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Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

"I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."
Hey Auspol,

Just a reminder about Xylo's Australian Care package. I will post a reminder at the start of each thread monthly thread all the way up until Novembers thread.

As we all know, Xylo has been a fantastic Mod/Admin, better than we deserve. Those of you on Snapchat also know that he has a bubbly baby boy that makes even the most jaded Auspoler go :3: A few of you have decided that you want to send him a thank you.

I am heading to the US in November to present at a conference, and I am happy to carry the package to the US and help pay the postage costs to ship internally once there.

The plan is to make it an Auspol collaboration, an Auspol Christmas present for Xylo's family if you will (no bus chat).

I was thinking the usual stuff like Tim Tams, a bottle of Bundy, Vegemite etc. If people wanted to send personalised stuff they could send it to my work before hand.

Hambeet has offered to be the “treasurer” and collect money through his paypal (like he did for AMU’s ban)

If you want to take part, I have created a google doc like we used in Mafia to chat. Feel free to leave suggestions, let us know if you plan on chipping in or sending a gift through to me.

The google doc is at
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qHwwV7qEMIE58wcE1-2WIsT69jkZPWiSP3ejQxT4Myo/edit?pli=1#gid=1917312845

If you have any questions (like Hambeet’s Paypal account), you can either PM me or if you don’t have PMs you can email
xylopresent at gmail dot com

Which will be periodically checked

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Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

"I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."
Also LNP being caught out making up fake supporters online again.
(Actually not sure if it's fake - but certainly hiding behind other real people)

Campbell Newman supporter uses PR guru Catriona Pollard as profile photo

The internet can be a murky place, especially for those politically minded.
LNP supporter ‘Holly Watson’ and advocate of the Facebook page ‘Supporting Campbell Newman and the LNP’ found herself so under attack for her backing of the government’s criminal gang laws, she “had to completely change” her own profile.

The trouble is she used a photo of Sydney PR guru and social media expert Catriona Pollard as her profile pic, leading to questions about whether the government was involved in the page and who ‘Holly Watson’ was.

But she’s definitely not Ms Pollard.

“Holly Watson appears to be a fake Facebook profile and they have used my image without permission,” Ms Pollard said.

“The page has been reported to Facebook and is under investigation. I am not associated with the posts made by “Holly Watson” to the group page “Supporting Premier Campbell Newman and LNP”.

Neither is the government, with a spokesman for the Premier confirming what the page itself espouses – that it is not connected in any official capacity with the LNP.
Ms Watson quickly changed her image after she was contacted by Fairfax Media.
“I have received many threats of violence so I had to change my fb profile completely,” she said in a message.

“I actually had my picture area blank but I got harassed for that too.
“So I googled pics of women and randomly chose that one...I chose it because it was a little bit 'girl-next-door'.”

But Queensland University of Technology social media researcher, Axel Bruns, said hiding your real identity while pushing political messages could end up hindering the party you support.

“By doing so, you are inviting speculation of whether this is genuinely a grassroots campaign or something that is orchestrated by the party itself to make it look like it is grassroots, which is called astro-turfing,” he said.

“If an astro-turfing campaign is discovered, they can hurt much more than they can help, because it looks like you are prepared to mislead the electorate to make it look like there is support when there isn’t. “

Which is seemingly not the case in this instance.
Ms Watson has decided to continue her support of Campbell Newman and the LNP as 'Rosie the Riveter'.


Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...l#ixzz3967rqEgh

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

"I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."

BlitzkriegOfColour posted:

Police goon fuckhead

BB has the best bedside manner

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

"I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."

Quantum Mechanic posted:

Unbelievably hosed

Seriously though it's probably okay if you're not planning to go into academia. If you are, though, here there be dragons.

Hey "hoping to get into academia" buddy :smith::hf::smith:

I keep seeing ratios of 1 permanent STEM academic position for every 50 or so PhD students that graduate.

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

"I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."
Could someone check whether the following list is complete

Barry O'Farrell (NSW Premier)
Mike Gallacher (NSW Police Minister)
Arthur Sinodinos (Federal Assistant Treasurer)
Chris Hartcher (NSW Resources Minister)
Marie Ficarra (???)
Andrew Cornwell (NSW Government Whip)
Tim Owen (???)

I feel that I have missed a couple. Either way it's still an impressive list

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

"I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."
My History education was pre-Howard to early days of Howard.

We were taught that we lost valiantly at Gallipoli but only because the British dumped us on the wrong beach. We are taught that our poor ANZACs were slaughtered coming off the boats into machine gun fire. The thing is, we probably landed on the correct beach as the one that we were supposed to land on had ten thousand Turkish troops sitting there waiting for us. If the ANZACs had tried to land there, they would have been an utterly slaughtered.

The actually beach landing was one of the most successful in history with only a half dozens casualties in the first hour. The main reason the Turkish were able to pin them down was that Ataturk (i.e. the father of modern secular Turkey) defied orders from his superiors and the Germans to move troops in the way of the advancing ANZACs (the Germans thought that it was a feint and wanted the troops to stay at the beach where they were "supposed" to land).

Sorry to :goonsay: out - but it's one of those little myths that piss me off

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

"I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."
And the other great thing is that there is a bunch of finger pointing going on among the Liberal ranks

Liberals blame Brandis' bigots comment for race law failure

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...l#ixzz39fkBPe7I

quote:

George Brandis' infamous defence of the rights of bigots has been cited by his own colleagues as the cause of the government's capitulation on changing race-hate laws. Liberals said the Attorney-General's comments in April had torpedoed what was a move to uphold free speech.

Liberal Senator Dean Smith backed the proposed changes but said they had gotten off to a ''bad start''.

''The section 18C debate has been a powerful but salient lesson for the government. The debate demonstrated that sound policy not handled with care and precision early, can be quickly and easily hijacked by critics,'' he said.

NSW Liberal Craig Kelly said the bigot comment had allowed the government's critics to ''twist'', ''hijack'' and turn the debate against the government and it never recovered.
''It's very difficult when someone stands up and talks about giving rights to bigots to [then] explain that.''

He said while the Attorney-General was factually correct, it was a ''legalistic argument rather than a political one''.

He also called for the government to better prepare the electorate on the need for major reforms, including fixing the deficit.

Queensland Liberal National MP George Christensen said the government should have ''stuck to its guns on such a fundamental issue''.

''The debate got sidetracked [by the bigot comment] and could have been handled better … it moved away from free speech and ended up being about the government wants to give racists the rights to say.''

Liberal Senator Zed Seselja said although he had concerns about the proposed bill, he did not think it should have had to be junked altogether.

''I supported the principle of the policy and I would have liked to have seen us improve it rather than dump it but I accept that was the political reality,'' he said.

But Victorian Liberal MP Jason Wood defended Senator Brandis and said he held him in ''very high regard''.

Senator Brandis said he had no regrets. ''It's the obligation of politicians to speak the truth and to sometimes speak the truth brutally. I'm not the sort of politician who is the creature of spin doctors and who talks in talking points or mantras, what I said was correct.''


The fact that there are names attached to all the quotes is also telling

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

"I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."

Haters Objector posted:

Since we're all offering financial advice:

Now that the First Home Saver Accounts are dead, my partner and I are looking for somewhere to put some money to save for a house deposit, where we don't get scrub-tier savings account interest rates.

Should I just set up a managed fund with regular contributions from Australian Ethical? Is there a better place that I could be putting my money so that it isn't going to fund coal mining and has a realistic likelihood of returns greater than the ~3.5% we can get from a savings account or a term deposit?

The only thing that I would add is when are you planning on buying a home?

If it is longer than 5 years away - then yeah you might be better going with a managed mutual fund as they will perform better than interest over time.

If it is within the next 5 years however - then it would be a gamble. If the market shits its pants you could lose 30-40% of your savings. This is not an outlandish proposition, if the Chinese property market pops then Australia is going to be in the poo poo deep.

If it's within the next 5 years, I would take TOML's advice and put your money in a decent term deposit. It's boring, but it is safe.

Best of luck dude

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

"I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."

Quantum Mechanic posted:

That's why the NSW Greens are planning to push for a referendum to add ICAC into the NSW constitution :haw:

Yeah - I would really like to see this get up. I think it has a real chance and I would love to see both of the majors try to explain why we don't need it after all the poo poo that has been aired

Also - people have already had fun with Eric Abetz's Wiki page

Professions:
Lawyer
Politician
Pseudoscientist

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Abetz

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

"I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."
The thing that disgusts me about this we hole scandal is if it was a photoshop of a Palestinian dude who had been injured in a blast - most people wouldn't give a poo poo

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

"I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."
The last line of that article

quote:

“There are also job-rich and job-poor locations,” he said. “Take Sydney, for example. Where all the people are who want jobs is out in the west, where all the jobs are is in the east and you can’t get transport from the east to the west at 1am in the morning when you finish a shift. The reality is that we’ve got an incredibly gaping skills shortage that we now estimate will be about 85,000 by next year. If we don’t bring in people from overseas, we’re not going to be able to give jobs to local people.”

:psyduck:

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

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open24hours posted:

Proof of their irrelevance. Not even worth bribing.

Yeah - that's pretty much what my in-laws said when I pointed this out

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

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open24hours posted:

Of course they shouldn't be, but a criticism of their homophobia is a criticism of the religion itself.

Religions ought to be criticised, I'm just surprised to see it happening this way.

This is the point that IWC brought up in the first place and what TOML was agreeing with. Often we are quite happy to maul Christians and Jews for abhorrent views but feel weird about applying the same standards to Muslims.

Edit: I guess the reason is that there is already so much over-the-top negativity coming from bigots that we don't want to be dog piling on top - even for valid criticisms.

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

"I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."
Yeah - we know now from the latest FOI request that when Hockey/Shepherd/Dutton were all talking about on average Australians see a GP 11 times a year they were lying. They were quoting the average number of times an aged pensioner sees a GP a year.

They are dishonest and stupid as it left anyone who studies this area scratching out heads going :psyduck:

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

"I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."

:psyboom:

quote:

The Abbott Government's chief business adviser says too much time has been spent focusing on global warming and as a result Australians are "ill prepared" to deal with the prospect of global cooling.

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

"I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."
Lol - Hockey has come out and apologised for being a callous dickhead

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...0815-3drpn.html

It was telling that neither Pyne or Abbott would back him on those comments

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

"I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."
For those that are interested, the AMA has released their counter proposal to the co-payment policy today.

It's a far better model than what the government was proposing - but it is still the end of Universal health care as far as I am concerned.

Pretty much it boils down to no cuts to the current Medicare rebates for GPs. The Government continues paying the full amount for concession card holders and kids under 16 (including the bulk billing incentive item). The GPs in turn are obliged to charge other general patients a minimum of $6.15 copayment per visit (which the GP keeps). This is to match the extra amount of money they get for treating a concession card holder or someone under 16. If they don't charge the co-payment to general patients they get less of a rebate for the consultation from Medicare.

Long story short - AMA has said don't charge the vulnerable and give us extra money.

(I am not against GPs getting extra money as their wages have risen below CPI for quite some time - compared with specialists who have a licence to loving print money)

https://ama.com.au/media/ama-model-protects-vulnerable-patients-co-payment-pain

AMA posted:

AMA MODEL PROTECTS VULNERABLE PATIENTS FROM CO-PAYMENT PAIN
MEDICARE CO-PAYMENTS - THE AMA’S ALTERNATIVE MODEL
Background
The 2014/15 Budget proposed the introduction of a $7 co-payment that would apply to the vast majority of Medicare funded general practice, pathology and diagnostic imaging (DI) services, effective from 1 July 2015.

At the same time as it seeks to introduce a Medicare co-payment, the Government is also reducing Medicare rebates patients receive for these services by $5.00.
General patients who need pathology and DI tests will also be hit by the removal of bulk billing incentives for these services.

Key issues with the Government’s co-payment model
The AMA has opposed the Government’s model for several key reasons:
• Medicare rebates for patients are cut by over $3.5 billion;
• International evidence shows that co-payments hit disadvantaged patient groups disproportionately, unless they are protected by an adequate safety net;
• Patients will face multiple co-payments across an episode of care, which creates barriers to accessing care;
• A poorly designed system of co-payments will make it harder to tackle the growing burden of chronic disease and discourage important preventative health initiatives like immunisation;
• The changes to Medicare rebates for pathology and DI services are far reaching. In relation to DI, for the more expensive tests, general patients will be paying very high upfront costs - well beyond the proposed $7;
• Practices will face significant additional compliance costs to administer the Government’s co-payment model, including additional staff time, banking, new infrastructure, EFTPOS costs, late payments and bad debts;
• There are significant practical issues in collecting co-payments, including in pathology, aged care and out of rooms consultations.

A poorly designed system of co-payments has the potential to intensify the pressure on our emergency departments and discourage patients from accessing care from their GP.
General practice is a low cost and efficient part of the health system, and if people delay seeing their GP they may end up needing more expensive interventions, including hospital care. This makes our health system less, not more, sustainable – contrary to the Government’s intent.

The AMA and Medicare co-payments
The AMA is not opposed to the principle that people with the means should contribute to the cost of their health care, but it has to be done in a way that is practical, values general practice, and protects disadvantaged patients.

We are ready to support a Medicare co-payment, and have offered to the Government an alternative model that seeks to address the significant issues outlined above.
The AMA’s alternative Medicare co-payment model

No cuts to Medicare rebates for patients
Patients value their Medicare rebate, which provides important support when they need to access medical care. The real value of a patient’s Medicare rebate has been falling for many years, with indexation failing to keep up with inflation and practice costs. The AMA is opposed to any further erosion in the value of patient rebates and will not support the Government’s proposed cuts.

Protection of disadvantaged patient groups.
The Government already has a system of concession cards to provide extra support for disadvantaged patients and recognises the need to remove barriers to care for children under 16. Under the AMA model, the Government would cover the cost of a co-payment for these patients in most circumstances.

The AMA model also eliminates the 10 visit threshold proposed by the Government for concession card holders and children under 16 years, which the AMA sees as inadequate.

Helping people with chronic disease, mental health problems and encouraging prevention
Under the AMA model, there would be no obligation on GPs to charge a co-payment for Medicare-funded chronic disease services, health assessments and mental health treatment items. In addition, for concession card holders or children under 16 who access these services, the Government would also cover the cost of co-payments for the standard GP consultations they might need at other times.

Supporting patients with high out of pocket medical costs.
Under the Government’s model, the Medicare co-payment does not count towards the Medicare safety net thresholds, which is unfair on those with high out-of-pocket medical costs. Under the AMA’s model, all co-payments would be included in determining whether or not the Medicare safety net has been reached.

Reducing the compliance burden on practices
By eliminating the 10 visit threshold and using well understood and accepted systems to identify disadvantaged patient groups, the AMA’s alternative model eliminates much of the red tape that would otherwise be imposed under the Government’s model. The AMA model would also restrict the co-payment to standard in-room GP consultations, making it easier to administer.

What services would the co-payment be applied to?
General practice
For those patients that do not have a concession care or who are 16 years or older, GPs would be obliged to charge a minimum Medicare co-payment for standard GP consultations in rooms.
This obligation would not apply to:
Residential aged care visits;
Home visits;
Chronic disease management services;
Health assessments; and
Mental health treatment items.

For those GP services that are not subject the minimum Medicare co-payment, existing bulk billing incentives would also be retained to encourage access to these services.
Like now, a GP will retain the discretion to charge a higher amount for general patients.

How would the co-payment work for concession card holders and children under 16?
Medicare currently provides bulk billing incentives for GPs to treat concession card holders and children under 16 with no out of pocket costs. The AMA is determined to see that these patients continue to be supported to access GP care.

Under the AMA model, where the GP's fee matches the applicable Medicare rebate plus the minimum co-payment amount, the Government will pay the co-payment on behalf of the patient. In regional, rural and other currently eligible areas, the Government will pay an amount equivalent to the existing bulk billing incentive (currently $9.25).
Like now, a GP will retain the discretion to charge a higher amount, but in this circumstance the Government would not pay the co-payment. Experience shows that the vast majority of patients in this group would face no out-of-pocket costs under this approach.

How much is the proposed co-payment for general practice services?
The AMA has proposed that the minimum Medicare co-payment be fixed at the level of the existing bulk-billing incentive for GP services in metropolitan areas (currently $6.15), with annual indexation applied.
GPs may continue to charge more than this amount, as is currently the case.

How would the co-payment be encouraged?
The Government is determined to send a price signal to patients and it is also important that there is a level playing field for practices.
In circumstances where the Medicare co-payment should be applied and the GP does not charge it, then Medicare will only provide a rebate equivalent to the lower A2 rebate level.

Collecting the co-payment
The AMA recommends the introduction of a simplified billing system that can confirm eligibility for Government payments and simply allow the practice to charge the patient a gap where one is applicable.

Pathology and diagnostic imaging
AMA is open to the application of a co-payment in pathology and diagnostic imaging and has recommended that the Government work with stakeholders towards the achievement of this goal. There are very real practical issues that need to be resolved with respect to the collection of a co-payment as well as the impact on the viability of practices, before any system of co-payments can go ahead.

In this regard, the AMA has proposed to Government that the measure be deferred for at least two years.

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

"I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."
Bill Shorten's approval sky rockets with the MRA crowd

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

"I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."
I haven't seen this get much coverage - but Palmer is changing his policy making it easier for his ETS to kick in by removing India and changing the conditions so countries with similar schemes count.

I know he is a crazy self serving bastard, but I am an eternal optimist. Holding a summit on climate change right after the G20 is a top tier troll.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/clive-palmer-tones-down-conditions-for-emissions-trading-scheme-20140821-106u3o.html

SMH posted:

Clive Palmer has softened the conditions under which his proposed emissions trading scheme would be launched, in an attempt to attract more political support for a new price on carbon.

The details of Mr Palmer's proposed trading scheme, which he first floated in an unlikely joint news conference with former US vice-president Al Gore in June, were circulated to the government, opposition and other senators on Thursday.

In a move that would make it easier for the conditions necessary for emissions trading to be met, Mr Palmer has dropped India from a list of countries that would have to take broad action on climate change before an Australian scheme would kick in.

He has also relaxed the conditions that must be met by the US, China, the European Union, Japan and South Korea for a scheme to be launched.

The Palmer United Party is hopeful Labor and the Greens will back the scheme in the Senate because the PUP proposal largely replicates the architecture of the carbon price passed by the Gillard government. But even if Labor and the Greens passed it in the Senate, it is unlikely the legislation would get through the House of Representatives, given the federal government's opposition to a price on carbon.

Neither Labor nor the Greens would comment on the latest PUP proposal on Thursday.

Mr Palmer, who announced this week plans to host a world climate change conference after November's G20 summit in Brisbane, said his intention was to relaunch the debate over carbon pricing after the federal government repealed the carbon tax with his party's support.

"The carbon tax was an arbitrary tax that was five to six times the international price and Australians realised that," he said.

"What we want is something that is fair, reasonable and that, internationally, doesn't affect our industries and jobs."

Mr Palmer described the proposal, which is expected to be introduced in the next sitting of Parliament which begins on Monday, as "good policy".

The legislation would give the Climate Change Authority power to determine if the international conditions had been met to trigger an Australian scheme. But either house could still move to disallow the authority's ruling.

Despite earlier suggestions from Mr Palmer that big trading partners would be required to install their own national trading schemes, the draft legislation now says they could also have in place "equivalent schemes" that are similar or have a comparable effect as any Australian emissions trading scheme.

The proposal also sets out that the trading scheme must not "unfairly impact" Australian businesses relative to the businesses of the US, the EU, Japan, Korea and China.

Sources close to the Palmer camp acknowledged that with the government unlikely to back the scheme, the move was more a political "symbol that carbon pricing will come back".
A spokeswoman for Environment Minister Greg Hunt said the Coalition's policy was not to support an emissions trading scheme, and instead it would continue to work with the Senate on its alternative direct action climate change policy.

"What is being proposed is a re-work of the carbon tax bill which was just repealed," she said.

Mr Palmer has previously suggested he could make government support for his trading scheme proposal a condition of PUP support for direct action.

Mr Palmer's senators will hold talks over the weekend to discuss whether their support for direct action will depend on the federal government shifting its position on a floating carbon price.

Environment groups, including the Climate Institute and WWF, have welcomed the amendment, but argue that the conditions set out in Mr Palmer's proposal have largely already been met by the five trading partners.

WWF national climate change manager Kellie Caught said there was "support among Australians for an ETS" because polluter-pays schemes were seen as fair policy.
"Tony Abbott has shown his willingness to listen and compromise on policies over the last few months," Ms Caught said.

"We think this is an opportunity for the government to take a look at this."

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

"I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."

Brown Paper Bag posted:

http://www.watoday.com.au/federal-p...824-107sov.html
Resettled refugees say they are desperate and living 'like animals in the jungle' on Nauru
August 25, 2014

I was just reading this and strayed into the comments - Ross from Mallabula is a glutton for punishment. It's sad that even in Fairfax articles the comments are 1 decent person for every two poo poo stains

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

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Mad Katter posted:

Does that make 9 now?

I was asking for a definitive list earlier in the thread as I have heard conflicting numbers. It would be great to get so that you can throw it into the face of anyone that believes the Libs aren't as corrupt as Labor

Edit: For content

Barry O'Farrell (NSW Premier)
Mike Gallacher (NSW Police Minister)
Arthur Sinodinos (Federal Assistant Treasurer)
Chris Hartcher (NSW Resources Minister)
Marie Ficarra (Member of the Legislative Council)
Andrew Cornwell (NSW Government Whip)
Tim Owen (Member for Newcastle)
Bart Bassett (Member for Londonderry)
Chris Spence (Member for The Entrance)
Darren Webber (Member for Wyong)

SMH posted:

Seven Liberal MPs have now moved to the crossbench during the ICAC's inquiry, including former police minister Mike Gallacher and former energy minister Chris Hartcher.

Two others, Tim Owen and Andrew Cornwell, have quit politics and Barry O'Farrell stepped down as premier during a related inquiry after he gave evidence that was contradicted by a handwritten note.

So that means if you include Sinodinos and Barry (he just stepped down from being Premier - he didn't leave the party correct?) there have been 11 Liberals brought down by ICAC so far


Freudian Slip fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Aug 27, 2014

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

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Quantum Mechanic posted:

Chris Spence and Darren Webber as well.

Cheers - updated the list

Still missing one bucket of pond scum!

\/\/\/\/\/\/ - Double cheers!

Freudian Slip fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Aug 27, 2014

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

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Ahh the employment adventures of Froglet & Anidav continue

:allears:

Which race is he (I assume he) after?

I am going with the entire middle east

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

"I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."

Gough Suppressant posted:

"Maybe it's not racist to say that Asians are bad drivers but good at maths"

-Joe 'dumb, drunk and racist' Hildebrand

This is something that annoys me more than I guess it should. People who think that saying a positive thing about a race can't be racist. The whole Asian are good at maths or that black people are good at athletics schtick. By implication, they are saying other races are not as good at maths or athletics.

They see racism = bad

instead of racism = broad generalisations based on race

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

"I'm an archivist. I'm archiving."
Nathan Tinkler takes the stand today (finally)

I have heard stories from my brother that one of things that Nathan did once he got rich was that he would not pay small contractors that had done work for him.

When they would ask to get paid, he would say nope take me to court and I will bury you in legal fees. This is for jobs only worth $5-25K. Nothing to him but enough to push a small business person into the red sometimes.

This is from a guy that used to work as an electrician.

I really hope that he does gaol time

Freudian Slip
Mar 10, 2007

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Tinkler has pride and believes he is smarter than he is. I am really hoping that Watson gets him to commit perjury.

EDIT: Well that was a let down, it's already over :(

Freudian Slip fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Aug 29, 2014

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Mar 10, 2007

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Just going to leave this here

SMH posted:

"Just as there is no place on the internet for terrorism or paedophilia, there should be no place for theft that will impact the livelihoods of the 900,000 people whose security is protected by legitimate copyright," Village Roadshow argues.

"The problem is urgent as piracy is spreading like a highly infectious disease and as bad habits become entrenched, they become harder to eradicate."

One of these things is not like the others

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