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Welcome to the US Politics thread, your one stop shop for seeing people who don't have the power to support something fight with people who don't have the power to oppose it.

It's August, so Congress in recess. What this means is you'll see some wacky red meat base riling, empty "think pieces" and "Is X considering running?" columns to fill print space, and even less done then normally.

Notable things:

ACA: Halbig decision has been filed for the SCOTUS. So far 6 states have declared their use of the federal exchange is the state exchange so as not to lose the subsidies. The legal argument is poor, but the political argument is worse; since they don't want to be seen crowing as taking away subsidies the GOP is trying to push a narrative that the Dems never meant to give the subsidies anyways, and it is their fault your prices are going to skyrocket. It's crap.

Wars: There are like 6 decent sized wars going on right now and we are firmly not involved in any of them. Will wonders never cease. Afghanistan drawdown continues on schedule. We are of course covertly loving around in a number of conflict zones because thats who we are, but at least we aren't going the Major Kong route.

VA: We needed 50 billion to fix it. The House gave us 17 billion. So the job won't get done and they still get to yell at the President and pretend they care.

Immigration reform: The House passed a bill written by Michelle Bachmann (Star Admiral, ret.) and Steve King (who wants to remind you never skip leg day) just so they'd have something to wave at the base. It's a bad comedy for a real problem

Border Crisis: 200+ judgeship vacant, underfunded for years, and seeing a huge influx in refugee kids due to a well intentioned but not well promoted 2008 law. President asked for 3.7 billion to fund it and to staff the open positions. Senate gave him 1.5 billion, which was cut to less than 600 million by the House, which also didn't fill the judges and shot a bunch of holes at what little of an immigration policy we have left functioning. Then they went on vacation without going to conference, so really nothing went to solve the problem

Ebola: Has absolutely nothing to do with us, but the CDC (which already had infected people here for treatment) brought in 2 more, under the mentality that its a lethal threat and ignorance makes a poor shield. People are freaking out. Reminder that ebola has killed less than 5000 people total in all of human history, and one pass of the flu killed 5% of the global population ~100 years ago. Yay priorities

Infrastructure: Falling apart. Cost of total repairs now estimated at over 3 trillion by ASCE

Drought: major drought is slamming California and other states. Pushing up food prices, the hacked up farm bill has reduced the ability of the Department of Agriculture to respond. Lotta people suffering

War on Drugs: more and more voices calling for legalization of marijuana. Which is nice but I'll believe it when it happens

Gay marriage: bans keeps getting struck down. Headed for the SCOTUS fast. Open question is how much support will remain for the rest of the equality push (eg ENDA) after it is legalized nation wide and how long the political coalition will hold together.

Suing the President: To raise funds for the midterms and try to head off the yutzes, Boehner has filed suit against the President for illegal use of executive orders. Obama has used fewer Executive orders than other presidents in recent memory, and the day they voted to sue him they also passed a resolution demanding he use executive orders to address the border crisis. They don't have standing, but the past few years have shown the courts are now so polarized they can just shop it around to find a republican judge

Benghazi: House committee concluded it was nothing. Other house committees continue investigations.

Food: Prices are up, and growing at a faster rate than the average of the rest of the economy. This isn't inflation, because its a subset of goods with specific causes driving up costs, but still, its squeezing people on something they can't really budge.

Here's your moment of zen:

Yeah, not as good as the last one, sorry

And on a "heads up" note someone should probably take over next month at least until November (Joementum?). I've been getting later and later with these and while I like it, I'm just getting swamped. Elections are picking up and I'm attached to 2 campaigns and a precinct captain so my after work free time is becoming more limited, and my at work time that I've had to phone post was due to the fact I'd mainly automated my job. But they were so happy about that they had me automate a few others and have now bumped me to another project. On a related note if you want to volunteer for any Indiana campaigns I might be able to put you in touch.

Fried Chicken fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Aug 6, 2014

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Nintendo Kid posted:

Are there any minor elections still going for late primaries?

Well the Kansas and Michigan ones were tonight.

# ¿ Aug 6, 2014 05:11

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Bizarro Watt posted:

Is there more information on this?

I'm mainly going from speeches and press releases by Vilsack and the Farm Bureau. They are warning of big problems. But the Crop Insurance Program, Livestock Indemnity Program, Livestock Forage Program, Disaster Energy Efficiency Program, and the like all got expanded. I think they are raising warning signs because the money is running out faster than anyone anticipated, even with it being expanded. From 2011-2014 those programs were cut or non functioning, so when this passed they made them retroactive to cover things like the herds of cattle wiped out in the polar vortex. Also, this bill tied the payments to market prices rather than a rate determined by the USDA. So while more money was available, a lot of it went to past disasters, and due to the climb in food prices they are paying out more for what they are covering. They were definitely limited the past 3 years, I think they are trying to get attention early now, and try and get ahead of the problem this time around

Mayor Dave posted:

I'm assuming this is a reference to the 8 billion in cuts to food assistance programs. Food gets more expensive, so food stamps will cover even less food and there's nothing the USDA can do about it under the bill this year.

This is another aspect of it. Food stamps don't go very far (here is a very depressing story about food shopping these days) and prices are rising. Disasters spike them event more.

Production subsidies are poo poo, and have a whole host of ripple effects that crowd out small producers, raise prices on unsubsidized food stuffs (less produced because it isn't subsidized), health effects, and the like. Being the insurer of last resort is different, that's been part of the government's job for a long time now.

Anyways, have a chart showing price climbs

# ¿ Aug 6, 2014 13:34

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AreWeDrunkYet posted:

This is part of why you see a bunch of old white people complaining about runaway inflation and that damned Obozo hiding the actual numbers.

That, and the lack of inflation has kept rates low, which hurts the people who see a large share of their income in the form of interest (basically the 0.01% or higher) so there has been a big push by them on the narrative of "secret inflation! Raise rates now!" And there is a whole wing of economists who have been predicting imminent and nonexistent inflation since January 20th 2009 so they are pushing "secret inflation! Cut taxes and raise rates now!". The echo chambers been pushing it, think tanks have put out "projections" pushing it, bullshit sites like ShadowStats have popped up to "expose" it, and if you marinate in the daytime tv news or the right wing echo chamber the "inflation!" Bell keeps getting rung.

I'll at least credit the Austrian school with changing how they defined inflation so their assertion of "inflation (by our definition) is happening" is true, when CNBC talks inflation it is nothing but poo poo

# ¿ Aug 6, 2014 14:33

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ReindeerF posted:

More like Warren G's Hardon.

So it has become a thing for rich American couples to film their weddings with drones. Drones and weddings, huh? Insert your own hosed up gallows humor joke here.

# ¿ Aug 6, 2014 15:41

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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

So this came across my radar this morning. You know how Hobby Lobby wanted to refuse certain types of birth control? This is an even crazier case.

Pharmacists refuse to fill prescriptions for Plan B and Ella and now Alliance Defending Freedom is taking the case to Washington because �No one should be forced to choose between their deepest religious convictions and their profession,�

http://www.alliancedefendingfreedom.org/News/PRDetail/9239

Wait this is actually a case? The plaintiffs win, slam dunk. It won't even be a 5-4 decision. LONG long legal precedent for letting doctors and pharmacists issue referrals rather than doing procedures on religious grounds, and being protected from lawsuits that follow from the negative consequences of them doing so.

I remember first learning about abortion as a kid because of a case like this in the 90s. A woman was in a wreck, they discovered in the treatment she was pregnant, she wanted an abortion but the catholic hospital she was at wouldn't do it and since she was in intensive care she couldn't be transferred. Ended up having to carry it to term because by the time she was cleared to be moved it was too far along.

# ¿ Aug 6, 2014 16:53

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Joementum posted:

I just don't really find anything alarming about using an RV toy to take wedding pictures.

There isn't, but I was hoping we'd get some dark humor from the thread. Last week they were posting from the Star Wars - 9/11, I figured we'd see something on that level of twisted.

And I don't thing quibbling over calling civil models drones will do much. No one conflated army jeeps with machine guns with regular jeeps, or a F-16 with a 747 because both are planes

# ¿ Aug 6, 2014 17:06

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computer parts posted:

It's funny though because there's a lot of hysteria about drones that was redirected* as "scary new military tech"* rather than "US military killing people".

*Assuming that wasn't the feeling from the start.

Man, almost all of it was "scary new thing!" Which it isn't, it's a moderate improvement of existing technology, but we've done that round and round in this thread before

# ¿ Aug 6, 2014 17:13

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Samurai Sanders posted:

Sometimes I think 90% of religion in America is about vaginas in one way or another.

There is a good case to be made that the split between democrat/republican is all tied up in views on sex and what is acceptable. Which is how you get millennials who talk the GOP agenda points and identify as Dems and vote straight ticket Democrat. There was some polling back in the Clinton years where they polled on sexual opinions and practices along with political leanings (because of the Lewinsky scandal) and found a huge correlation. The rise of the internet has thrown even more behind that (eg one of the linking triggers was "viewed "pornography", with the internet everyone has seen porn these days)

# ¿ Aug 6, 2014 17:24

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GOP Plots Offensive on Labor

quote:

GOP lawmakers are planning to attack the National Labor Relations Board if they take back the Senate this fall.

With majorities in the House and Senate, Republicans say they would push back against NLRB rules that have made it easier for unions to speed up their elections and organize multiple departments within a single company, among other things.

Republicans are making their stance clear in advance of the midterm elections, hoping it will help draw out the GOP base.

And Sen. Lamar Alexander (Tenn.), the top Republican on the Senate Labor Committee, is using the issue as part of his campaign theme ahead of his Thursday primary.

�The Tennesseans I talk with are tired of Washington bureaucrats telling them how to live their lives and run their businesses,� Alexander said. �The NLRB is pursuing some of the most intrusive and misguided policies under this administration.�

When Congress returns from recess, Alexander said he plans to introduce a bill that would overhaul the NLRB and �make it more of an umpire than an advocate.�

Even with a Senate majority, Republicans are unlikely to be able to move major legislation through a narrowly divided Senate.

But they may not need to pass legislation in order to tinker with the NLRB, according to Michael Lotito, an employment and labor attorney and co-chairman of the conservative Workplace Policy Institute.

Lotito says Republicans could also use the appropriations process to slow down the NLRB, even if President Obama tries to block their legislation.

�So you could have an appropriations rider that could prohibit the NLRB from attempting to implement its ambush election proposal,� Lotito explained.

Backers of the NLRB aren�t too worried about the GOP chest-thumping.

�Obviously, what the NLRB has to do is continue to do the business in front of it,� said Wilma Liebman, a former NLRB chairman who is a Democrat. �The board is no stranger to controversy or political opposition, so they know how to deal with it.�

Lawrence Mishel, president of the liberal Economic Policy Institute, said he would expect Senate Republicans to �harass� the NLRB much in the same way that House Republicans do now, if the party gains control of the Senate in November.

He also suggested it will be difficult for Obama to win confirmation of new board members if the Senate goes Republican. [Edit: No poo poo]

�I think what they really want to do is shut down the inner workings of the NLRB and keep them from making rulings and doing their job,� Mishel said.

Democratic board member Nancy J. Schiffer�s term expires in mid-December, and a GOP-controlled Senate would likely block any replacement Obama nominates, giving Republicans on the labor board more sway to influence decisions made after her term expires.

Schiffer�s exit would leave the board with two Republican appointees and two Democratic appointees.

The board is in the process of reissuing hundreds of decisions invalidated by a Supreme Court ruling. The Supreme Court ruled that Obama did not have the power to make recess appointments to the NLRB, meaning decisions issued by the board that included the recess appointees were also invalidated.

Senate Democrats later changed the upper chamber�s filibuster rules, and new members of the NLRB were confirmed.

If Republicans have a Senate majority in January, the NLRB�s current members would only have between now and the end of the year to review those cases, said Marshall Babson, a former Democrat board member of the NLRB.

Republicans hope to turn back several NLRB rules if they win the majority.

One example is a rule, which must still be finalized, that speeds up union elections to occur as little as 10 days after a petition is filed. Business groups call it the �ambush election� rule and say it would give employers too little time to discuss the decision to unionize with their workers.

The NLRB�s Democrats say the rule is aimed at preventing companies from intimidating employees against joining a union.

It is one of the NLRB�s most controversial rules and one of the first things Republicans say they would look to strike down if they gain control of the Senate.

�I think there�s a lot of interest in pushing back on these things,� said a Republican aide on the Senate Labor Committee. �If they finalize the ambush election rule, there would be pushback here in the Senate on that.�

Republicans and business groups have also expressed disappointment with recent NLRB decisions to allow employees to organize multiple �micro-unions� within a single company.

Just last month, the NLRB ruled a group of cosmetics and fragrance workers at a Macy�s store in Massachusetts could organize, even without the consent of the rest of the store�s employees.

This would create the potential for employees to negotiate with multiple collective bargaining units represented by different unions, labor experts say.

Republicans have called it labor�s version of �gerrymandering,� because it allows unions to pick the employees who are most likely to say yes and ignore the others.

The NLRB laid the groundwork for such decisions in a 2011 case known as Specialty Healthcare, in which the NLRB ruled that a group of nurse assistants could form their own union without including other employees at the company.

�We would want to look at legislation to make sure bargaining units are appropriately sized in response to the NLRB�s micro-union decision,� the Republican aide said.

Another issue Senate Republicans say they would look at is the NLRB�s new joint employer standard, which allows franchise employees to sue the corporate owners of a company in addition to their franchise bosses.

Republicans were critical of the NLRB�s decision last week to allow this at McDonald�s. They say franchises should be treated as independent companies.

�The joint employer standard is something the Senate would want to push back against as well,� the aide said.

I've been talking the McDonalds thing for the past week, no surprise it has become a big thing in the campaigns

But yeah, all the poo poo they've been doing in the states, spiking unemployment and slowing job growth in their "models" like Wisconsin and Kansas? Coming to you on a federal level

# ¿ Aug 6, 2014 17:31

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Samurai Sanders posted:

Yeah, but even beyond that, it seems to be about what sex is acceptable for women, not just in general.

Yeah, like I said there were a suite of questions. Porn was just one of them. The conservative liberal split is really along issues if how you view sex, much more than role if government, economics, or anything else

# ¿ Aug 6, 2014 17:34

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Badera posted:

From that Santorum article:

http://www.catholicnewworld.com/cnwonline/2012/1021/cardinal.aspx

I mean...just...what?

I'm pretty ok with tossing child rapists in jail, no matter what their religious title is. So yeah, if a cardinal was involved in the act or the coverup, let them spend all their days in the hoscow

# ¿ Aug 6, 2014 18:37

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So we are almost out of money to fight wildfires

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/money-allocated-suppressing-fires-run-out

Cool, not like we are in the middle if a huge multistate drought or anything that would leave a lot if dry, flammable material around. Everything is awesome

# ¿ Aug 6, 2014 20:16

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El Scotch posted:

I'm surprised the thread title wasn't Debate & Discussion: We tortured some folks � US Politics August - The White Man's Burden

Too close to the TVTropes name

Also I was 3 pages behind when I made the thread, didn't bother to catch up and take suggestions

# ¿ Aug 6, 2014 21:23

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Shageletic posted:

I'll be honest its mostly for the funny gifs. He's a shithead regarding race?

He had a very long back and forth with TNC that left him looking, charitably, extremely awkward and clumsy on the topic. More honestly, he hasn't examined his views and actions overly much and it shows, he tries to make what he thinks are good points and comes off as your stereotypical white suburban liberal who knows how to cure what ails the black community if only they would heed his wisdom.

He isn't typical republican on race, or "but the iq tests! Read the bell curve!" Like Andrew Sullivan is. But he definitely needs to get through that there is a time to speak and a time to listen, and sometimes the best support you can give is extoll a piece by someone who lives the topic.

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# ¿ Aug 6, 2014 21:31

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A Winner is Jew posted:

Too busy attending fundraisers and playing golf I take it?

Literally, yes. I was helping organize a golfing fundraiser for a local thing.

Then I did some WoW for an hour. Stupid mount still won't drop.

# ¿ Aug 6, 2014 21:32

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zoux posted:

They do some good work on some foreign politics but they are just so neo-liberal it hurts.

Was it then that did the story attacking Chavez for creating universal health care instead of building the world's tallest building like Qatar did?

# ¿ Aug 6, 2014 21:38

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Samurai Sanders posted:

While cycling home I saw people with signs reading "IMPEACH OBAMA" and "REMEMBER THE SACRIFICED 17" or something (I don't remember the exact language of the second one). Any idea what that could be a reference to? Is it Benghazi? Is that a stupid question?

The Seal Team 6 crash

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Chinook_shootdown_in_Afghanistan

15 from the team that killed Bin laden, 2 from another unit. Right wing belief is Obama had them killed to cover up something to do with the raid (specifically that Obama had nothing to do with the raid because he is a secret Muslim and ally of Bin Laden, they had to force his hand, but they are always hazy on the details of why its an inside job)

# ¿ Aug 7, 2014 05:05

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The GOP is struggling in the War on Whites, so here is Reince Priebus talking up their Uber allies

# ¿ Aug 7, 2014 17:42

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Hey, want a reason to drink? Telling white people the justice system is racist makes them like it more

# ¿ Aug 7, 2014 19:15

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And the one about whites supporting affirmative action when it is pointed out that on neutral tests Asian Americans out perform them.

# ¿ Aug 7, 2014 19:50

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Ballz posted:

This is behind a paywall, FYI

You aren't missing anything of note. It's the usual vapid cheerleading. I just really wanted to do that pun

# ¿ Aug 7, 2014 20:06

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So Obama looks to be dropping humanitarian supplies in Iraq within hours

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...a5c4_story.html

Brief summary: ISIS, as part of its pogrom against any group but theirs has hounded the Yazidis out if their city of Dohuk. 130,000 fled north to Kurd controlled regions, suffering as they go. But another 40,000 fled to Mount Sinjar, where ISIS now has them trapped without food and water, and are letting the elements do their killing for them.

The proposed plan is to airdrop supplies to the refugees, and possibly enact military airstrikes against other parts if ISIS. Why they wouldn't hit the forces that have the people trapped is unclear to me. I guess the plan is make it easier for them to survive, and get the hard to target ISIS groups to fall back to cover what we were able to target and blow up?

Situation is really hosed up.

# ¿ Aug 7, 2014 21:00

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In more upbeat news, Renisha McBride's murderer got convicted of 2nd degree murder

# ¿ Aug 7, 2014 21:02

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Sen John Walsh is dropping out if the Montana race http://m.billingsgazette.com/walsh-drops-out-of-u-s-senate-race/article_44061fbc-fd60-583b-bc9b-61f41ebb49e0.html?mobile_touch=true

# ¿ Aug 7, 2014 21:11

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1stGear posted:

Won't ISIS just charge in and start shooting up the place to keep the refugees from getting to the supplies?

I don't know.

Of course, the upside of our insane military budget is that if we wanted to we could cover that place with more supplies than they could ever hope to remove

# ¿ Aug 7, 2014 21:16

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ISIS and Kurds reporting airstrikes, pentagon denying it was them

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/08/08/world/middleeast/obama-weighs-military-strikes-to-aid-trapped-iraqis-officials-say.html?referrer=

Humanitarian aid is being deployed, line is the fighter jets are there to protect the cargo planes

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# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 00:43

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Joementum posted:

Yeah, for whatever reason the White House website didn't carry it live, despite saying they would. Obama basically confirmed that he'd authorized bombing, especially if ISIS moves on Erbil, where American consular officials are present, despite an earlier Pentagon statement that no such authorization had been made.

The Pentagon statement was that we hadn't made the strikes that were being reported, not on authorization. So not necessarily in conflict.

the AUMF doesn't really stretch this far though, at least by plain reading. gently caress, I hope this stays limited to us dropping food and water, but it won't.

# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 02:53

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US Military dropped 5,300 gallons of drinking water and 8,000 MREs from 1 C-17 and 2 C-130s, with 2 F/A-18s flying escort.

Beats dropping bombs

# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 03:18

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At 645 AM edt we conducted an airstrikes on an ISIS artillery position near Erbil

# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 15:49

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Reminder that the Onion was so loving prescient about the Bush years it's absolutely terrifying. We've all seen the inauguration one, but that wasn't their only hit

This War Will Destabilize The Entire Mideast Region And Set Off A Global Shockwave Of Anti-Americanism

# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 16:15

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A Winner is Jew posted:

~Yet~.

Don't forget that OBL was helping the Taliban do the same FYGM power grab thing in Afghanistan until his allies let him have an autonomous region to launch his numerous attacks from against the US.

That, and the rage from it has spread to other regions and radicalized people there. The Boston marathon bombing didn't happen in a vacuum, they were pissed about the wars

# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 17:40

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zoux posted:

Let's play alt history prognostication and ask what would've happened if we'd never had the Iraq War? Would Saddam still be in power today? Would the country be gripped in a civil war ala Syria as Arab Spring-inspired rebels warred with Iraqi military? Would the Arab Spring even have happened?

Well, the organizations that kicked off all these revolutions (prior to them being taken over by nutbars) were the organizations that were formed protesting the Iraq war. So no war means no Egyptian revolution and the like, at least on the same timescale because without a group to organize the sitins, protests, bring the unions on board, etc you'd just have a lot of undirected displeasure.

The droughts and price spike probably still would have happened, unless there is a case for the Iraq war triggering Wall Street malfeasance I'm unaware of. So you'd have seen something. But I don't know if it would have been the government toppling we've seen without a politically organized core. And without that core, I don't see organized violence taking off because the state response would be more diffused (no network to target) and the radicals wouldn't have a starting point of groups to take over and a more diffused response makes it more difficult to rally reactionary violence against.

Plus the insurgents wouldn't have a decades worth if experience in fighting an army to bring to these fights.

# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 17:50

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SquadronROE posted:

Do the cats usually have nine tails?

No no no that's the democrats who do that. Remember their misogyny in 2000? They followed Clinton with "Welcome to a world called Gor(e)"

# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 17:52

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Joementum posted:

The RNC has just officially voted to select Cleveland as the site of the 2016 RNC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R8EDfVn738

The best part of the video is definitely, "in 2012 a 13% swing in Cuyahoga County would have turned Ohio RED". Oh, is that all then?

Well that's nothing, a few years ago they realized that if they could keep 13% of the population from voting, the whole country would swing red

# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 18:05

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Those f-18s that bombed Iraq were launched from the USS Bush

God that's just so loving apt

# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 18:10

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Chantilly Say posted:

Remind me why we started naming ships after people who aren't even dead yet?

Because they wanted to name an aircraft carrier after Reagan

# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 18:23

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Joementum posted:

I'm cross posting this from the 2014 thread because it's too good not to. You should read the letters to Tennessee newspaper editors from the Democratic nominee for Governor.

They include the line, "I have enough money to do me the rest of my life and enough income to do me the rest of my life, so I don't need to steel form you and If I get elected I will take my salary and buy hugh deers for all our Wild Life Areas. And will will have hog hunting again"

There's also a campaign promise to electrocute the current Governor.

This is the guy who only ran because otherwise under some new law the state was going to take his pet raccoon away from him, right?

Hey, "I want to keep my beloved pet" is better motivation than any of the reasons from the other assholes

# ¿ Aug 8, 2014 19:55

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SquadronROE posted:

So they're literally protesting increased diversity. Lovely people.

It's ole Miss. They literally rioted in protest when Obama was re-elected

# ¿ Aug 9, 2014 17:22

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PuTTY riot posted:

Riot isn't really an accurate description, a number of news outlets retracted the word 'riot'

Over 400 people screaming racial slurs, fighting, throwing rocks at cars, and setting things on fire.

If that isn't a riot, what is?

Oh wait, its white people so it is just "unrest", it was the blacks who were going to riot when Romney won

# ¿ Aug 9, 2014 17:38

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