. Humans invented politics in order to manage conflict and decide how resources should be distributed in society.
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Polybius91 posted:I've heard Lord of the Rings brought up in relation to DE types before. How exactly does it fit in? I mean, I'm fairly sure most of the messages in LotR (anti-industrialism and the dangers of pursuing power in particular) would be repellent to a bunch of nerds who want to be machine gods torturing the poors with dust specks for their own amusement or whatever. I've already brought up how they're too deep in nerd-dom to appreciate art and literature for anything more than signifiers. It's the TVTropes way of engaging with media, you just see it as a pile of devices and imagery instead of actually understanding what it's trying to say. Not that Tolkien wasn't a reactionary himself, what with LOTR having a literal hierarchy of races from the demigod Valar to the angelic Maiar to the magical elves to the elevated Dunedain to normal humsns, and of course all the humans darker than peaches and cream threw their lot in with Sauron at the end of the Third Age. Also Tolkien lays on the association of west with everything good with a loving hammer. The most important part of the world is the northwestern coast of Middle-earth, there was an even better land that used to be to the west of that, the bestest humans who ever lived had their own little island to the west of the mainland, until the Dunedain turned against God and God punished them, loving heaven was even further west, and even afterwards it was still kind of sort of west along some magical sea route that took you out of the world altogether. Going east or south is to be avoided at all costs, because of course those directions will lead you to Mordor and all the hot tropical lands full of Sauron-and-Morgoth-worshiping (Morgoth is basically Tolkien Satan, so some of them are literal devil worshipers) dark-skinned bad people. Woolie Wool has a new favorite as of 01:07 on Aug 11, 2015 |
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Robotnik Nudes posted:Funny how in LOTR Sauron is defeated by the Middle Earth equivalent of multiculturalism. The Fellowship is a loving Burger King Kids Club of racial and cultural identity. It's ghot halflings, an elf, a Gondorian, a partial Numeanorian, a loving dwarf. They're of many different races but those races all happen to have white skin and many of their enemies happen to have other shades of skin. Makes you think.
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