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Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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Lateline ‏@Lateline 11m
The government reveals it took 157 missing asylum seekers to within a few kilometers of India. Watch @jason_om tonight at 10.25pm

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Mar 23, 2005

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Don't click, Arsetralian

George Brandis slams Fairfax newspaper over ‘anti-Semitic’ cartoon
THE AUSTRALIAN AUGUST 04, 2014 12:00AM
Darren Davidson

THE Attorney-General, George Brandis, has accused Fairfax Media of publishing anti-Semitic coverage of the Middle East, and denounced a cartoon in The ­Sydney Morning Herald depicting a Jewish man with an exaggerated nose as comparable to propaganda from Nazi Germany.

In an extraordinary attack, Senator Brandis said coverage in Fairfax papers of the Gaza conflict was “overtly anti-Semitic”.

“I thought the cartoon was deplorable,” Senator Brandis said. “I think that critics of Israel’s foreign policy of course have every right to express their views. But I would have thought that a responsible media organisation would have a very good look at itself when it publishes cartoons (of) the kind we haven’t seen since Germany in the 1930s.”

In response to criticism from the Executive Council of Australian Jewry, Herald editor-in-chief Darren Goodsir said the cartoon was not intended to incite racial hatred. He said it was modelled on a number of photographs published, including one with an old man sitting observing the conflict in Gaza from a hill near Sderot.

Today’s edition of the Herald carries an apology in its editorial. Senator Brandis’s intervention will ratchet up pressure on Fairfax, which is facing a reader and advertiser backlash over the cartoon.

The Australian Jewish News has called on readers to cancel subscriptions to Fairfax. The cartoon illustrated a column by Mike Carlton, which ran in the paper’s July 26 edition. ­Created by illustrator Glen Le ­Lievre, the cartoon also ran on the website of Victorian masthead The Age, which is also published by Fairfax. The cartoon features an old man with a hook nose sitting in a chair emblazoned with the Star of David on the back, pressing a remote to blow up a Palestinian area.

Asked if the cartoon amounted to racial vilification and could encourage or incite others to hate Jews, Senator Brandis said: “It certainly constitutes a racial form of stereotyping. I think The Sydney Morning Herald and Fairfax Media in general ought to be very careful about the almost overtly anti-Semitic tone some of their commentary, including their editorial cartoon, have adopted.”

It is understood Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull rang Goodsir to lambast him for running the cartoon, which he deemed anti-Semitic and offensive to many of his constituents in his eastern Sydney electorate.

Carlton’s column quoted Israeli journalist Gideon Levy accusing the Jewish state of fascism. “It is a breathtaking irony that these atrocities can be committed by a people with a proud liberal tradition of scholarship and culture, who hold the Warsaw Ghetto and the six million dead of the Holocaust at the centre of their race memory,” Carlton wrote. “But this is a new and brutal Israel.”

Goodsir declined to comment yesterday.

:ironicat:

The cartoon:

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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Cartoon posted:

Arsetralian, paywalled. 1/10 see me after class.

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Bees in the bonnet led to too many pettifogging old media ownership rules
Mark Day
THE AUSTRALIAN August 04, 2014 12:00AM

FREE speech gives us all the right to speak our mind. It extends, accord­ing to Attorney-General Georg­e Brandis, to the right to be bigoted. It justifies, thankfully without endorsing, the toxic, vindictive and unsavoury cesspits of blogs and tweets.

But none of us has fully free speech. We are constrained, eith­er by our own common sense, em­pathy for others or self-control, or by government-imposed defamation laws, vilification laws and regulatory red tape that profess to define community standards.

Even nations built on notions of liberty and free choices for its indiv­iduals recognise the limits of free speech. But the trick is to know where to draw those limits, and that is an ever-changing proposition in an ever-changing world.

When our methods and means of communication were limited, it was fairly easy. If what you said was judged to expose someone else into hatred, ridicule or contempt, you could expect to pay. The larger the audience, the bigger the defo bill.

But in a world of digitally driven social media, blogs, internet commentary, tweeting and the like, it is all but impossible to monitor, let alone restrict, who is saying what. As well, the digital revolution makes the regulatory framework attached to the legacy media both unwieldy and unworkable.

The issue of free speech will be discussed and debated at a Human Rights Commission symposium in Sydney on Thursday. It will look at restrictions on free speech, including defamation law, media regulation and the digital environment.

I was asked by Human Rights Commissioner Tim Wilson to speak on media regulation, rang­ing from the work of the Australian Communication and Media Authority to media concentration, but I am unable to be there.

A good starting point for the analysis of the work of ACMA is to ask why it is there. It is a large bur­eaucratic body looking after legitimate issues around managing spectrum matters — which frequencies should be used for radio, television, intergalactic telescopes, worksite two-way radio systems or WiFi connections.

It also has to decide on whether or not the bogan-style comments of, say, Kyle and Jackie O meet or offend community standards. Whatever debate may arise over issues such as this, you can be assured that if something offensive is broadcast, its equivalent will be 10 times worse on social media.

I accept that spectrum needs to be managed to avoid chaos, in the same way as we need to all drive on the same side of the road. But no longer can a case be made for bodies such as ACMA to impose limits on what can or cannot be said beyond those defined by defo and vilification laws.

In the early days of broadcasting, these controls were imposed because broadcasting spectrum was scarce and licensed by governments. Broadcasters were expected to meet community standards designed to be inoffensive to all. They also had obligations for children’s programming and were bound by law to broadcast regular religious programs.

Today, with limitless access to communication channels, inter­action can be one-to-one, rather than one-to-many, and the consumer is empowered to become his or her own censor.

ACMA has a room full of people whose job it is to watch porn channels all day. They are deciding which websites should be put on the government’s blocked list. I have no idea how many sites are blocked but it’s laughable to suggest this work goes anywhere close to inhibiting the global online porn industry. Why bother? It is surely a parent’s job to install filters on their kids’ computers or phones to block this content.

ACMA has other nonsensical roles: it must keep a register of radio station ownership, especially in the bush, and be ready to jump on sales or mergers that result in a change of ownership so it can ensure live and local services, including news, are maintained. This was a rule pushed through by former Nationals MP Paul Neville. It was drafted so widely that it caught changes in ownership brought about by death and family succession, but that was later changed and the rules now apply to hours of service, news bulletins and staff levels. Now Neville is out of the parliament, these pettifogging, unworkable rules that resulted from a silly bee in his bonnet should be abandoned.

ACMA’s chairman is Chris Chapman, a lawyer with a commercial broadcasting background. He is bound to work within the public service and execute ACMA’s tightly worded laws, so he is more focused on getting the job done than worrying about any deep-seated reform he may think necessary. But he has guided ACMA through a period of review that led to papers calling for reform of “broken concepts” and building on “enduring concepts” to streamline essential regulation.

ACMA sees a need for due process and natural justice, leaving the impression it is focused on the trees rather than the forest. Its work is slow, cumbersome and costly and its regulatory remit is crying for reform.

All this adds up to my view that it is well and truly time for Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull to, putting it crudely (as one may in a fully free-speech environment), piss or get off the pot. He is approaching his first anniv­ersary in the job and is, uncharacteristically, crawling towards a promised wholesale review of media regulation.

Turnbull will have his eyes fixed firmly on the big-picture game when he makes his calls on media-ownership rules, including cross-ownership and diversity matters. But he should also question the validity of dozens of old rules, many created to satisfy past political priorities rather than address real needs. They might have seemed worthwhile when the world was a very different place but now, they are irrelevant.

Turnbull is the kind of bloke who, given the choice between wholesale reform and tinkering at the edges, instinctively thinks big. He has a quick-enough brain to suggest he’s had enough time for thinking, and the sooner he acts to sweep away all but essential regulation, the better off we’ll all be.

mday@ozemail.com.au

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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Australians showing once again they're a huge ignorant piece of poo poo

#Essential Poll Requiring dole recipients to do up to 25 hours community service a week: Approve 68 Disapprove 25 #auspol

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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Jumpingmanjim posted:

here's a question, what the gently caress does the herald sun put on their front cover tomorrow? I predict they will blame labor some how.

It's another attempt to make something of the Aussie-Jihadi's, but in the bottom left corner they have this:


Someone photoshop an S on the end
E: bigger here http://heraldsun.newspaperdirect.com/epaper/viewer.aspx

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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no link yet but Mike Carlton has left SMH.

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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It's loving hilarious that the IPA is seeking $38,000 in urgent donations to fund an ad to attack Abbott. What a nice day.

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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Splode posted:

source?

That is absolutely hilarious.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/fed...0806-3d8i7.html

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The IPA has emailed its supporters pleading for cash to fund a $38,000 attack ad which will use the Prime Minister's own words against him.

"Tony Abbott has given up but the IPA never will," the email says.

The IPA will quote from Mr Abbott's speech to the IPA in 2012 when he said "freedom of speech is an essential foundation of democracy".

And in a further rebuff of the Prime Minister, the IPA is offering donors a copy of his comments signed by the News Corp columnist Andrew Bolt, who was successfully prosecuted under the current laws.

More in the link

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Mar 23, 2005

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Mar 23, 2005

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Jackie Blackburn hugs her children who were terrorised on their school bus. Men described as ‘drunk’ shouted ‘Heil Hitler’ and ‘Kill the Jews’ before alighting at Bondi Junction. Source: Supplied


Mrs Blackburn claimed the bus driver had allowed the men on but refused to give his name when she questioned him. Photo: Danielle Smith Source: Supplied

Don't click

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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Fruity Gordo posted:

In my interpretation, you don't apply the concept until there's appreciable media coverage. So, not just when a terrorgraph link has been up for 4 hours. It's about the culture, not one article, and if anyone in the media persists with this story they'll have to admit that they're dealing with white supremacists so it will derail the whole narrative. So these children won't exist in the narrative, but they will exist as traumatised kids outside of it who were manipulated by their parents and propagandists and mocked by idiots for absolutely bullshit reasons which had nothing to do with ensuring their wellbeing.

It's the front page story for today's Telegraph.

I was going to write something more but I'm just too tired to articulate it.

Ler fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Aug 6, 2014

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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xutech posted:

What kind of fancy lives do you lead where you got drunk in your youth on anything other than goon, passionpop or VB?

Gross, and no.
I only drunk goon, passion pop and VB once of each in my life. It was usually Woodstocks, UDL's and Teddy's (all of which are also incredibly poo poo).

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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NTRabbit posted:

She got a $60k scholarship off the back of one 15 minute interview before she'd even received any grades to get that D average, she absolutely knew it was dodgy as gently caress and deserves the scrutiny

As there wasn't any scholarship to begin with, it makes it even more dodgy when you add that it was the College that contacted her for said "interview".

'Please come talk to us, we'd love for you to have $60,000 if you'd be so kind as to accept and this has absolutely nothing at all to do with your father in persuading him to deregulate university funding in Australia...'

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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More dodgy donations, job appointments for the energy industry and LNP/ALP

quote:

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/water-issues/secret-agl-political-donations-while-seeking-csg-approval-20140810-101yrj.html
Secret AGL political donations while seeking CSG approval
August 11, 2014 - 12:15AM


Energy giant supplier AGL gave almost $100,000 to the NSW Labor and Liberal parties while seeking approval to drill 110 coal seam gas wells near Gloucester on the mid-north coast, but only half of those donations were apparently disclosed to the Planning Department making the decision.

AGL's then head of government affairs Sarah McNamara – now an adviser to Prime Minister Tony Abbott – declared on May 13, 2010, that the company had made four political donations over the “relevant” two-year period totalling $48,250.

The funds were split $26,250 to Labor and $22,000 to the Liberals, who were then in opposition. However, the declaration omitted $11,000 donated for membership to the Liberal Party’s now discredited Millennium Forum on October 1, 2008.

Between the application and its approval by the Planning Assessment Commission on February 22, 2011, AGL donated a further $39,300. Of that, Labor received two donations of $13,750 and the bulk of the remainder went to the Liberals, including for several meals with then opposition leader and later premier Barry O’Farrell, who won a landslide victory in the subsequent March 2011 elections.

Details of the donations were compiled from public election funding records by Groundswell Gloucester, a local group opposed to AGL’s plans.

The group made no allegation that the donations swayed the final decision to approve drilling. However, they had engaged the Environmental Defenders Office NSW, which last week wrote to Planning Minister Pru Goward seeking an investigation by her department.

“The disclosure of donations to political parties made by proponents is a requirement of any planning system that has integrity,” said Sue Higginson, a principal solicitor at the EDO, who added the Independent Commission Against Corruption – now examining a series of donation issues – had said disclosure was essential for planning matters.

By coincidence, the EDO letter was sent the same day Energy Minister Anthony Roberts extended AGL’s CSG exploration permit for Gloucester by six years and approved hydraulic fracturing – fracking – of wells within a few hundred metres of homes.

“We call upon the Energy Minister to immediately suspend all AGL operations until there’s a full enquiry into the whole process of approval,” said John Watts, a barrister and Groundswell Gloucester spokesman. The probe should also include “whatever donations were received up until the renewal of the licence a few days ago, and the approval of the fracking”.

A spokeswoman for AGL dismissed the claims as “one of a number of claims that anti-CSG activists have raised”.

“At the time that AGL lodged the Part 3A major project application for the Gloucester Gas Project on 30 July 2008, there was no statutory obligation to lodge a political donations statement,” the spokeswoman said. The company had also updated the donation list on July 27 this year.

Details were being sought of the more recent donations, which were yet to be made public. An explanation was also being sought on why AGL's voluntary declaration in 2010 was apparently incomplete – omitting the $11,000 Millennium Forum donation – and not updated to include the $39,300 in gifts prior to the project winning approval.

“No one ever knew there were further donations,” Mr Watts said. “The general member of the public would not go hunting on the electoral websites” for disclosures that might be posted well after they were made, he said.

A Planning Department spokeswoman said the department would respond to the EDO “in due course”.

University of NSW constitution law expert George Williams said the AGL issue added to the need for an overhaul of corporate donations.

“There’s the larger issue of what they should be entitled to donate in the first place,” Professor Williams said. “Corporate interests don’t donate money unless they hope to get something in return.”

Greens MP John Kaye planned to introduce legislation within weeks to ban donations from coal, gas and other mining companies, adding that such companies could often leave longer-lasting impacts, such as with open-cut mines, than developers building blocks of flats.

“We are deeply concerned that the consequences of tainted government decision-making for communities and the environment are so great to justify the restraint on political communication,” Mr Kaye said.

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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Cleretic posted:

gently caress it, just write out your entire resume by hand. It'll make you stand out, or something!

My girlfriend actually had to do this last week, and it was a requirement (working for the Austrian courts in Vienna). Still trying to understand why they would require it.

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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Anyone using this Chrome extension? https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bye-rupert/ehdikikkfbfjjemfadgggcohkjoggoof
There isn't a whole lot of detail about it

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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New friendly jordies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAk2f1HBLNA

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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adamantium|wang posted:

most likely another five.

Shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up :( :( :(

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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Murodese posted:

So, who wants to guess at the next Liberal leader? Turnbull doesn't have support, Bernardi is too crazy but might plausibly take the position (although, Senator). Newscorp have been writing Bishop puff pieces about her mangling her lizard features into approximations of sadness re: MH17 dead kids, so that might be a hint.

Julie Asbestos Bishop is too dead inside for it to work, if you've ever been in her presence there's definitely a chill about.

e. I remember not too long ago when the turnbull leadership challenge poo poo was going on, some poll had Julie Bishop as 1% favourite for the leadership.

Ler fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Aug 17, 2014

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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Stay classy News Corp

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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Greg Hunt,"We are doing this for the poor people in India who are getting electricity for the first time"

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Mar 23, 2005

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quote:


East coast fast-rail link back on track
RICK WALLACE THE AUSTRALIAN AUGUST 19, 2014 12:00AM

THE push for an east coast, high-speed, rail link has received a boost, with the Abbott government holding a series of high-level meetings with Japanese, Chinese, Spanish and French rail companies in Australia and abroad.

Trade Minister Andrew Robb said the talks had included discussions on financial models to make the project viable, despite its hefty estimated price tag of $110 billion and the government’s fiscal constraints.

Renewed interest in the project comes as Central Japan Railway Company declared Japanese tunnelling methods could strip 20-30 per cent off the projected cost. The company, Japan’s most profitable high-speed rail operator, has also revealed that Japanese government lender JBIC is prepared to bankroll construction if Australia shares the risk.

Albury-Wodonga and other regional cities and shires along the planned route have thrown their support behind the project as a way to boost their populations and encourage development.

The Melbourne-Sydney leg, the likely first stage of any east coast, high-speed, rail venture, is the fifth busiest air route in the world, underscoring the potential for fast rail to attract enough customers to defray the cost.

The Rudd-Gillard government pushed the rail project, which would connect Melbourne and Brisbane via Sydney and Canberra in its full form, and opposition infrastructure spokesman Anthony Albanese remains a strong supporter. After the Coalition won power, the advisory group charged with planning the route was wound up as part of budget cuts, and it was assumed the idea was dead in the short term.

With public support for the venture running at 82 per cent, and interest from a range of Asian and European players deepening, it has floated back into the political consciousness.

Mr Robb’s comments reveal the Coalition is continuing to ­explore options to build the project, provided it can be predominantly privately funded, and the government has committed to trying to purchase the identified land corridor for the route.

“High-speed rail is certainly one of those things that could deliver huge efficiency gains to Australia, if it could be financed in a viable way,’’ Mr Robb said.

“Historically, it has never been seen as something that could deliver the type of return on investment to warrant support. If it is to materialise it will require some innovative financing mechanisms that don’t rely on substantial debt funding and such innovative ­approaches are being examined.”

Travel times for Melbourne-Sydney and Sydney-Brisbane would be less than three hours. For the project to be viable without subsidy, the highest ticket prices would need to be about equal to a business-class flight, about $300-$400 for the Melbourne-Sydney sector, proponents say.

Australasian Railway Association chief executive Bryan Nye, who has been lobbying for the project, said he wanted the government to call for expressions of interest as soon as possible.

Central Japan Railway Company’s Gen Okajima confirmed the company’s strong interest in the project but said it was waiting for an invitation from the Australian government before detailing its plans as a matter of protocol and courtesy. Mr Okajima, the company’s Sydney representative, said the feasibility study was conservative and the cost of $110bn could be brought down by 20 to 30 per cent by using tunnels cut to suit Japan’s Shinkansen bullet trains.

He confirmed that the Japan Bank for International Co-operation was willing to fund the project if the Australian government was prepared to underwrite a certain minimum level of patronage


Personally don't see this happening because Abbott's invested so much loving stupid time and energy into budget emergency. Maybe he'll shelve all the roads projects and replace it with this (lol nope).

In any case I would loving love high speed rail links between the major cities.

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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duck monster posted:

I wouldn't mind a decent internet connection.

But I guess you guys over east can have your loving train line :(

A real NBN would also be loving tops but we can't have everything, or in the LNP's case - anything.


As someone who is from Perth as well, I guess we just have to live with the fact the state will be pretty isolated for many years to come.

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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Where do I start with this?


quote:

Children and their families who arrived under the former Labor government will be allowed to settle in the community.
The new policy will apply to asylum seekers now in community detention housing and 150 children in immigration detention centres such as Villawood.
It is expected most of the children will be released by the end of the year, saving taxpayers an estimated $50 million.

HUNDREDS of children held in immigration detention on the Australian mainland will be released into the community under a plan by the federal government to bring an end to child incarceration.

The Daily Telegraph has learned all children and their families who arrived and were detained under the former Labor government will be allowed to settle in the community on bridging visas while their refugee applications are processed.
The new policy of releasing children into the community will be available to 1547 children under 10 and their families being held in community detention housing or on bridging visas but for whom a community detention place had not been available because of a lack of facilities and services.

More significantly, it will apply to 150 children still being held in immigration detention centres such as Villawood in Western Sydney, who will be granted visas to be settled in the community with their families.
It is expected the majority of these children will have been released into the community by the end of the year, a move that will save taxpayers $50 million — the cost of keeping them in detention.

Immigration and Border Protection Minister Scott Morrison told The Daily Telegraph the government had been prevented from releasing the children earlier because of the lack of community detention facilities.
Community detention is housing provided by the Immigration Department — primarily for families — as an alternative to being confined to a centre, but with modest restrictions and still formally considered detention.
Mr Morrison said he had been working for months on finding safe and appropriate housing in the community — through private rentals or supported accommodation — to deal with the backlog.
The families of children released into the community would also be offered assistance with managing financial hardship, access to affordable transport, healthcare and help with language barriers.
“It is the Abbott government’s policy to keep children out of detention by firstly stopping the boats and then releasing as many children as possible, who had already arrived, into available community residential facilities,” Mr Morrison said.
“It has been the lack of community residential facilities in the community detention program that has until now prevented more children being released from mainland detention into the community.
“The alternative of releasing children and families on bridging visas has not been preferred as the support arrangements put in place by Labor were insufficient.
“The advice I have received is that children and families on bridging visas could become quickly isolated in the community and were vulnerable to exploitation. These are not conditions into which you responsibly release children.
“I was simply not prepared to dump children in the community to satisfy the chattering calls of those who claim to be advocates for children, but were happy to have them placed in a position of potentially even greater risk in the community.”
But the new policy will not apply to those transferred from offshore for medical treatment — of which there are several hundred.


1. Showing the faces of asylum seeker children on the front page of the loving newspaper.
2. The bullshit about how Tony Abbott is saving these poor children from Labors horrible clutches when both of these dipshits were responsible for their incarceration
3. The blatant fallacy that this was the Liberals plan at all
4. The humanisation of lord pickleshit himself Morriscum

So loving angry.

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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Useless but interesting polls

GhostWhoVotes ‏@GhostWhoVotes 51s
#Essential Poll If Senate blocks most of Budget what should Govt do: A new Budget 38 Call election 43 #auspol

#Essential Poll Is Federal Budget good or bad for Aust jobs: Good 21 Bad 49 #auspol

#Essential Poll Is economy headed in right or wrong direction: Right 35 (-4) Wrong 41 (+7) #auspol

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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University of Adelaide on lock down in preparation for Abbotts visit https://www.facebook.com/onditmagazine/posts/10152628445217390

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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So yesterday News Corp pissed off a whole bunch of people by showing a graphic photo on the front page of the New York Post, it's just moments prior to James Foley's beheading - they've now done essentially the exact same thing with the Terrorgraph, Hun & the Courier Mail.

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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Protestors have breached the #AbbottFence at Adelaide Uni.

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Mar 23, 2005

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haha https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvjtxZtCEAAuk8u.jpg:large

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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Nah, despite being the finance minister he's still a political nobody in Australia

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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New Roy Morgan
http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/5...m_campaign=5751

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ALP lead down slightly over L-NP (55.5%:44.5%)
August 25 2014 Finding No. 5751 Topic: Federal Poll Public Opinion
Finding No. 5751 – This multi-mode Morgan Poll on Federal voting intention was conducted via face-to-face and SMS interviewing over the last two weekends of August 16/17 & 23/24, 2014 with an Australia-wide cross-section of 2,691 Australian electors aged 18+, of all electors surveyed 2.5% did not name a party.
ALP support fell to 55.5% (down 0.5%) still well ahead of the L-NP 44.5%, (up 0.5%) on a two-party preferred basis. If an election had been held the ALP would have won easily according to this week’s Morgan Poll on voting intention conducted with an Australia-wide cross-section of 2,691 Australian electors aged 18+ over the last two weekends – August 16/17 & 23/24, 2014.

The Morgan Poll allocated preferences based on how people say they will vote – allocating preferences by how electors voted at the last Federal Election, as used by News Corp’s poll*, show the ALP (54%) cf. L-NP (46%) – for trends see Morgan Poll historic data table.

Despite ALP support falling slightly on a two-party preferred basis, primary support for the ALP rose slightly to 38.5% (up 0.5% over the past fortnight) whilst the L-NP primary support was unchanged at 37.5%. Support amongst the other parties shows The Greens fell to 10.5% (down 0.5%), the Palmer United Party (PUP) fell 1% to 4.5% after PUP Leader Clive Palmer’s outburst against the Chinese Government last week while Independents/ Others rose 1% to 9%.

Support for PUP is highest in two of the three States which elected PUP Senators: Palmer’s home State of Queensland (6.5%) and Tasmania (6.5%). Support for PUP is lower in New South Wales (4%), Victoria (3%), Western Australia (4%) and South Australia (4.5%).

More detailed analysis and breakdown on the site.


E: And Moody's downgraded WA's credit rating, after S&P did the same http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-25/wa-credit-rating-downgraded-by-moodys/5694906

Ler fucked around with this message at 08:00 on Aug 25, 2014

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Mar 23, 2005

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Quantum Mechanic posted:

gently caress Moody's, gently caress S&P, gently caress wealthy private corporations given carte blanche to dictate how our country operates based off their strong pedigree of leading the global economy off a cliff.

That's a given of course but it's still highly amusing to see the party that always labels themselves as economic wunderkind's never be able to live up to standard. The fact that they believe in the system that credit rating agencies espouse makes it even sweeter.

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Mar 23, 2005

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Sanguine posted:

When the margin of error is several percent, why bother discussing 0.5% swings? It's as useful as reading tea leaves or guessing the footy score using TV static. Is there some greater plan here?

Personally after the MH17 stuff was forgotten I expected the LNP to take a big hit in the polls given all of the recent poo poo their idiots have been saying, but alas they haven't. Maybe this is as low as it will get for them, further securing my disdain for Australian voters.

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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It's my right as a Son of the Southern Cross to defend our Rights and Liberties and make sure those loving muzzies don't get in

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

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The Turnbull NBN CBA has been released, Dropbox Here, and also has the nerdlingers over at Whirlpool frothing with anger. I shouldn't have to tell you that Turnbull's NBN is pro LNP policy and shows Labor NBN 'not what Australia wants nor needs'.

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Mar 23, 2005

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quote:

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...826-108nxo.html

Tony Abbott's visit to cancer hospital used to 'justify' fund-raising visit
Date August 27, 2014

Prime Minister Tony Abbott told government MPs he had to schedule an early morning visit to a cancer research centre in Melbourne on Tuesday so that he could justify billing taxpayers to be in the city for a "private function" the night before.

Mr Abbott made the admission at the regular meeting of Liberal and Nationals MPs after being taken to task by one his own senators for turning up an hour late.

Several MPs told Fairfax Media that the Prime Minister described the private function as a "fund-raiser" to the party room.

The issue came to a head when LNP senator Ian Macdonald, who has been a frequent critic of his own side since he was demoted from the frontbench after the election, told Mr Abbott his priority should have been the regular party room meeting, which is held every Tuesday morning when Parliament is sitting.

But Senator Macdonald was swiftly rebuked by colleagues including backbencher Ewen Jones, who said Senator Macdonald's constant criticism of his own team had "overstepped the mark".

"I have the highest regard for Ian as a man but the direction he has taken is unfortunate," Mr Jones said.

Several government sources told Fairfax Media they were stunned to hear the Prime Minister respond to Senator Macdonald's complaint by saying he had to schedule an official function on Tuesday morning so he could justify being in Melbourne for a fund-raiser the night before under entitlements.

Mr Abbott visited the Peter MacCallum Cancer Centre and told a news conference he was there to talk about the proposed Medical Research Future Fund.

He made no new announcements but reiterated his government's commitment to science and research.

The government wants to pay for the fund with some of the proceeds from the proposed $7 GP fee, which has been blocked in the Senate by Labor, the Palmer United Party and the Greens.

The Prime Minister's office did not deny Mr Abbott had made a fund-raising visit to Melbourne. A spokeswoman for Mr Abbott said: "The Prime Minister attended a private function in Melbourne [on Monday] night. All prime-ministerial travel is undertaken within entitlement.

"Whenever the Prime Minister travels he maximises his visits by ensuring he participates in community events, business visits and local media."

The spokeswoman confirmed the Prime Minister "ran a little late" to the joint party room meeting because his visit in Melbourne ran "over time".

She said the Prime Minister was a "passionate supporter" of medical research and "makes no apologies for his visit".

Mr Jones, who has been in Parliament for about four years, said the meeting was the first he could recall the Prime Minister being late for "in all my time here".

Abbott flies to Melbourne in the evening for a Liberal Party fundraiser, ends up billing the public for the expenses, needs to justify it so he visits a hospital early the next morning as a cover.
Abbott ends up being late for a regular Liberal Party meeting, fellow fascist is pissed that Abbott made him wait more than an hour and spills the beans to the media. Gets demoted.

Adults in charge, Labor waste etc

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